Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[MPH]

8 minutes ago, Daggers said:

All A&E needs is a volunteer Dad to sit on a chair outside prior to triage. 
 

“Is it probably fatal? No? **** off home and take a paracetamol or put on a plaster.”

 

Job done. 
 

Guaranteed to reduce A&E queue by 90%. 
 

Meanwhile you get another volunteer Dad to go around turning down all the thermostats and saving the NHS on heating bills. 
 

Trust me, whatever problems the NHS is facing, the answer is Dads. 

 

 

 

Edited 9 March 2023 by MPH

[grobyfox1990]

8 hours ago, Sampson said:

How is someone falling over when drunk “their own fault” though? And on what legal grounds could you really assess someone in care whether they need help or not.

 

Someone had too much alcohol and enjoyed themselves? What’s wrong with that? Yeah they fell over which intoxicated but it’s not like they fell over deliberately.

 

You can’t take people’s right to enjoy themselves away by forcing medical bills on them. Getting really drunk isn’t everyone’s idea of having fun for sure it’s not mine, but for plenty of people it is. Why would you rake that away from them?

 

It just totally encourages people who actually need to use the nhs, not to use it.

 

And how does that expand to mental health issues? Should someone who tried to commit suicide not get medical help because they can’t afford it as it was “their own fault” they got injured? Even when plenty who survive suicide attempts are thankful they survived?

You’re not taking anything away from them, no one had said that. You’re introducing a disincentive/consequence that means they have to be more careful when they’re getting hammered. 
 

Morai hazard is a very real thing. Humans often work by being scared of a disincentive, very simple. No one denied any cry babies the right to their plastic bags, just pay 5p for it, usage down 89%. Oh what a surprise!!!! 
 

Mute conversation anyway, waiting 18 hours at a&e is enough of a disincentive 

[Izzy]

13 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

Funnily enough I am becoming more and more aware of that too  Shame @Buce  isn't around anymore to see it!

It might be an 'age' thing Deb.

 

I found myself watching Bernie Saunders being interviewed by Frankie Boyle on YT last night. @ozleicesterwould be proud 

 

 

[The Bear]

I understand the drunken injury comment. 

 

If you get so drunk that you hurt yourself, then it is 100% your own fault. No-one forced you to drink so much. They should still be treated though. 

 

I still go back to my NHS phoneline point. Let them assess whether it needs to be a trip to A&E. Unless they approve it you don't get accepted in. If not by phone then a triage point outside A&E. 

[ozleicester]

21 minutes ago, Izzy said:

It might be an 'age' thing Deb.

 

I found myself watching Bernie Saunders being interviewed by Frankie Boyle on YT last night. @ozleicesterwould be proud 

 

 

Thanks.. will be watching later

[Parafox]

12 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

There are, unfortunately, those who maliciously call the emergency services, including ambulances of course.

Rarely, as I understand it, are deliberate time wasters prosecuted. I think they should be.

@Parafoxmay know better of course.

One chap I once was referred would call for an ambulance 3 or 4 times/day. Potential prosecution was never really considered for whatever reason however. That said, he would be really deceitful in how he did it. Often, he would just lie in the street and, inevitability,  a member of the public would call for help. He would then argue he hadn't called for an ambulance.

EMAS and other ambulance trusts, along with other emergency services do prosecute and EMAS has a dedicated "team" to pursue prosecutions:

 

A 31-year-old woman who repeatedly rang 999 and was verbally aggressive to ambulance crews has been handed a Criminal Behaviour Order by the courts.

Holly Coogan, from Nottingham, rang 999 for an ambulance 151 times, for a police response 74 times and made 43 calls to NHS 111 which resulted in an ambulance response, all in the space of just six months.

The EMAS Frequent Caller Team has worked closely with colleagues in Nottinghamshire Police and other professionals in an attempt to support Coogan, but our organisations were left with no option but to pursue prosecution.

Coogan appeared at Nottingham Magistrates’ Court on 31 January where she pleaded guilty to using a public electronic communications network to cause annoyance inconvenience or anxiety.

She was sentenced to a 12-month community order and told to pay an £85 victim surcharge.

The Nottinghamshire Police Mental Health triage car team and the EMAS Frequent Caller Team have also worked hard to secure a Criminal Behaviour Order from the courts.

Coogan was therefore handed a two-year CBO banning her from making false reports to waste the time of police, fire or ambulance services.

