Watford post-match 2-0 Puel out chit-chat

[trabuch]

3 hours ago, gurru991 said:

It's funny that we take the piss when Wolves fans think that their club is better than it is but we are guilty of the same thing. People not happy with eighth place FFS.

We are a young club with a very bright future but some fans are just not happy with that.

Very true - but we did win the league. (sorry I just love saying that). But I love the way this club is moving. Some of the fans need to get a grip.

[yks]

32 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said:

You'll have to show me where I said awful all season. Extremely inconsistent all season maybe.

You said "first decent performance after being awful", maybe I don't understand what "first" mean...
Or maybe like all the Puel out fans, you carefully select the period which you find relevant to judge Puel, usually a bad one.

 

30 minutes ago, samlcfc1 said:

3 wins from the last 11 premier league games

But you would never do that, that would be horribly intellectually dishonest...

[Dan]

If we did that at home probably 2/3 times a season more often I don't think Puel would come under any pressure. A real breath of fresh air performance. We were improved in just about every department - we didn't stick rigidly to the slow build up and actually had some tempo in our game. Thought Maddison had probably his best game for us, Albrighton was excellent, Ricardo's really starting to come good and Mendy had another good game.

 

The elephant in the room is how much better defensively we look without Maguire. Morgan and Maguire has never truly worked for me. Morgan's actually looking back to his best. I thought he was always better along with Huth as Huth was the more commanding of the two. Maguire isn't really that kind of defender while Evans is probably a bit more like Huth.

 

I can't really knock anyone on their performance. Gray lacking in end product but he's getting into better positions more frequently and I do think his work rate's improved.

[trabuch]

Let's try this. Vichai wanted a manager that could bring through youth, build the club, get to a Europe place. Top knows this. Puel is doing the job.

[worthosoriginals]

1 hour ago, samlcfc1 said:

Only 2 goals conceded in our last 6 !

that's 2 too many, for a few of our so called fans. we should be above man city. not good enough.

[gurru991]

34 minutes ago, trabuch said:

Very true - but we did win the league. (sorry I just love saying that). But I love the way this club is moving. Some of the fans need to get a grip.

Have mistakes been made ? Sure they have but overall,  like you i like the direction the club is taking. The football on the field will improve as players continue to adapt & new players like Barnes and Benkovic come on board.

[trabuch]

3 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

Have mistakes been made ? Sure they have but overall,  like you i like the direction the club is taking. The football on the field will improve as players continue to adapt & new players like Barnes and Benkovic come on board.

Yes. yes yes.

[walkerleeds]

Morgan and Albrighton MOTM.

 

Puel out.

[mozartfox]

9 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Puel is notorious in France for being a “sit on it” type of a guy. I don’t like that approach personally but it can be effective. Ranieri turned us into a sound defensive unit that could grind out games and it worked out well. So expect to see more of it once we go ahead. 

‘sit on it’??   That is my ‘Rachel’ dream.....

[mozartfox]

3 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

Fully agree. I really thought this would be a happier place this evening, but it seems you just can't please some people 

FT a happy place?? C’mon get real.

[Deeg67]

This year is really the buildup, next season is going to be a potential big move. Massive experience this season for the youngsters with a taste of success, including the ones on loan. Adapting to a new style. I expect Harry to be sold next summer and a major investment to be made in a creative RW and a box to box midfielder, plus Benkovic and Barnes added to the squad. That could be a definite top-6 caliber squad.

 

And of course, even if it is the Puel out brigade will still be full-throated in their displeasure.

Edited 2 December 2018 by Deeg67

[sylofox]

3 hours ago, Larry_LCFC said:

You'll have to show me where I said awful all season. Extremely inconsistent all season maybe.

4 wins from the last 11 premier league games including 3 red cards and a -3 goal difference suggests to me that the system has been falling flat on its face.

 

We looked good today and something seemed to click but one swallow doesn't make a summer. We need to actually carry on playing with some bloody desire like we showed today.

Nothing clicked today at all. We played a team that wanted to play football. Unlike most of the teams that have come to the KP this season. Very hard to play against teams that camp out on the edge of the 18yard box. 

 

That's one of the reasons why our away form is better. 

