Reasons to keep Shakespeare

[jayfox26]

The most annoying thing for me is that outside the top 6 (excluding Everton of koeman could get them playing) every other team is pretty poor. Nobody has pushed on and even teams like Southampton and stoke haven't pushed on and improved. So why are we so bad? I can accept losing to Arsenal, United, chelsea and Liverpool but i cant accept drawing with hudds and bournemouth who are 2 terrible teams! On paper we have some top players but for whatever reason we just look really poor and lack confidence. I know our midfield is weak with the whole drinky/silva fiasco but even still, when i look at the players teams like Burnley, hudds, brighton etc have at their disposal, our team should be doing a lot better. I think shakey has one game to save his job. Beat wba or face the chop! 

[Daggers]

Reasons to keep him:

 

1. There’s a boom in pub trade as people rediscover the benefits of alcohol anaesthesia. 

2. Creg stands as a role model to crap chubby dads everywhere - no matter how bollocks you are, you too could one day be given a job vastly outstripping your abilities. Admittedly, he could still have achieved that by cleaning the bins at KFC.

3. His presence causes people to forget about the absence of a certain pie.

4. I get to write “Creg” a lot.

5. If he dropped his trousers and bent over you could park a fvcking large bike.

6. If he was sacked then we’d only end up with Paul Ince.

7. Paul Ince’s start would be delayed because the club would fvck up something in his contract.

[RODNEY FERNIO]

3 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

The most annoying thing for me is that outside the top 6 (excluding Everton of koeman could get them playing) every other team is pretty poor. Nobody has pushed on and even teams like Southampton and stoke haven't pushed on and improved. So why are we so bad? I can accept losing to Arsenal, United, chelsea and Liverpool but i cant accept drawing with hudds and bournemouth who are 2 terrible teams! On paper we have some top players but for whatever reason we just look really poor and lack confidence. I know our midfield is weak with the whole drinky/silva fiasco but even still, when i look at the players teams like Burnley, hudds, brighton etc have at their disposal, our team should be doing a lot better. I think shakey has one game to save his job. Beat wba or face the chop! 

Agreed there are six good teams and the rest. Where we finish in the pack is anybody's guess. Could be 8th .... could be 18th.

Funnily enough just looked at the table and we have scored more goals than any team other than the big six and Watford !

[The Doctor]

7 minutes ago, Dames said:

Its the way the team are playing and the general lethargy and apathy they appear to have.

Exactly this. We've played 5 games this month in league and cup, and all of them we were utterly outclassed first half, Chelsea, Hudders, Pool (league) it took going behind to get playing. Pool in the league cup threw it away through profligacy and took off Coutinho (who was destroying us, yet Creg did nothing to then try and stop that happening again 4 days later), and today we could have been 2 down in the first 5 minutes. The team are lackadaisical at best until the game is about gone and we have to chase. It begs the difference what Creg is doing pre-Match - what is setting out as a plan for the start of the match? what sort of team talk is he giving? At the moment the plan seems to be luck out hard and hope the opposition haven't got their sights in to be dicking us, then ??? > win.

[mod hero]

18 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

Exactly this. We've played 5 games this month in league and cup, and all of them we were utterly outclassed first half, Chelsea, Hudders, Pool (league) it took going behind to get playing. Pool in the league cup threw it away through profligacy and took off Coutinho (who was destroying us, yet Creg did nothing to then try and stop that happening again 4 days later), and today we could have been 2 down in the first 5 minutes. The team are lackadaisical at best until the game is about gone and we have to chase. It begs the difference what Creg is doing pre-Match - what is setting out as a plan for the start of the match? what sort of team talk is he giving? At the moment the plan seems to be luck out hard and hope the opposition haven't got their sights in to be dicking us, then ??? > win.

Who the **** is Creg?

[justfoxes]

Mmmmmmmm  can’t think of anything after today’s and other Shoddy performances of late ???????

 

Surely he’ll turn things around unless he’s ran over a nun or three and that’s why we’re having this shitty luck !!

