Puel In or Out - A simple Poll

[Mark - Reading]

On 07/04/2018 at 20:50, Paddy. said:

I wasn't there today but I was there for the others and they were boring as **** and we played poorly in each. If you read the match thread you'll see I gave Puel a bashing today and I've said in the post match thread that his approach to home games is all wrong. That doesn't mean I want him sacked though. You can be dissatisfied without jumping straight to 'Puel out'.  

 

As I said in my original post, my opinion is that sacking him seems too knee-jerk for me when in my mind he's not had long enough. If you think you've seen enough already then that's fair enough.

You didn’t need to be there mate if you seen the others you seen this one

 

i just feel it was the wrong appointment that’s all, my friend Rob is a Saints fan and he laughed at me when we appointed him. First game we murdered Everton and he said just you wait and now it’s its here

 

if we have a war chest in the summer let’s tap up a manager other clubs do it but we never do. We always say “well who’s available” in other words who’s the best of the shit that’s been sacked. Let’s be adventurous and go get someone. football is meant to be exciting passionate and if we lose tough shit roll on next week, at the moment I just don’t want next week to come and I’ve never been like that 

 

I don’t wana sack anyone but when you think CS was sacked at the start of the season for losing to Man UTD Liverpool Arsenal and Chelsea and lately we have lost at to Crystal Palace, Watford and Newcastle and draws with Stoke Swansea and BOurnemouth and didn’t even turn up for most of them! the future really doesn’t look good 

 

either way i’ll still support them as I said before I travel 120 miles each way to home games and I’ve not given up yet ?

[Mark - Reading]

24 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I'd be gutted if the manager was to get sacked. I just don't want us to keep sacking managers, In Pearson's second spell I took pride in the fact that we gave him time to see out his vision even though he encountered difficult periods.To go though three managers in the space of a year and a half would make us look like an absolute joke. 

I know what you Ben but at the same time Champions to Championship in 3 seasons will also make us look a complete joke. Craig Shakesphere should not have been sacked when he was the start to the season was very tough. The WBA game was shocking granted but nothing compared to the dross being served up weekly since early December 

 

we must keep supporting them but it is getting harder. As they said on Radio Leicester after the game while I was driving home, they are looking to expand the stadium, why bother because people are not going to turn up and watch that for much longer ?

[BenTheFox]

We're having people saying that Shakespeare shouldn't have been sacked. Don't seem to remember you being so vocal back in October. 

[ithuriel]

Shakey should not have been given the position full time and watching all these dire home performances has me doubting Puel, what really worries me is if he blows all the cash this summer and we get more of the same next season there might not be such a shit fest below us to safe guard us from relegation unlike this season when so many teams have been so poor.

[Donut]

50 minutes ago, Gerard said:

 

Listening to the mouth breathers on Radio Leicester after the match you would think Shakespeare was Guardiola. A Shakey team wouldn't have lost to Newcastle at home apparently.

 

I must have a hazy memory of the Shakey teams who lucked out getting away draws at Bournemouth and Huddersfield and made them look like Barcelona in the process. The man whose game plan was do what Ranieri did and have no ideas of his own and the man who completely lost the plot against Tottenham at home. I'm still convinced Shakey was always going to bring Iheanacho on in the first game of the season regardless and it was a terrible decision to bring him on for a midfielder on 83 mins when 3-2 up away at Arsenal. 

 

The performance yesterday was abysmal and I won't defend it but we have won our last two away games and I won't criticise us for the home games against Stoke, Bournemouth and Swansea as we dominated those games and did enough to win all three but hey ho.

 

Puel is highly regarded and experienced. It would be stupid to not all ow him to stamp his mark on the team after taking us to 8th place after we were left in the relegation zone under Shakey. 

Funniest thing about THAT caller on radio Leicester was another fan text in and said Shakespeare would have got us relegated, and the mouth breather who called in without a hint of irony said "Yeah we probableh would have been relegated but Shakehhhh wuld av wunn that game wunt eh". Heard him in the car.

 

And thats the kind of fan youre up against, trying to win over. Ones that make lots of noise on the radio and on online forums, and think their warped view of football and the manager is the majority feeling because they think it.

