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Adrien Silva - Terms Agreed

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Posted

Just had a thought...as this could have the potential to rumble on till January, this thread could get legendary status and smash the nu.ber of pages for a transfer! Let's do this!!

Posted

I don't get FIFA at all on this they represent the world game. Adrien Silva is part of that. They can't just leave an international player in limbo for 4 months due to a bit of late admin. 

 

Surely he has to be allowed to play somewhere.

Posted
6 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

 

Hopefully you're job doesn't rely heavily on liaising with senior management via email, otherwise you'd have had the chop long ago! 

Hopefully your job doesn't either :ph34r:

Posted

So, the current position is we have the same midfield as before the window with the addition of Iborra (given that DD wasn't playing up to his defection transfer) it's cost us approx £22 million and we will be paying Silvas wages until January. Be hard to argue that Silva is denied the chance to work as he will be paid as a highly professional trainee (I assume he will move here and train with us).

 

One bright note is that we will get the chance to use him a lot quicker than it took for us to use Mendy (if you discount the short time of Mendy's first game). Hopefully a small section of KP stadium will be excavated and a cucking (or ducking) stool fitted whereby Rudkin could be tried, the gate receipts for the sell out crowd of FT members will cover the cost of Silva's wages until January.

Posted
9 hours ago, BigMicky said:

I care more for the person who was sending the papers. How the tables turn, sympathy for a multi millionaire footballer that may miss a few months of football. But let's hang the folk who may have made a mistake.

Was it you that went for a pee Micky and didn't press send in time?

Posted

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/leicester-citys-transfer-adrien-silva-443278

 

"There appeared to be no precedent but it has now emerged that Celtic may have provided one when they were able to get Guidetti’s loan move from Manchester City approved by FIFA on appeal."

 

Yes, I found it and sent you it on Twitter :dry:

 

In fact, there are a few previous cases of this. Even the ex-FIFA juryer has claimed that it's quite common.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Ricey said:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/leicester-citys-transfer-adrien-silva-443278

 

"There appeared to be no precedent but it has now emerged that Celtic may have provided one when they were able to get Guidetti’s loan move from Manchester City approved by FIFA on appeal."

 

Yes, I found it and sent you it on Twitter :dry:

 

In fact, there are a few previous cases of this. Even the ex-FIFA juryer has claimed that it's quite common.

There was a post about 100 pages back regarding that Nice to Sporting  transfer that had similar issues, where they didn't appeal and the consensus was if they had appealed it would be overturned. FIFA have to reject the initial request on a point of principle but will listen to logic and common sense on appeal. Sporting or Nice didn't appeal in that case and ended up with a player not playing for 4 months.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Captain... said:

There was a post about 100 pages back regarding that Nice to Sporting  transfer that had similar issues, where they didn't appeal and the consensus was if they had appealed it would be overturned. FIFA have to reject the initial request on a point of principle but will listen to logic and common sense on appeal. Sporting or Nice didn't appeal in that case and ended up with a player not playing for 4 months.

I might be wrong, but I think if the club felt an appeal might be successful they would have done it last Friday morning when the IPC was first rejected.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

The fact we haven't appealed yet tells me we know we messed up and are desperately trying to find a case worth presenting 

That is pure guesswork on your part.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

The fact we haven't appealed yet tells me we know we messed up and are desperately trying to find a case worth presenting 

They never tell us or the local media anything these days, we have no idea what they are doing really.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

The fact we haven't appealed yet tells me we know we messed up and are desperately trying to find a case worth presenting 

 

3 minutes ago, Ricey said:

I might be wrong, but I think if the club felt an appeal might be successful they would have done it last Friday morning when the IPC was first rejected.

I'd say at this point it's better to ensure you have all the facts and evidence in the minutest detail because they'll only get one chance at this. for that they'll need SL's, the FA's and all their own evidence that might not be that easy to conjure up quickly.

Posted
16 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

That is pure guesswork on your part.

If course it is but so is the last 105 pages on this thread. Common sense says if they had an airtight case they would have appealed by now rather than holding days of internal meetings.

Posted

One persons common sense here would be different some one else's. Personally I think it's quiet due to legal advice, getting the best possible case and employing the best possible lawyers. It's taken a week for a Mercury journalist to find a comparable case for example which can be used against FIFA. Such an instance will be very useful if it goes to the CAS. If rejection was Tuesday, then three days isn't really a delay in appeal. 

 

I suspect too FIFA were in 'international mode' over last week with the World Cup qualifiers and their staff would have been hard to contact. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

If course it is but so is the last 105 pages on this thread. Common sense says if they had an airtight case they would have appealed by now rather than holding days of internal meetings.

That's so wrong, when you go to appeal it's best to get all the evidence in at first so you can prove your case 

Posted
11 minutes ago, davieG said:

 

I'd say at this point it's better to ensure you have all the facts and evidence in the minutest detail because they'll only get one chance at this. for that they'll need SL's, the FA's and all their own evidence that might not be that easy to conjure up quickly.

 

Exactly, the club will collate all the information and take legal advice rather than just attack FIFA half cocked the morning after. I'd imagine by now our lawyers have gone through the exact wording of the laws and regulations and are fully aware of all similar cases.

 

I think we get this through on appeal. There will be little appetite for FIFA to refuse this as no one gains from it and it looks terrible that FIFA are punishing a player with effectively a half season ban through no fault of his own.

 

FIFA's PR is already terrible with the bribing scandal and awarding World Cups to Russia and Qatar so persecuting a player isn't going to help that. They should give Leicester a small punishment instead and maybe limit us to one purchase in the January transfer window.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

If course it is but so is the last 105 pages on this thread. Common sense says if they had an airtight case they would have appealed by now rather than holding days of internal meetings.

How do we know they haven't appealed? Even if they haven't, it doesn't mean they won't as there will be a team of sports lawyers trawling through transfers to try and find evidence to help. On top of that they are probably also looking into what happens should any appeal fail with regards Silva... do we keep him, or can they send him back etc.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said:

If course it is but so is the last 105 pages on this thread. Common sense says if they had an airtight case they would have appealed by now rather than holding days of internal meetings.

 

That's not how these things work, you'd think a court case when the defendant is obviously guilty would take a few hours but it can still take weeks.

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