If she breaches the order, Coogan will have committed a criminal offence and could be sent to prison.

Deborah Powell, Frequent Caller Lead at EMAS, said: “We are pleased that our joint work with colleagues in Nottinghamshire Police has successfully resulted in a Criminal Behaviour Order.

“Emergency services staff come to work to save lives and help people, not to be abused. We will continue to work with police to prosecute those who misuse our service to ensure that the support is there for those who need it in a real medical emergency.”

Superintendent Paul Burrows from Nottinghamshire Police said: “Every hoax or inappropriate call our emergency call handlers receive has the potential to delay us from responding to genuine emergencies and put someone else’s life in danger.

“If we attend a hoax call, it means we're not available when someone really needs our help. It could be a matter of life or death. Hoax calls can be traced and callers run the risk of a heavy fine and even a prison sentence.

"All we ask is that people only call 999 in genuine emergencies and remember that there are other ways to contact us for less urgent enquiries, with the Nottinghamshire Police website offering advice on hundreds of policing and non-policing issues and the 101 non-emergency number also available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.”

[Parafox]

57 minutes ago, The Bear said:

I understand the drunken injury comment. 

 

If you get so drunk that you hurt yourself, then it is 100% your own fault. No-one forced you to drink so much. They should still be treated though. 

 

I still go back to my NHS phoneline point. Let them assess whether it needs to be a trip to A&E. Unless they approve it you don't get accepted in. If not by phone then a triage point outside A&E. 

LRI A&E are building a permanent structure outside A&E for exactly this. Patients arriving by ambulance that don't need immediate or urgent treatment will be offloaded and further assessed there following handover by the ambulance crew. They then get treated, admitted or redirected to another clinical resource, a GP or pharmacist for example, if their condition requires it.

[Otis]

21 minutes ago, Parafox said:

EMAS and other ambulance trusts, along with other emergency services do prosecute and EMAS has a dedicated "team" to pursue prosecutions:

 

A 31-year-old woman who repeatedly rang 999 and was verbally aggressive to ambulance crews has been handed a Criminal Behaviour Order by the courts.

Holly Coogan, from Nottingham, rang 999 for an ambulance 151 times, for a police response 74 times and made 43 calls to NHS 111 which resulted in an ambulance response, all in the space of just six months.

The EMAS Frequent Caller Team has worked closely with colleagues in Nottinghamshire Police and other professionals in an attempt to support Coogan, but our organisations were left with no option but to pursue prosecution.

Coogan appeared at Nottingham Magistrates’ Court on 31 January where she pleaded guilty to using a public electronic communications network to cause annoyance inconvenience or anxiety.

She was sentenced to a 12-month community order and told to pay an £85 victim surcharge.

The Nottinghamshire Police Mental Health triage car team and the EMAS Frequent Caller Team have also worked hard to secure a Criminal Behaviour Order from the courts.

Coogan was therefore handed a two-year CBO banning her from making false reports to waste the time of police, fire or ambulance services.

If she breaches the order, Coogan will have committed a criminal offence and could be sent to prison.

Deborah Powell, Frequent Caller Lead at EMAS, said: “We are pleased that our joint work with colleagues in Nottinghamshire Police has successfully resulted in a Criminal Behaviour Order.

“Emergency services staff come to work to save lives and help people, not to be abused. We will continue to work with police to prosecute those who misuse our service to ensure that the support is there for those who need it in a real medical emergency.”

Superintendent Paul Burrows from Nottinghamshire Police said: “Every hoax or inappropriate call our emergency call handlers receive has the potential to delay us from responding to genuine emergencies and put someone else’s life in danger.

“If we attend a hoax call, it means we're not available when someone really needs our help. It could be a matter of life or death. Hoax calls can be traced and callers run the risk of a heavy fine and even a prison sentence.

"All we ask is that people only call 999 in genuine emergencies and remember that there are other ways to contact us for less urgent enquiries, with the Nottinghamshire Police website offering advice on hundreds of policing and non-policing issues and the 101 non-emergency number also available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.”

Soft sentence.

[AyewJoking]

I much prefer self service in supermarkets.

 

[Parafox]

13 minutes ago, Royston. said:

I much prefer self service in supermarkets.

 

Until...

 

[kenny]

58 minutes ago, Royston. said:

I much prefer self service in supermarkets.

