Mahrez to .......................?

[the fox]

8 hours ago, ZeGuy said:

"Guys it's a ball, not a bomb."

This is actually too true! 

[urban.spaceman]

Best option for him and us is if he stays and does his best to shine this season. Commit to us for the next year with this season and the World Cup coming up and we'll get the fee we want. 

[the fox]

What gets under my skin is the fact that the management isn't trying to convince him to stay long term (not just one year) by building around him! You can't really expect him to spend another year playing along side Simpson, do you?

 

 

Just go bonkers and by a highly rated offensive RB! Don't care if he Costs £30 million, just pay it! £25-£30 million on a box to box and boudebouz or break the bank on ziyech. Just go buy them! If that convinces him to stay than everyone is gonna be a winner, if he leaves than at least we tried and the team is now better.

 

Was gonna post an analysis about the deference amartey makes along side mahrez but I didn't have the time. There where acres of space between simmo (who pretty much stays in the same line as the CBs) and amartey! Riyad pretty much loses 25-30 yards of space because simmo is so deep. People won't see how ridiculous it is until they rewatch the games and just keep an eye on our right side. Absolutely infuriating. Aghhh!!!

 

 

 

[Sly]

It doesn’t matter if his “agent” has agreed a deal in principle. He’s got 3 years left on his contract.

 

He’ll be here to line up against Arsenal. 

[EnglishOxide]

Riyads gonna stay.

 

I don't even think we will accept £50m tbh. Top has confirmed they haven't set a price.

 

It's gonna take about £60m.

[Redouane]

5 hours ago, justfoxes said:

We need to dig our feet it if Swansea rate and are holding out for £50m for Gylfi then Mahrez is definitely worth at least £50m this transfer lark has gone absolute bonkers £50m prices have gone ridiculous !!


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Exactly! If gylfi is worth 50m then Mahrez, former PFA player of the year, should be worth twice as much

[Guest Col city fan]

@Kitchandro is right

Just because half of FT thinks Mahrez is worth 50m, it don't mean he actually is.

It's a market economy (albeit, it's own crazy one) and if the top offers coming in are around 30 to 40 m, then that's the players current worth.

I don't think other teams neccessarily think Riyad is as good as we do...based on last season.

It's looking increasingly like he'll stay OR City will accept around 30 m in the end.

[WigstonWanderer]

5 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

@Kitchandro is right

Just because half of FT thinks Mahrez is worth 50m, it don't mean he actually is.

It's a market economy (albeit, it's own crazy one) and if the top offers coming in are around 30 to 40 m, then that's the players current worth.

I don't think other teams neccessarily think Riyad is as good as we do...based on last season.

It's looking increasingly like he'll stay OR City will accept around 30 m in the end.

Of course you're right, his market value is what anyone is prepared to pay. However he is worth much more to us as he is proven in our setup, and we simply couldn't attract a player of that caliber to replace him.

 

I hope he stays at least till Jan, plays out of his skin, and gets his move at a price acceptable to us.

[Bluetintedspecs]

2 hours ago, Col city fan said:

@Kitchandro is right

Just because half of FT thinks Mahrez is worth 50m, it don't mean he actually is.

It's a market economy (albeit, it's own crazy one) and if the top offers coming in are around 30 to 40 m, then that's the players current worth.

I don't think other teams neccessarily think Riyad is as good as we do...based on last season.

It's looking increasingly like he'll stay OR City will accept around 30 m in the end.

Ok I will put it another way and I will probably upset quite a few on here bud.

Firstly I will say I am delighted Swansea are standing so firm and I hope our interest in Gylfi is over, he is not worth 50 mil even in this inflated market place!

I think he is a very good player yet if you directly compare him and Riyad at his 15/16 best then Riyad is worth 80 mil if Gylfi is worth 50. 

Only 1 year into a 4 year contract we hold ALL the aces and I fully expect our owiners to make the same stance as Peace did over that shite Berahino!

Riyad and his agent have royally fvcked up and life can be tough sometimes.

Plain and simple if noone comes in with 50 + MIL we want then he will have to roll his sleeves up and perform to get himself on top of lists again!

We are in the box seat and like I say,purely my opinion re Gylfi,I think he will flop(in comparison to hype and price tag) away from Swansea at a bigger club, time will tell!

[Adster]

6 hours ago, the fox said:

What gets under my skin is the fact that the management isn't trying to convince him to stay long term (not just one year) by building around him! You can't really expect him to spend another year playing along side Simpson, do you?

 

 

Just go bonkers and by a highly rated offensive RB! Don't care if he Costs £30 million, just pay it! £25-£30 million on a box to box and boudebouz or break the bank on ziyech. Just go buy them! If that convinces him to stay than everyone is gonna be a winner, if he leaves than at least we tried and the team is now better.

 

Was gonna post an analysis about the deference amartey makes along side mahrez but I didn't have the time. There where acres of space between simmo (who pretty much stays in the same line as the CBs) and amartey! Riyad pretty much loses 25-30 yards of space because simmo is so deep. People won't see how ridiculous it is until they rewatch the games and just keep an eye on our right side. Absolutely infuriating. Aghhh!!!

