Iborra - Key Player?

[kingfox]

I believe he was dropped because he started to become a liability in terms of passing, of course Puel likes players who can keep the ball, that's probably why Silva wasn't in the squad today because his passing was atrocious last week.

 

What Iborra offers is calmness, as a fan you feel more comfortable watching him over James, Silva and even Ndidi. 

 

He isn't perfect, he can look slow at times, he can be rash at times, his passing can be a liability at times; however as a team  we look far more comfortable with him in the side, sometimes he acts like a second captain in my opinion.

[Fox92]

Superb performance. Takes the ball from players all the time, calm and always looking forward.

 

Can't believe we've persisted with James while Iborra has been on the bench.

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

29 minutes ago, kingfox said:

I believe he was dropped because he started to become a liability in terms of passing, of course Puel likes players who can keep the ball, that's probably why Silva wasn't in the squad today because his passing was atrocious last week.

 

What Iborra offers is calmness, as a fan you feel more comfortable watching him over James, Silva and even Ndidi. 

 

He isn't perfect, he can look slow at times, he can be rash at times, his passing can be a liability at times; however as a team  we look far more comfortable with him in the side, sometimes he acts like a second captain in my opinion.

Then wtf is ndidi playing every week for then

[fleckneymike]

Does his celebration hint at why he was rested. Ball up jumper and thumb sucking in celebration at birth of a child?

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

Pleased he played well. I think on form he offers way more than James. Think he was harshly treated getting dropped when seemingly playing ok. Let's see who Puel puts out next week.

[Manwell Pablo]

His contribution will obviously be over stated due to the fact he's come back in we've won and he's scored but I am of the opinion he should be starting.

[Clever Fox]

Iborra certainly offers more going forward with the added bonus of a Goal threat, So classy on the Ball.

[katieakita]

Just impressed by the way he reads the game, little things like today winning a foul at the start of injury time off Livermore, just slowed the game down and remember he did it against Spurs. being able just to steady the team and play at a tempo to our liking an intelligent footballer who understands the game which some footballers just cannot. Someone like Darren Huckerby the ex Cov guy had a long career yet seemed totally unable to grasp the concept of the offside rule

[VLC86]

45 minutes ago, fleckneymike said:

Does his celebration hint at why he was rested. Ball up jumper and thumb sucking in celebration at birth of a child?

He was clearly shagged out.

[sylofox]

I bet we had some wet knickers on here this afternoon  

[Lovejoy]

Motm today, was absolutely delighted when he scored.

[weller54]

29 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I bet we had some wet knickers on here this afternoon  

Pardew's definitely were! 

[Ian Nacho]

Like I said the other week, it's no coincidence we we're sh*t with Iborra out of the side, the same applies to the fact as soon as he comes back in we win 4-1.

[5waller5]

He's quality nd should stroll into the side ahead of James ..... Maybe the reason he hasn't is to "get his head right" after the match fixing news a few weeks ago??

[Stevosevic]

Now he'll be dropped for Chelsea

[Carl the Llama]

On 11/11/2017 at 21:20, DrezZone said:

http://soccersouls.com/2017/11/11/three-players-leicester-city-should-have-avoided-signing/

 

This dude is saying Iborra is one of Leicester's worst signings the past 25 years. 

No he's saying he's saying he's one of the worst in recent seasons.  Still wrong but at least he's not putting it within the same timespan as Akinbayi or Crncic.

[Guest ttfn]

Always available for a pass and helps us move the ball forward a lot quicker than with James there. Whether he’d have had the same level of success against teams happy with a point like Swansea, Stoke and Bournemouth is certainly questionable but I’m sure he’d have been more of a presence than James in the Bournemouth game at least.

 

That said I wouldn’t say it’s a foregone conclusion that he starts next week. James and Ndidi were very effective in cutting off Hazard’s space in the game at Stamford Bridge and I wouldn’t be surprised if Puel goes back to that on Sunday.

[brucey]

14 hours ago, fleckneymike said:

Does his celebration hint at why he was rested. Ball up jumper and thumb sucking in celebration at birth of a child?

He just posted that his wife is currently expecting another boy. So no, likely tactical

[Babylon]

13 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

Like I said the other week, it's no coincidence we we're sh*t with Iborra out of the side, the same applies to the fact as soon as he comes back in we win 4-1.

Iborra played well, James has been playing poorly. But if you think Matty James was the reason we missed 51 chances in the previous three home games, or that Iborra was somehow responsible for a couple of world class goals today, then I don't know what to say. As I said in the post match thread, we were a whisker from being 2-0 down against the bottom team. So, we were pretty shit still with Iborra in the team for long periods. 