[Babylon]

10 hours ago, dyanmark said:

Lads for weeks we have been messing around passing sideways at zero mph very few chances  and today we saw some solid urgent football that we know we have  the players to implement.Could be a decent season after a average start

Shots v Burnley 22

Shots v Brighton (with 10 men) 8

Shots v Cardiff 13

Shots v Watford 7

[ozleicester]

Just now, Babylon said:

Shots v Burnley 22

Shots v Brighton (with 10 men) 8

Shots v Cardiff 13

Shots v Watford 7

hilarious, goes to show how  results blinds thinking

[foxfanazer]

At least enjoy yourselves when we win for Christ’s sake or what’s the point? We had a strong game plan today and implemented it brilliantly. Yes Watford has chances but we’re not gonna get many games where we don’t allow the opposition some opportunities. Cheer up lads

[Stan]

10 hours ago, Countryfox said:

 

Good point.   Sorry for the delay but I was just rolling round on the floor for a bit ...   no one had touched me, just having a quick roll.

Yes, very clever.

 

You can still get hurt without the other player directly making contact. There's this thing called a football in between - it doesn't stop force.

[Stan]

9 hours ago, vanity said:

So are we satisfied with our point total from our last 5 fixtures, all of which were against bottom half clubs? 

 

West Ham 1-1 (13th in table)

@Cardiff 1-0 (16th)

Burnley 0-0 (18th)

@Brighton 1-1 (11th)

Watford 2-0 (10th)

 

9 points, only 5 at home, we clearly have a massive scoring issue at present, averaging a goal per game at the KP during that stretch (and overall as well). I think 9 points was probably the minimum acceptable for the squad over this stretch. The Burnley match really grinds, it was one we really should've won, that club has been awful this season and has given up a fuch-ton of goals, failing to score at home against them was shambolic.

 

On the other hand, we haven't lost since October 22, and we've allowed only 2 goals our last 6 games if you include the CC. Plus we had the helicopter crash, which undoubtedly diminished us to some extent. If we can keep up this defense, that wpuld be amazing, but watching the Watford game today, seemed they kept themselves off the score sheet rather thab us doing it.

 

I think next week @Fulham is a must win for Claude. After that we start a serious run of matches against quality clubs, quite likely Claude gets canned here if it is going to happen as points are going to be hard to come by. 7 of the next 12 are against top-6+Man U, all very losable, plus we get CP x2 which ravaged us the last couple times, and Wolves away and they are dying to hammer us. That is 10 of 12 very losable games imo, tho perhaps CP won't have our number the way they did last season, IDK. Not that we will lose them all, obv.

 

I suppose with this run of fixtures looming, I am pretty disappointed to have only gotten 9 out of the last 5 matches, beating crap teams like Burnley at KP at West Ham at KP are the reason we aren't comfortably top-6.

 

Just like last season , our failures against less talented teams look to keep us out of Europe. We absolutely must get a target man in the winter window, maybe an older proven goalscorer that the elite teams deem over the hill, someone we could pair with Vardy up top, maybe we switch to three at the back and slot him right in. Suddenly Albrighton's crosses would command total attention, and it would open up the defense a bit for Vards and our wings.

Seriously, mate; get a grip.

 

November was probably the most difficult month in the club's history.

[z-layrex]

5 out of 5. Well and truly paid them back at this point. Now we just need to relegate them.

[Stan]

8 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said:

Don’t know how many times we have to reiterate that the problem is not and has never been league position! Blimey 

So we could be playing wonderful football and in 20th place; then you'd be happy?

[Raj]

Really decent game. Great strike by madders.BUT if they had anyone lethal upfront they would have done. They missed some sitters!!! 

[Grebfromgrebland]

Watford were a bit suicidal with their tactics though weren't they? I mean who plays a high line against us anymore?

[elvisfmcfly]

1 hour ago, Stan said:

So we could be playing wonderful football and in 20th place; then you'd be happy?

No but its not all based on league position, the football just isn't great, lets see if we finish where we are now I ll begrudgingly hold my hands up and at least say he gave us a very good season, even if the football wasn't good. 

[murphy]

2 hours ago, z-layrex said:

5 out of 5. Well and truly paid them back at this point. Now we just need to relegate them.

Who?  Watford?

 

After that banner paid for by their own fans, I wish them all the best.

[Happy Fox]

Good performance by the whole team, Maddison goal was world class, hopefully he keeps his head down like Chilwell, and performs consistently now, and an England call up won’t be too far away.

 

Ricardo is a gem, he is a RB and is performing like one now, onwards and upwards.

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

Really decent game. Great strike by madders.BUT if they had anyone lethal upfront they would have done. They missed some sitters!!! 

You can't say that, your being negative, you need to get a grip and stop moaning etc etc ...