 

 

 

What an absolute load of bollocks that really is.

 

A) Yeah, replacing Simpson with a highly offensive RB is really gonna help the side isn't it? Simpson already has to defend a whole flank by himself because Mahrez doesn't help him. So adding a really attacking RB will make our right side the easiest route of entry to go for our opponent. Don't you remember when we had De Laet and Mahrez down the right? We conceded goals left right and centre, especially down the right hand side. 

 

B) you don't just "go out and but" a player for 30m, just to keep a player happy. This is completely flawed logic. You really think just because we buy a right back, Mahrez will be like "Yeah I've got someone who helps me in attack now, where's the contract extension!"? It really doesn't work like that in the real world. It might do on your football manager game, but not here. 

 

Due to Mahrezs inability to defend Simmo is a must there at the moment, because he can actually defend. 

[VLC86]

9 hours ago, justfoxes said:

We need to dig our feet it if Swansea rate and are holding out for £50m for Gylfi then Mahrez is definitely worth at least £50m this transfer lark has gone absolute bonkers £50m prices have gone ridiculous !!


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Slight difference is Gylfi has kept quiet, Riyad wants to go which will impact the fee.

[justfoxes]

[mention=11338]Kitchandro[/mention] is right
Just because half of FT thinks Mahrez is worth 50m, it don't mean he actually is.
It's a market economy (albeit, it's own crazy one) and if the top offers coming in are around 30 to 40 m, then that's the players current worth.
I don't think other teams neccessarily think Riyad is as good as we do...based on last season.
It's looking increasingly like he'll stay OR City will accept around 30 m in the end.

Exactly a few years ago we'd be valuing Mahrez probably around the £25-30m range but the elite clubs who think that Money is no problem have hyper extended values of players once thought to be of lower value !

It's absolutely absurd to that prices have gone sky high and could eventually come full circle and bite some of these clubs on the preverbial "ARSE !"

But as a Leicester fan of many years seeing our club put in multi multi million pound bids in for players where previously we were priced out of the market and could never afford shows how far we've come and how ambitious our owners are, So if we want to value Mahrez at £50m we are right to do so !!



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[J.Lisemore]

27 million for our Riyad  I'd just tell Roma to leave it, embarrassing themselves and can't pay what he's worth.  

[whoareyaaa]

The club/owners aint daft, these type of fees and players don't come around every season and we have every right to hold out for the price we want this will be the biggest profit the club would have ever made and have every right to hold out for what they want, if the player was that bothered he should have gone last season.

 

 

[dayday]

55 minutes ago, Adster said:

What an absolute load of bollocks that really is.

 

A) Yeah, replacing Simpson with a highly offensive RB is really gonna help the side isn't it? Simpson already has to defend a whole flank by himself because Mahrez doesn't help him. So adding a really attacking RB will make our right side the easiest route of entry to go for our opponent. Don't you remember when we had De Laet and Mahrez down the right? We conceded goals left right and centre, especially down the right hand side. 

 

B) you don't just "go out and but" a player for 30m, just to keep a player happy. This is completely flawed logic. You really think just because we buy a right back, Mahrez will be like "Yeah I've got someone who helps me in attack now, where's the contract extension!"? It really doesn't work like that in the real world. It might do on your football manager game, but not here. 

 

Due to Mahrezs inability to defend Simmo is a must there at the moment, because he can actually defend. 

I can see where the fox is coming from but I think your right.

 

As for more help for Riyad, I think Iheanacho could be key, We all know Mahrez gets doubled up on as he is really our only genuine threat, with Iheanacho at 10 ,I feel defenders will be more wary of over marking Mahrez, as Iheanacho offers something we don't have pace and power and the ability to beat players.

 

 

[1972 Fox]

8 hours ago, Sly said:

It doesn’t matter if his “agent” has agreed a deal in principle. He’s got 3 years left on his contract.

 

He’ll be here to line up against Arsenal. 

His head has already been turned by Arsenal and Wenger is more than likely to unsettle him/us further before 11th August, so I don't see him lining up against them if he is still here.

 

If it was any other opposition yes but Shakey is in a difficult position with this one.

[OriginalRobboFOX]

I don't think on last years form he's "worth" £50m but in today's overinflated marketplace he's definitely "worth" £50m

[mozartfox]

9 hours ago, The whole world smiles said:

Roma just sold Mohamed Salah for 36 million and our now trying to buy Mahrez who is a similar age and more highly regarded for 20 million and then 27 million.

 

They either think we are fookin stupid or they don't actually want to sign him just want to show their fans they are making Moves for top players.

I think it has already been said but Rudkin should tell Roma to stop wasting our and their time with this ridiculous bids..  They will never pay the sort of fee we 'should' be looking for, so I think they are not seriously in this debacle. Just leaves the Arse', who again are taking the piss out of us and disturbing our pre-season. Hardly surprising as we are their first opponents!

[UniFox21]

9 hours ago, the fox said:

What gets under my skin is the fact that the management isn't trying to convince him to stay long term (not just one year) by building around him! You can't really expect him to spend another year playing along side Simpson, do you?