 

The game followed exactly the same format as all the other games recently. Awful start, go behind, come back into it, dominate the game and throw the kitchen sink at them. This time thank goodness we had some clinical finishing on show, we missed easier chances in the last three home games. 

 

An on form Iborra will always offer more than James, he's better for the team than James when he's playing like that. But suggesting yesterday was down to him, considering what actually happened on the pitch I just don't get it. 

Edited 11 March 2018 by Babylon

[Babylon]

17 hours ago, Stevosevic said:

He passes forward!

Mostly sideways actually. In fact you compare to the last two games for James at a quick glance of the graphics, James seemed to pass a higher % forward more. Mike McCarthy alluded to the same thing on twitter last night, that of things to criticise James for, it's probably the wrong one. Another one of those red herrings like "we hoof it loads with Simpson and Morgan".

 

He switched it quicker, was more involved, added a calmness to the game, defended well etc. Attacking forward passing... not so much. Not ones that hit the mark anyway, most of those he tried in red he lost possession. 

 

Felt sorry for McCarthy when he brought it up as everyone, as per usual missed the point he was making spectacularly. As per usual defending one aspect of someones game from unwarranted criticism, was seen as an all out defence of the player and a slight of Iborra. Which clearly it wasn't.

 

Edited 11 March 2018 by Babylon

[Guest Col city fan]

51 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Iborra played well, James has been playing poorly. But if you think Matty James was the reason we missed 51 chances in the previous three home games, or that Iborra was somehow responsible for a couple of world class goals today, then I don't know what to say. As I said in the post match thread, we were a whisker from being 2-0 down against the bottom team. So, we were pretty shit still with Iborra in the team for long periods. 

 

The game followed exactly the same format as all the other games recently. Awful start, go behind, come back into it, dominate the game and throw the kitchen sink at them. This time thank goodness we had some clinical finishing on show, we missed easier chances in the last three home games. 

 

An on form Iborra will always offer more than James, he's better for the team than James when he's playing like that. But suggesting yesterday was down to him, considering what actually happened on the pitch I just don't get it. 

Do you not think it could be a psychological thing having Iborra in the side? Yes, he gives the ball away more than he should. But he also oozes a sense of calmness, especially when he’s on his game.

Id imagine having James in the team would make his team-mates think ‘yeah, he’s solid..but that’s it. He’s not going to score or make a slide rule pass’

Whereas I’d imagine playing alongside Iborra would calm you down and make you be more willing to make runs...you know the ball will be coming more often than not.

Football isn’t all stats. Sometimes the psychology of the game gets overlooked. I guess, because it’s almost impossible to empirically prove. 

I just feel I’d like to be playing alongside Iborra more than I would James.

[JerryLundegaard]

14 hours ago, Costock_Fox said:

He was clearly shagged out.

Sorry I'll try and keep it in the off season from now on

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Col city fan said:

Do you not think it could be a psychological thing having Iborra in the side? Yes, he gives the ball away more than he should. But he also oozes a sense of calmness, especially when he’s on his game.

Id imagine having James in the team would make his team-mates think ‘yeah, he’s solid..but that’s it. He’s not going to score or make a slide rule pass’

Whereas I’d imagine playing alongside Iborra would calm you down and make you be more willing to make runs...you know the ball will be coming more often than not.

Football isn’t all stats. Sometimes the psychology of the game gets overlooked. I guess, because it’s almost impossible to empirically prove. 

I just feel I’d like to be playing alongside Iborra more than I would James.

No I don't think it would make people miss umpteen chances. Vardy and Mahrez seem like players who need Iborra on the pitch to have the right mentality? Nah.

 

We should have won all three games whether Iborra or James were playing, we had the chances. 

 

Again, I need to stipulate Iborra was very good, he brings more than James. But I'm not going over the top about his performance or his influence on the result of this particular game. Again, let's not forget we nearly 2-0 down.

[st albans fox]

Iborra isn’t the messiah !

 

however, he has a bit of what Esteban had - he has a picture of what is around him so that when he receives the ball  a lot of his passes are first time simple ones. It’s the first time passes that give the player receiving more options because the opposition have less time to close down the space. 

 

Thats also true of drago v wes. 

[woznotwos]

8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Iborra isn’t the messiah !

 

however, he has a bit of what Esteban had - he has a picture of what is around him so that when he receives the ball  a lot of his passes are first time simple ones. It’s the first time passes that give the player receiving more options because the opposition have less time to close down the space. 

 

Thats also true of drago v wes. 

What I was going to say . I'm not the sharpest tool in the box mind.