 

I'd go all out for self service bars and cafes too. People add little of value to the process.

 

[Vestan Pance]

All dogs are pricks.

[Nalis]

15 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said:

All dogs are pricks.

You tuning in to Crufts then?

[Vestan Pance]

14 minutes ago, Nalis said:

You tuning in to Crufts then?

Under sufferance 😆

Honestly I can't look at any of them without thinking "he's/she's a nobhead" and judging by their reaction to me the feeling is mutual.

Edited 12 March 2023 by Vestan Pance

[Blarmy]

5 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said:

Under sufferance 😆

Honestly I can't look at any of them without thinking "he's/she's a nobhead" and judging by their reaction to me the feeling is mutual.

I’m like that with kids 🤷🏼‍♂️

[AyewJoking]

On 12/03/2023 at 18:22, Royston. said:

I much prefer self service in supermarkets.

 

And i loved it when covid panic had us queing 2 metres apart.

[Jon the Hat]

4 hours ago, Royston. said:

And i loved it when covid panic had us queing 2 metres apart.

The Finnish hated it.  They were delighted when they were allowed to go back to their usual 3 metres.

[Guest Manini]

On 12/03/2023 at 18:22, Royston. said:

I much prefer self service in supermarkets.

 

Scan and Go at ASDA is the ultimate. I wish they’d link the rewards app to your phone number though so it automatically applied the rewards as you scan. 

[FoyleFox]

On 12/03/2023 at 18:22, Royston. said:

I much prefer self service in supermarkets.

 

The scan as you shop option is bar far my preferred option.

 

On 12/03/2023 at 18:36, Parafox said:

Until...

 

Self scan is, in theory, great but.......this........

[Sly]

On 12/03/2023 at 19:25, Vestan Pance said:

All cats are pricks.

 

[Sly]

I miss parts of the covid lockdown.
 

Slowly the world Is losing some of the better enhancements (in my eyes) that we gained. 

 

Social distancing

 

Travelling hours for a meeting, that could have been done virtually

 

My work / life balance impacting “family time”. I didn’t even get furloughed as I’m business critical. However we now have less staff doing more 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

 

…… maybe I just need a new job 

[Free Falling Foxes]

4 hours ago, Sly said:

I miss parts of the covid lockdown.
 

Slowly the world Is losing some of the better enhancements (in my eyes) that we gained. 

 

Agree.

[lcfc278]

5 hours ago, Sly said:

I miss parts of the covid lockdown.
 

Slowly the world Is losing some of the better enhancements (in my eyes) that we gained. 

 

Social distancing

 

Travelling hours for a meeting, that could have been done virtually

 

My work / life balance impacting “family time”. I didn’t even get furloughed as I’m business critical. However we now have less staff doing more 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

 

…… maybe I just need a new job 

Probably, most definitely, an unpopular opinion but I have moments where I miss the very start of the lockdown too.

 

That first March/April/May in 2020, the weather was unbelievable. I used to come downstairs in the morning, turn the laptop on in the kitchen, make a nice coffee with the backdoor open letting in a nice little breeze as the sun was shining. No rush to get ready for work, getting the kids ready and the usual morning rush before work. It was kind of like you were safe in your own little bubble and it was lovely for those first few months.

[LanguedocFox]

On 12/03/2023 at 19:55, Vestan Pance said:

Under sufferance 😆

Honestly I can't look at any of them without thinking "he's/she's a nobhead" and judging by their reaction to me the feeling is mutual.

That’s very sad.
 

Each to their own, of course, but I had to say goodbye to my big blond Lab a week before Christmas. He was 12 and had cancer, so it had to be done, but I think about him every day, and probably always will.
 

He wouldn’t have regarded you as a knobhead, because he gave unconditional love and affection to everyone he met. If they didn’t like him for some reason, he’d just walk away, because there was always someone else who needed a bit of affection.

[Tommy G]

1 hour ago, LanguedocFox said:

That’s very sad.
 

Each to their own, of course, but I had to say goodbye to my big blond Lab a week before Christmas. He was 12 and had cancer, so it had to be done, but I think about him every day, and probably always will.
 

He wouldn’t have regarded you as a knobhead, because he gave unconditional love and affection to everyone he met. If they didn’t like him for some reason, he’d just walk away, because there was always someone else who needed a bit of affection.

Sorry for your loss