 

 

Just go bonkers and by a highly rated offensive RB! Don't care if he Costs £30 million, just pay it! £25-£30 million on a box to box and boudebouz or break the bank on ziyech. Just go buy them! If that convinces him to stay than everyone is gonna be a winner, if he leaves than at least we tried and the team is now better.

 

Was gonna post an analysis about the deference amartey makes along side mahrez but I didn't have the time. There where acres of space between simmo (who pretty much stays in the same line as the CBs) and amartey! Riyad pretty much loses 25-30 yards of space because simmo is so deep. People won't see how ridiculous it is until they rewatch the games and just keep an eye on our right side. Absolutely infuriating. Aghhh!!!

 

 

 

The amount of times in game Simmo has popped up anywhere along the back line to clear a ball is insane, off the top of my head I can name 2/3 times in last few games hed come storming across the pitch and clear at LB due to Fuchs being at top of the pitch. 

You can't just throw money at someone and change a team dynamic due to 1 player throwing his toys out the pram. Mahrez is a great player, but he's not bigger than Leicester.

If Roma were really interested they'd stop ****ing around with these low bids, its the premier league, everyone's price is high, and go in with a respectable bid and make us actually think about it. Surely they'd know we've been done over once with Kantes release fee, we wouldn't just lie down and take it again?

[Gerard]

6 hours ago, Col city fan said:

@Kitchandro is right

Just because half of FT thinks Mahrez is worth 50m, it don't mean he actually is.

It's a market economy (albeit, it's own crazy one) and if the top offers coming in are around 30 to 40 m, then that's the players current worth.

I don't think other teams neccessarily think Riyad is as good as we do...based on last season.

It's looking increasingly like he'll stay OR City will accept around 30 m in the end.

 

It doesn't matter what anyone tells US what he's worth. 

 

If we say we want £50m then we're perfectly in our rights not to sell just because the highest offer might be £30m.

 

In a perfect world we'd probably refuse £50m but with respect to Mahrez I'll think we'll reluctantly sell at any offer £40m+ but we'll be damned if Roma think they can throw their weight about with their £27m take it or leave it ultimatum.  The cretins 

[Gerard]

2 hours ago, Costock_Fox said:

Slight difference is Gylfi has kept quiet, Riyad wants to go which will impact the fee.

 

Only verbally.

 

Mahrez has said he wants to go and got his head down and performed pre season. Sigurdsson has said nothing but refused to go on Swansea's pre season tour of the USA as his "head wasn't right".

 

Action speaks louder than words as they say.

[Bluetintedspecs]

2 hours ago, Costock_Fox said:

Slight difference is Gylfi has kept quiet, Riyad wants to go which will impact the fee.

No we hold a 4 year contract, his statement has no impact whatsoever,we only have to sell if we receive an offer we deem acceptable!

[foxfanazer]

10 hours ago, the fox said:

What gets under my skin is the fact that the management isn't trying to convince him to stay long term (not just one year) by building around him! You can't really expect him to spend another year playing along side Simpson, do you?

 

 

Just go bonkers and by a highly rated offensive RB! Don't care if he Costs £30 million, just pay it! £25-£30 million on a box to box and boudebouz or break the bank on ziyech. Just go buy them! If that convinces him to stay than everyone is gonna be a winner, if he leaves than at least we tried and the team is now better.

 

Was gonna post an analysis about the deference amartey makes along side mahrez but I didn't have the time. There where acres of space between simmo (who pretty much stays in the same line as the CBs) and amartey! Riyad pretty much loses 25-30 yards of space because simmo is so deep. People won't see how ridiculous it is until they rewatch the games and just keep an eye on our right side. Absolutely infuriating. Aghhh!!!

 

 

 

Is that premier league winning right back Danny Simpson? 

 

Whats Bellerin won domestically? Couple of Fa cups? 

 

Who even is Roma's right back?

[volpeazzurro]

3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Is that premier league winning right back Danny Simpson? 

 

Whats Bellerin won domestically? Couple of Fa cups? 

 

Who even is Roma's right back?

Agreed. One of the reasons we play Simpson is because he is a defensive right back and covers for Marhez, that's the whole point. What's the point of an attacking overlapping wing back if nobody's going to cover you if you get forward? I don't realistically expect players like Marhez, Gray or even Lawrence if he stays to be full blooded expert defensive tacklers, that's clearly not their forte.  I would however expect them to provide some cover if their wing back goes on a run.

[Gerard]

3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Is that premier league winning right back Danny Simpson? 

 

Whats Bellerin won domestically? Couple of Fa cups? 

 

Who even is Roma's right back?

 

With the personnel we have now we could evolve to attacking full backs and I thought that might be why Iborra was brought in.

 

Much like Tottenham when their full backs play like wingers in possession and Iborra could be our Eric Dier who plays that holding midfielder role and drops in as a centre half to make three when both the full backs are attacking. Something like this with current players.

 

Albrighton Morgan Maguire Chilwell

                        Iborra 

        Drinkwater            Ndidi

     Mahrez                        Gray

                        Vardy