jayfox26 Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 People are right that Barkley wouldn't sign for us. However I'd be tempted to throw in a cheeky loan bid for the season. We'd pay Everton for the loan and pay his wages and he plays every week which will help him get his big move next summer and help him get in the world cup squad. He doesn't seem to be part of Koemans plans so would be better to start every week for us than hardly play at Everton.
jon1bc Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Just now, Wymeswold fox said: Not sure, if Drinkwater and Mahrez don't go, how to feel having players in a team that don't really want to be there. I don't give a fk as long as they put in good performances
ZeGuy Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 6 minutes ago, jon1bc said: But does that stop him playing the ball forward? I don't buy this injury crap, if he wasn't fit enough to put in the work rate for a good performance then he wouldn't have been playing. Even if he was injured last season, how about the pre-season? He was crap as well, playing backwards constantly. Then comes the thigh strain. Yeah, right...
HankMarvin Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 1 minute ago, jayfox26 said: People are right that Barkley wouldn't sign for us. However I'd be tempted to throw in a cheeky loan bid for the season. We'd pay Everton for the loan and pay his wages and he plays every week which will help him get his big move next summer and help him get in the world cup squad. He doesn't seem to be part of Koemans plans so would be better to start every week for us than hardly play at Everton. Contract up next year they need to cash in
jayfox26 Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Just now, HankMarvin said: Contract up next year they need to cash in But nobody is bidding for him. Better to get some money through a loan fee than nothing at all.
Babylon Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 9 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Maybe the evaluation is also in parts based on last season's performances? They probably know he was carrying an injury and couldn't give it his best. He's officially still injured, mind. So they're buying "damaged goods" and want a rebate... Sigurdsson has played 124 PL matches in his 3 1/2 years at Swansea, scoring 34 goals and dishing out 30 assists. Drinkwater's stats pale in comparison. Most people outside of Leicester see DD as a defensive midfielder, don't know why but that seems to be what they think on their forums. A fairer comparison is stats against the like of Dier and Matic, as that's the sort of player Chelsea would expect him to mirror. He stands up pretty well to be fair and how much did / would they all cost?
woznotwos Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 50 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: My budgerigar would look great playing in midfield alongside Kante. Whilst he has good airial ability I cant see him being able to pick out a pass.
MC Prussian Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: Most people outside of Leicester see DD as a defensive midfielder, don't know why but that seems to be what they think on their forums. A fairer comparison is stats against the like of Dier and Matic, as that's the sort of player Chelsea would expect him to mirror. He stands up pretty well to be fair and how much did / would they all cost? Matic has won loads of trophies with Chelsea and is probably more of a true defensive midfielder, whereas Drinkwater is more box-to-box. £40m maybe a bit over the odds, but then again, it's Manchester United buying. Schneiderlin was in the region of £24m, wasn't he? Probably the closest of an example you can get. So, I can't see why we'd get much more than that for a player of the same age. Dier is a hot prospect due to his age and will command quite a hefty fee should he ever move away from Spurs.
Mythyaar Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Other than sevilla away and Liverpool home last season he didn't do that well. Chelsea obviously valuing him on his performances 2015/16 alongside two consecutive PFA players of the season. Take the money.
Beachyboy Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Don't understand why this deal wasn't done earlier would of happily took £30 million for Drinkwater providing we were given Zouma, Loftus cheek an Abraham on loan for the season.
Vardinio'sCat Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 5 hours ago, st albans fox said: True but he could just do that behind the scenes and include his bonus in the fee. Making it public is upping the ante big style because now we all know and the club will not want to risk keeping a potentially unpopular player. I guess seeing riyad playing and not being slaughtered won't help his cause on this one. Ahh, hadn't thought of that, good point.
Fox92 Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 30 minutes ago, Mythyaar said: Other than sevilla away and Liverpool home last season he didn't do that well. Chelsea obviously valuing him on his performances 2015/16 alongside two consecutive PFA players of the season. Take the money. He was our best player last season up untill about November time. Drinkwater is vital to us and controls midfield. When he plays well, we usually do.