[Parafox]

I'm not sure what he did in the second half of last season but whatever it was, it's gone. He is as clueless now as we all accused CR of being at this stage 12 months ago. He looks like a scared man, sweating and under pressure, unable to manage the situation and lacking in ideas of finding a way to improve. I had high hopes for him and I said at the time he comes across as a decent man. So did CR. I love that man for what he gave us but, ultimately he had to go. Now I fear Shakey has to step aside, do what he is best at and let a MANAGER take his place. No-one ever succeeded by being everyone's friend and I feel that is what he is seen as in the dressing room and they like him but don't follow him. He doesn't have the strength of character to manage.

 

Plus, he's a Roy Hodgson product. There's no way we'll play in a positive style with him as coach/manager.

[Dan]

I can't name a single one. We play absolutely diabolical football, have zero ambition or imagination in our play whatsoever and appear to be getting worse.

 

I've given him the benefit of the doubt but this is one time too many. He's a coach, not a manager.

[Vardinio'sCat]

 

We may have alarm bells ringing and lights flashing, but I think we are still some way off hitting the panic pearson button.

 

10 games in would be a minimum (given we lose or draw the next 3), for me, and even then I would blame our farcical attempts (over 2 seasons) to field a team without a hole in the middle, as much as Shakey individually.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GloverFox]

Clearly something has to change as we once again look like dead-cert relegation fodder ... predictable, uninspired football has to be being driven from the management team and for that reasoning Shakes needs to be moved on before it becomes a mountain to climb just to survive! 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

9 hours ago, HitchinFox said:

We've had a tough start, not helped by the fixture list.

Shakespeare turned it around last February and, for me, that alone is enough to give him a proper opportunity to build a team that is "his". 

Also, don't forget that Shakey probably only allowed Drinkwater to go if we got Silva in. For me, we clearly miss Danny and it's a ridiculous situation we've got ourselves with Silva. King is a club legend and I won't have a bad word said against him, but he is no DD. King hasn't lost us any points this season, but he hasn't won us any either – something DD did on a regular basis. 

So let Shakey try and sort this out. We are, as it stands, in a relegation battle, but have more than enough to stay up.

I keep saying this – there are plenty of teams worse than us, so we will be ok. Whether that's good enough for the owners is another matter. But with the likes of Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Brighton and Palace around, we'll be ok. 

 

The same Bournemouth and Huddersfield who both should have walloped us? Ok, we beat an uninspiring Brighton at home. But they've improved. 

 

We are playing the worst turgid, clueless, skillless, aimless, rudderless football and failing to get results at the moment but you think it is OK as ultimately a few sides will be worse so we'll cling on by our prepuce? 

[Mark]

8 hours ago, Johnthefoxrayner said:

We all like to blame Shakey  but what is Appleton doing he is the coach maybe he is the problem.. 

Appoint mediocrity get mediocrity

[On our way...]

Sorry Shakey but you have been promoted beyond your capability. Great servant to the club and an awesome job in the first few games. You made the difference to keep us up. But does this ring any bells...

 

After the sacking of Leicester managerCraig Levein, following 18 months in charge, Kelly stepped up from his Assistant Manager role to take control on a caretaker basis.

In his first ten games in charge his team took 21 points from a possible 30, steering the side up the Championship table and away from the threat of relegation to League One. He was awarded the Championship Manager of the Month award for March 2006. This followed wins over relegation rivals Hull City and Millwall, as well as victory against Luton Town and a creditable draw against Premiership-boundReading. In recognition of his achievements, on 14 April 2006 he signed a one-year rolling contract, confirming his status as manager.

On 11 April 2007 Kelly was sacked due to a poor run of results, his final game being a 3–0 defeat away to Plymouth Argyle. He was replaced by Nigel Worthington until the end of the season.

[Buce]

14 hours ago, Col city fan said:

A lot of people were well happy when we made him our permanent manager, myself included. So I ain't gonna be completely hypocritical now.

I think it's looking like Shakespeare is just one of many who need to leave the football club in favour of some fresh ideas and probably, younger personnel.

Rudkin, Shaky, Whelan (is she still there and what does she do) to name but three, have been at the club for many years and I suspect they have their cosy toes well under the table.

So I'm now struggling to see why we should keep any of em to be honest.

Trying to play 442 without Kante and Drinkwater is fookin ridiculous. It smacks of 'old hat'. 

The club needs some new wine.

 

The way they played yesterday, I assumed they'd already had a skin full.

 

10 hours ago, joachim1965 said:

Drugs are not the answer.