 

I just love the selective memory people have. The one that forgets all the good performances under Puel and over exaggerates the bad ones, as means to prove they were right to reject him from the beginning. The ones that think Shakespeare is the new Alex Ferguson, because he shared a dressing room with Pearson and loved a good hoof. I wont even mention anything vaguely critical of Pearson either, as 10 foaming at the mouth loonies will instantly queue up to tell me he got us two promotions, he built the title winning team, hes the best manager the clubs ever had. Yadda Yadda i get it, I really get it. Its been said thirty million times. Its also in the past like Ranieri is, and no one is asking him to come back. And he won the Premier League.

 

Any Southampton fan that wants to come on here too, who cares about your opinion? you have a moron in charge and youll be in the championship next season playing Brentford. Bye Bye.

 

We have a group of people on here who didnt want Puel from the start. Theyd already judged him before he had done anything, and therefore will use anything they possibly can to justify why he should be sacked.

 

Regardless of the consequences of who comes in, what it does to us as a club, our reputation to other managers and players.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Johnthefoxrayner]

On 07/04/2018 at 17:45, Paddy. said:

Makes no sense to boot him out this early when we don't really know how good or bad he is. I'm surprised fans are so hungry for more upheaval.

Totally agree with you 

[Johnthefoxrayner]

On 07/04/2018 at 17:59, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

We had a whole midfield out with players that aren't puels and of the old regime.

 

I can't believe how stupid some of these fans are? 

 

You can't make a full judgement until he has had time to build his own side

Well said, 

[Bats8711]

I can honestly understand those who want him gone - these last couple months have been extremely frustrating on a game to game basis - but I think you have to give him a summer transfer window and offseason to implement his plan.

[fox_favourite]

Isn't football such a fickle and unstable profession to be in these days. Winning makes people love managers and players. losing everyone is public enemy number one and there's unrest, players unhappy, fans want everyone sacked. It's bonkers. 

 

I want stability more than anything. A run of a few seasons where we have the same manager, a steady squad and a decent seasons of finishing top 10 with some cup runs. I wouldn't say this season has been a disaster, 2 quarter finals (knock out by Chelsea and Man city isn't a disgrace) and hopefully at least a top 10 finish pushing for Europe. How many of you would have taken that at the beginning of the season? 

 

Give puel the summer. Get his players in hopefully have a stable season and good cup runs and push on again.

 

I for one is fed up of chopping and changing every six months. 

Edited 9 April 2018 by fox_favourite

[Pete from the USA]

Sack the manager! And then sack the next one, and then the next.

[Mark - Reading]

On 07/04/2018 at 17:54, Hugo Sanchez said:

The people voting in ? Do you actually turn up and have to watch this shite week in week out ? 

I honestly don’t think they do pal, They simply can’t be!

 

since the palace game in December and the fu@@ed up chance to make the semi of the league cup you would think he would have realised the chopping and changing has cost us dearly 

 

but it has continued and now we have f’d 7th place. We are extremely boring to watch and have won 5 in 15 and tbh Brighton should have had us buried by half time 

 

People say give him the summer but what for to bring in another 3 or 4 defensive players???

 

we can’t keep wasting money we have blown over £100m since winning the league and other than McGuire and Ndidi the rest have been shocking and don’t even get in the team 

 

Ill keep supporting them I have for 27 seasons but it’s getting harder and harder to get the energy to attend ?

 

[foxfanazer]

I’m getting pretty pissed off with the players downing tools everytime they don’t like a managers methods

[CosbehFox]

5 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

I’m getting pretty pissed off with the players downing tools everytime they don’t like a managers methods

Rumours are it’s not the normal bunch, you’d associate that with. 

[FrankieADZ]

wish I could vote for cant be bothered either way, kind of like some of the players attitude of late

[sylofox]

So the 40% will be holding west ham style demonstrations in the remaining home games will they.

[FrankieADZ]

1 minute ago, sylofox said:

So the 40% will be holding west ham style demonstrations in the remaining home games will they.

well that would be more entertaining than the football at times

 

in all honest though, id give Puel the summer and a couple of months next season(part of me is getting sick of us hiring and firing managers and the fact we could head up with Pardew or something), since you can see the direction he wants to take the team with the passing style but some of the players clearly cant cope with that(Simpson being one of them), 

[Monsell1976]

43 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

I’m getting pretty pissed off with the players downing tools everytime they don’t like a managers methods

Exactly, all these managers sacked, same players, who escape criticism.

