st albans fox Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 11 minutes ago, FIF said: It doesn't need to be rotational if the player is playing well and the team is winning and the player is fit. For me a big problem last season was that when Vardy was shit he was still the first name on the team sheet. If that's the case then we have no hope anyway. The vardy of the last 25% of the season was fantastic the vardy for most of the first 70% shouldn't have been in the team. This is only my opinion please don't start a flame war with me. I think we can all agree that there was more wrong with the team than just vards for the first 25 games no argument with you, just the way I see it. We aren't a top five club re wage structure (like Spurs) so can't expect players who consider themselves to be 'first choice' to sit around most games. It's a problem for teams like ours to make the jump to be consistently able to challenge for top four and then be able to stay there re squad depth/quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 I think that West Ham paying 15m for Hernandez and us 30 for Slimani (and that was at the start of LAST season) is suggestive of us rather having had our pants pulled down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 4 minutes ago, Col city fan said: I think that West Ham paying 15m for Hernandez and us 30 for Slimani (and that was at the start of LAST season) is suggestive of us rather having had our pants pulled down. He was clearly a last minute panic buy and if the rumours are true to help keep sulky Mahrez happy aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 Still think given a good pre season he can shine . Gets in the right positions all the time . Just needs service and a claridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 9 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: He was clearly a last minute panic buy and if the rumours are true to help keep sulky Mahrez happy aswell. Please not that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonFox Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 1 hour ago, waylander said: Still think given a good pre season he can shine . Gets in the right positions all the time . Just needs service and a claridge. Think he's a bit old now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 1 hour ago, Col city fan said: I think that West Ham paying 15m for Hernandez and us 30 for Slimani (and that was at the start of LAST season) is suggestive of us rather having had our pants pulled down. Shall we see how he does first? He scored less goals than Kramaric last season and less than Okazaki got at Mainz, there are no guarantees it translates to this league. The deal is also £20m rising to £24m and by all accounts he's earning north of £130k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 Assuming Iheanacho comes then I think the ideal situation for us is to sell Slimani and Musa and go with Ulloa and Okazaki as back up. Whilst we know Ulloa and Okazaki aren't world beaters they can be trusted and they bring variety to our four strikers. Forest are about to pay £2m for 34 year old Daryl Murphy so Ulloa and Okazaki still can maintain a decent transfer fee in a year's time if we look to upgrade on either of them. With no European football Ulloa and Okazaki won't get much game time unless there's an injury so I think we're in a relatively ideal situation with those front four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 Slimani is vital for indirect both free-kicks and corners. Without him, these areas of the game may well go to waste as we'd missing the big presence like Slimani to suit these situations. If Mahrez does go, Slimani could be found lost in both translation and also being the pecking order eventually (the latter certainly when Iheanacho comes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 2 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Slimani is vital for indirect both free-kicks and corners. Without him, these areas of the game may well go to waste as we'd missing the big presence like Slimani to suit these situations. If Mahrez does go, Slimani could be found lost in both translation and also being the pecking order eventually (the latter certainly when Iheanacho comes). We now have Maguire and Iborra as big presences. Benny also speaks French (although arguably his English isn't much better than Slim's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bablemikey Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 If it's a choice between keeping Slimani or Ulloa we would have to let Ulloa go in my view. There is little to choose between them, however we've already seen everything that Ulloa has to offer but we've yet to see the potential of Slimani really brought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 21 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: 17 minutes ago, brucey said: We now have Maguire and Iborra as big presences. Benny also speaks French (although arguably his English isn't much better than Slim's) We also have N'Didi n Huth. I personally think if we can get the delivery right from set pieces, we could be lethal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertfox2 Posted 21 July 2017 Share Posted 21 July 2017 3 hours ago, Worthington said: Sort of agree, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of two scenarios were to develop: 1); Looking to sign an upgrade.... or, more likely, 2): Going to change the tactical structure of the team (hence our still apparently seeking a BTB midfielder) !! Any upgrade is unknown. Tactical changes could happen but ultimately Okazaki is our get out of jail free card. He plays we get points. Maybe next season if we do well without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redouane Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 I wanna be the first to say to the haters.. I told you so hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesta Legend Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 What's that put a good ball into the box and he scores. Shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 5 minutes ago, Redouane said: I wanna be the first to say to the haters.. I told you so hehe Ha ha, slim is a beast he will score a a bundle of goals this season. We need to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGBFitness Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 Slim is a limited player, his overall play he offers little to the team apart from holding up play but get the ball in the box to him especially in the air and 9 times out of 10 he will bag. We did get ripped off with his price tag last season but would definitely want to keep him here. With our style of play he isn't good enough to play as either a 9 or 10 from the start, 20/30 mins sub appearances should be his contribution - get the ball into the box when teams are sitting deep or used as a defender during set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 Fuchs seems to have been getting up and down that wing a lot first 45, can see us trying to play to Slims strengths more this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle10 Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 19 minutes ago, EGBFitness said: Slim is a limited player, his overall play he offers little to the team apart from holding up play but get the ball in the box to him especially in the air and 9 times out of 10 he will bag. We did get ripped off with his price tag last season but would definitely want to keep him here. With our style of play he isn't good enough to play as either a 9 or 10 from the start, 20/30 mins sub appearances should be his contribution - get the ball into the box when teams are sitting deep or used as a defender during set pieces. He is good to play at the 9 position with your style of play, the 10 position he isn't unfortunately. He isn't that limited, his feet aren't the best that is a fact but they aren't terrible, he is fast for a big lad and works hard, and of course has that aerial threat. And one thing is for sure, he isn't a player to have on the bench, he is one to be on the starting 11, otherwise sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 1 hour ago, Redouane said: I wanna be the first to say to the haters.. I told you so hehe Il be second. Watch him fly this year. Either with us or with someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 2 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Il be second. Watch him fly this year. Either with us or with someone else i like Slim but sadly i feel he will be flying high for another team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 All he does is score goals (that's not true he does much more but who can really complain about his goal scoring record even in his infrequent run outs for us). Another class or 2 above Ulloa. Still he is the bench option when we sign Iheanacho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle10 Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 10 minutes ago, FIF said: All he does is score goals (that's not true he does much more but who can really complain about his goal scoring record even in his infrequent run outs for us). Another class or 2 above Ulloa. Still he is the bench option when we sign Iheanacho. Would it be wise to keep a player like Slimani in the bench? He has 29 years old, you either recoup some money or it was a waste of £29m. I get why people prefer to keep Ulloa, Ulloa isn't on high wages, he is ok with coming from the bench and he isn't nowhere near the value of Slim. That is my point of view, either keep him to play him regularly or sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 Ulloa is dog shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 22 July 2017 Share Posted 22 July 2017 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Ulloa is dog shit He really is. Offers so little when he's on the pitch it's shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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