 

That depends on the question.

 

How else are we going to cope with this crap?

[HitchinFox]

2 hours ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

The same Bournemouth and Huddersfield who both should have walloped us? Ok, we beat an uninspiring Brighton at home. But they've improved. 

 

We are playing the worst turgid, clueless, skillless, aimless, rudderless football and failing to get results at the moment but you think it is OK as ultimately a few sides will be worse so we'll cling on by our prepuce? 

 

 

Ha! Well, I didn't say that (but good use of prepuce there). I'm just a bit more positive than others about our current state, I guess. 

We are misfiring, for sure, and playing wholly uninspiring football at the moment. But our chosen way to play – countering with pace – depends on all those little things in games to line up. That's not happening, for whatever reason, but we've still picked up some points. 

All I'm saying is that I see us switching it on, all of a sudden, like we did in the great escape season and last February – hopefully after this two-week break. I could be completely wrong, but at the moment I don't think we're doomed – like some seem to suggest. 

[Iowfoxes]

Never wanted him, transfers are poor. Go now before it's too late ?

[RODNEY FERNIO]

I think people are overreacting a bit.

Shakey is on a learning curve as a manager and hopefully will recognise his mistakes and rectify them.

In fact I thought towards the end of yesterday's match the front four of Vardy , Nacho, Mahrez and Gray looked promising.

The midfield is obviously going to be a disaster area until this Silva thing is sorted out ... but the blame lies with those above him not Shakey.

If he becomes more flexible with his tactics and recognizes some of the current squad are just not premier league level players he may have a future.

If he continues to be stubborn and inflexible we will have to get rid.

 

 

[wurmer]

I said he'd be gone by Christmas when he was appointed, and I still stand by that, he's a very good coach but the manager role is a very very different one.

 

I've seen nothing that convinces me that he can get them performing - as individuals and certainly as a team in the role he is in.

 

 

It's not the results that bother me at the moment, it's the clear lack of impetus with every team member and the result is performances which are just not good enough for the, in theory very good bunch of individual players that we have at the moment.

[Happy Fox]

He doesn't inspire confidence, he looks lost and bewildered.

 

This is what he said pre Bournemouth..

 

"I think the fixtures we've had does help explain the run we are on but we are disappointed because we wanted a better points return.

"We knew at the beginning of the season, when the fixtures were put out, that it was going to be hard.

"We knew we were up against some of the top teams and we knew what to expect, so there's no point harping on about it.

"You have to move on and we're over that but that doesn't mean that any of the games coming up are any easier.

"Bournemouth are a very good side but they haven't made the best of starts either, for whatever reason.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

1 hour ago, HitchinFox said:

 

Ha! Well, I didn't say that (but good use of prepuce there). I'm just a bit more positive than others about our current state, I guess. 

We are misfiring, for sure, and playing wholly uninspiring football at the moment. But our chosen way to play – countering with pace – depends on all those little things in games to line up. That's not happening, for whatever reason, but we've still picked up some points. 

All I'm saying is that I see us switching it on, all of a sudden, like we did in the great escape season and last February – hopefully after this two-week break. I could be completely wrong, but at the moment I don't think we're doomed – like some seem to suggest. 

Thanks for your response. We'll have to differ. We don't have the personnel to play that game now in my opinion but have other options. Nevertheless, we could still play a higher press but Shakey seems incapable of picking a team to do that or perhaps instilling it into the team. Or looking at any effective actions. Just the same 442 that is being overrun and playing overly defensively.

[chicagofox]

1 hour ago, HitchinFox said:

All I'm saying is that I see us switching it on, all of a sudden, like we did in the great escape season and last February

The first time was after a formation change (which Shakespeare has shown no evidence that is he is willing/able to do) and the second was after a managerial sacking.  Neither just happened all of a sudden.

[hackenbacker]

 

[CupidStunt]

We look and are playing football exactly like the team we witnessed before Ranieri got the sack, Clueless and devoid of ideas.

It will only get worse if we dont get some confidence. Shaky will start ringing the changes to no avail and ultimately get the boot

[foxfanazer]

I can’t even be arsed to talk about LCFC at the moment. Totally disillusioned with them at the moment and don’t trust the decision makers at the club. 

[somebum]

There's no reason at all to keep him