 Time to get rid of the over paid, over rated, bang average prima donna’s, who down tools when a managers picks players or plays a way they don’t like.

[foxfanazer]

44 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said:

well that would be more entertaining than the football at times

 

in all honest though, id give Puel the summer and a couple of months next season(part of me is getting sick of us hiring and firing managers and the fact we could head up with Pardew or something), since you can see the direction he wants to take the team with the passing style but some of the players clearly cant cope with that(Simpson being one of them), 

Yeah that’s sort of where I am with it. If he can get the right personnel to implement his style I feel he can be judged accordingly. At the moment he should revert to what the players like Simpson etc can do

[KingKoala]

I would like the management to find better manager come the end of the season if they could find one.

If not, keep Puel.

I just want to see manager to be appointed with proper process, not during the season.

[Gerard]

I'm a big fan of Puel and don't understand this "boring football" criticism. Against Newcastle we were dreadful and there is no defending it but against Stoke, Swansea and Bournemouth we did enough to win all three of those games by a two goal margin,

 

Puel is trying to transition us into a passing team. Teams that don't want the ball will only ever go so far in the game. There is nothing wrong with having quick counter attacking football in your locker but if that's your main weapon you will struggle to break teams down when the onus is on you to beat them.

 

I see people on this thread have been moaning about Puel not spending in January to bring his type of players in. I would argue that it's the sign of a good manager who was reluctant to spend in January and only spent buttons on a young Ligue 2 player who is already ahead of Gray who we turned down £25m for in the summer. A poor manager never has enough money to spend but Puel was patient and kept his tinder dry.

 

I'd like to think that Puel has given the squad a chance to play his way and those reluctant or incapable will be attempted to be shipped out in the summer and replaced by more suitable personnel. 

[Christoph]

No point sacking him. We have lost games but we haven't really been battered by many teams since he has been in. I think you gotta give the guy a decent enough run. Most managers wouldn't have gave Chillwell a starting place and he is now starting to improve with more game time. He does give more players a chance compared to previous managers. 

 

The problem is our players aren't the best technically. Bar about 3 of them the rest are not comfortable on the ball against a team which presses us which makes his tactics a bit harder. I'd rather see him for at least another year or two just so were not going round and round with different managers. 

[Captain...]

13 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

I'd be gutted if the manager was to get sacked. I just don't want us to keep sacking managers, In Pearson's second spell I took pride in the fact that we gave him time to see out his vision even though he encountered difficult periods.To go though three managers in the space of a year and a half would make us look like an absolute joke. 

The difference was the players were clearly still playing for Pearson and the squad was behind him.

 

I don't want to see us sack  Puel, but I also don't want to see shite lacklustre performances at home. If he could just fire them up it would make all the difference, that's how we started out under Puel, playing good football but with an extra level of intensity. These players don't need to be taught how to pass sideways, we have a group of premier league winners, they know what it takes to win.

[Muzzy_no7]

IN.

 

We need to evolve and he can help us do that.

 

The work with the academy and training ground over the next few years are crucial as to how the club is shaped. Will we be a joke club in the QPR/Watford mould or actually build a long term Premier league club?

 

We need stability and to offload past-it players while bringing in quality while promoting better products through the ranks.

[RonnieTodger]

Honestly I ****ing despair at some of our fans. 40% out!!??

 

Are we just going to keep sacking managers until we get what some of you lot deserve and go down? Yeah the last few games have been shit, but that's football. You go on bad runs and you have some terrible matches, but honestly some of the morons that support this club are putting me off going, far more than the team do. The expectant atmosphere is pathetic and so is the way that you want a manager gone because we won't be in Europe next season. Puel is far from blameless and he's made some weird decisions, but we could easily have been one of the teams that appointed Allardyce, Moyes or Pardew or Mark Hughes if you look at what the last club to sack Puel are doing.

 

He's trying to change us into a team that is actually capable of keeping the ball instead of treating it like a bomb and if he's going to do it successfully, then he'll buy the right players in the summer. The only signing he's made is Diabate who was about £2m and already looks a bargain, so why wouldn't you give him a full transfer window? 

 

I'm not saying he's been fantastic, but he's definitely worth backing in the summer and having a full season next year.

[norwichfox]

In, but would like to see him use Appleton more to face the press interviews...or an option on the video to make the graphic speed keep up with the subtitles.