Mike Oxlong Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 46 minutes ago, woznotwos said: Whilst he has good airial ability I cant see him being able to pick out a pass. Great on the wing though.
Babylon Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 38 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Matic has won loads of trophies with Chelsea and is probably more of a true defensive midfielder, whereas Drinkwater is more box-to-box. £40m maybe a bit over the odds, but then again, it's Manchester United buying. Schneiderlin was in the region of £24m, wasn't he? Probably the closest of an example you can get. So, I can't see why we'd get much more than that for a player of the same age. Dier is a hot prospect due to his age and will command quite a hefty fee should he ever move away from Spurs. Schneiderlinto united was two years ago and cost £25m... which in today's market is about £450 billion. Dier is one of the most one dimensional footballers I've seem, hugely overrated. We're right to demand at least £35m in this market I think.
JP the Fox Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Surely if Drinky goes then Mendy will stay? Pretty much a like-for-like player and Mendy is a better passer of the ball too. Second highest passing accuracy stats just behind Thiago Motta in his final season in ligue 1. Also we have Iborra to play in the hole behind the strikers if needed and he shares the same level of aggression as Danny. I think the only issue with him leaving is the friendships he had in the squad, I have a feeling that the youngsters; Ndidi, Iheanacho, Gray, Chillwell are all a different breed to the leaders in the dressing room. I.e, Wes, Huth, Kasper, Vards, Simmo, Fuchs and Albrighton, once they lose their group over the squad then our world famous team ethic and unity dissapears too...
Koke Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Dier is definitely overrated. Very one dimensional but he can cover several positions adequately. Drinkwater is a better footballer than Dier though. I'm so bored of this story. Can't wait til tomorrow night when it's done and dusted.
Guest ttfn Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 21 minutes ago, Babylon said: Schneiderlinto united was two years ago and cost £25m... which in today's market is about £450 billion. Dier is one of the most one dimensional footballers I've seem, hugely overrated. We're right to demand at least £35m in this market I think. Schneiderlin to Everton was 6 months ago and £20 million, rising to £24 million (according to Wikipedia). He's a better player than Drinkwater, albeit the market has probably moved on another 10-20% since then.
Vardinio'sCat Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Rumour has it that he'd had a hip flexor injury for most of last season. Can't remember where I read that though so it might not be public knowledge. Amazing how few posters know this, are we sure this isn't ForestTalk. Tbf, urban at least remembers more than most on here. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/806924/Leicester-Danny-Drinkwater-England-World-Cup-qualifier-Scotland-Craig-Shakespeare 'The 27-year-old has so far withdrawn from each of Gareth Southgate’s squads as manager with a hip flexor injury that has been managed during the season by Leicester’s medical staff. He has now been ruled out of the end of his club’s campaign with a thigh issue and Foxes boss Craig Shakespeare does not believe he will recover in time for the game in Glasgow on June 10 or the friendly in France on June 13.'
AyewJoking Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Can't blame Danny for wanting to leave. Are Chelsea going to match our valuation in the remaining hours or have they just unsettled one of our key players?
The Floyd Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 20 minutes ago, Fox92 said: He was our best player last season up untill about November time. Drinkwater is vital to us and controls midfield. When he plays well, we usually do. I personally think this has to be one of the most meaningless phrases in football. You could quite easily argue that he is the beneficiary of the team playing well rather than the contrary. Also, your belief that he was our best player until November last season disproves the idea that we play well when he does.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 4 hours ago, FrankieADZ said: probably one of the more reliable journo's imo so certainly would believe him more than "sky sources" Sounds like there has been no injury the last month. Just a transfer request and the club pulling the wool over our ?. If this was the case wouldn't we be more active looking for a replacement?
Dames Posted 30 August 2017 Posted 30 August 2017 Just now, NotTheMarketLeader said: Sounds like there has been no injury the last month. Just a transfer request and the club pulling the wool over our ?. If this was the case wouldn't we be more active looking for a replacement? It seems Rudkins 'strategy' is to sit and hope no-body meets our valuations of these players.
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