Wymsey Posted 25 August 2017 Share Posted 25 August 2017 For sure, he should do his talking on the pitch. Like he did last time at Old Trafford, he probably needs to score a great goal get his confidence back up and then that will give Shakespeare food for thought. The club doesn't owe him anything. Like Mahrez, he needs to keep focused on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 25 August 2017 Share Posted 25 August 2017 5 hours ago, cc_star said: Or how about Okazaki as sub, with Gray starting behind Vardy Surely not, that spot behind Vardy is already the most competitive one in the squad without playing Gray out of position there as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 25 August 2017 Share Posted 25 August 2017 Loan out for the season with recall available in Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted 25 August 2017 Share Posted 25 August 2017 4 hours ago, HankMarvin said: I think his worry is Mahrez dropped form last year and he still didn't really get a sniff. Agree - but Shakey played Riyad (however bad) because he knew that he might, just might produce a moment of brilliance which could get us 3 points. Pretty sure that he knew Riyad could do it - as he's obviously witnessed it before - buy Gray was a bit more of a gamble. Things are a bit less mad this year, so I think Gray will probably have some decent playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 25 August 2017 Share Posted 25 August 2017 grey needs to do some work - to have more tricks that cutting in and shooting. needs to work on decision making... early crosses... and defending. If he spent as much time on that as phoning his agent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 25 August 2017 Share Posted 25 August 2017 The problem is he's the only other real option as a winger we have, if both our curent wingers got injured he'd replace one but who would replace the other . Only leaves Musa or perhaps Nacho . So although he's not pulling up trees he should at least be coming on for more time and not always for the same player he could replace either of the wingers keeping them fresher. Whilst getting game time every match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 25 August 2017 Share Posted 25 August 2017 Loan swap with jordon ibe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 Spuds incoming on the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 2 minutes ago, sylofox said: Spuds incoming on the cards. Strange one - if it happens would expect them to be chasing chillers next summer. Alli looks like a miserable sod too so perhaps poch knows how to handle his personality ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 He has even less chance of playing at spurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 4 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said: He has even less chance of playing at spurs! I think he would play more there. They seem to have a lot more trust in young players and they have more games. He would improve massively under Pochettino. I wouldn't be surprised if Shakespeare limited him to 5-10 minutes off the bench this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/demarai-gray/club-after-summer-transfer-window Now Evens with Paddy Power to join Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 I also think Spuds will be better for his career, but I don't see us getting rid with one week to go and leaving Musa as our first (only) backup winger.. Zero mention of any Spurs link on Twitter or the fighting cock atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 IF Gray does leave Grosicki seems like he could be a good alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico1958 Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 1 hour ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: IF Gray does leave Grosicki seems like he could be a good alternative. Spurs and Grosicki might be a good shout but Hull doing well under Slutsky Hull more likely to get Musa I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 50 minutes ago, Chico1958 said: Spurs and Grosicki might be a good shout but Hull doing well under Slutsky Hull more likely to get Musa I think IMO he will go to Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 3 hours ago, themightyfin said: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/demarai-gray/club-after-summer-transfer-window Now Evens with Paddy Power to join Spurs Those prices mean nothing without Leicester being on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 52 minutes ago, Gerard said: Those prices mean nothing without Leicester being on that list. It means hes 6 times more likely to goto Spurs than Bournemouth according to PP. And he's 6-4 with the same firm to stay if you ring them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 1 minute ago, themightyfin said: It means hes 6 times more likely to goto Spurs than Bournemouth according to PP. And he's 6-4 with the same firm to stay if you ring them Well if you can get 6/4 to stay there is some context and that sounds an amazing price. The bookies think Gray is more likely to be a Tottenham player than a Leicester player next week? That sounds unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico1958 Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 1 hour ago, Johnthefoxrayner said: IMO he will go to Bournemouth. Good shout........ Stands more chance of first team football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 56 minutes ago, Gerard said: Well if you can get 6/4 to stay there is some context and that sounds an amazing price. The bookies think Gray is more likely to be a Tottenham player than a Leicester player next week? That sounds unbelievable. Mate I don't make the odds! Hope he stays though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 1 hour ago, Gerard said: Well if you can get 6/4 to stay there is some context and that sounds an amazing price. The bookies think Gray is more likely to be a Tottenham player than a Leicester player next week? That sounds unbelievable. They do on PP according to fin. Means you can guarantee money backing him to stay on PP and leave on skybet. Approx 1/2 to stay though Spurs odds are coming in all the time over the past 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 1 hour ago, Gerard said: Well if you can get 6/4 to stay there is some context and that sounds an amazing price. The bookies think Gray is more likely to be a Tottenham player than a Leicester player next week? That sounds unbelievable. No. People who have bet at bookies think Gray is more likely to be a Tottenham player than a Leicester player next week and the bookies have adjusted the odds accordingly. That is how bookmakers work. It's not magic, it's not inside information - it's pure and simple maths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonFox Posted 26 August 2017 Share Posted 26 August 2017 On 8/25/2017 at 05:49, Ric Flair said: I definitely think there's room for Gray to get 25-30 mins in games though either as a sub for Albrighton, Mahrez or Okazaki. The problem is we have about 30 strikers who needs games as well. 23 hours ago, Milo said: I think he's too good and too close to the first team to go out on loan - a bit like Chilwell. He's on the bench at the moment and will have to wait his turn to get into the team. He's next on the pitch if Riyad (or Albrighton) gets injured or drops in form, and will get plenty of games for us this year. No need to go elsewhere. Both good points. I've said before (oh no, am I starting to sound like Col?!) that he's in that twilight zone of being too good for U23s but not quite starting XI, and as a result, not playing much football. @Milo, totally like Chilly, Slim, and possibly Amartey (latter because of his versatility, and ability to over RB). @Ric Flair - I totally agree with you, he could be integrated into games more. Maybe we watch more critically, but I'm sure other managers seem to use subs more effectively. I guess, using subs is about tactically adapting to the in game situation, and we've only had two league games, and possibly v Brighton, you could argue he could have been brought on sooner, but I think the more mins were for (a) reward to the starters for playing well (b) to keep building match fitness, and (c) a reaction to the impact of the changes vs Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 27 August 2017 Share Posted 27 August 2017 21 hours ago, HoustonFox said: Both good points. I've said before (oh no, am I starting to sound like Col?!) that he's in that twilight zone of being too good for U23s but not quite starting XI, and as a result, not playing much football. @Milo, totally like Chilly, Slim, and possibly Amartey (latter because of his versatility, and ability to over RB). @Ric Flair - I totally agree with you, he could be integrated into games more. Maybe we watch more critically, but I'm sure other managers seem to use subs more effectively. I guess, using subs is about tactically adapting to the in game situation, and we've only had two league games, and possibly v Brighton, you could argue he could have been brought on sooner, but I think the more mins were for (a) reward to the starters for playing well (b) to keep building match fitness, and (c) a reaction to the impact of the changes vs Arsenal Good to see some actual analysis on Gray. In my mind it makes no sense selling him regardless of the offer. my thoughts are, if we sell Gray this summer and manage to keep Mahrez, come January or next summer Mahrez will again look for that big move. Yeah we have 70 mil of whatever but left without 2 decent players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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