Newcastle (H) Post match thread

[surrifox]

The slightly worrying aspect of last nights debacle was that we came out second half with no obvious plan to change our approach just kept doing the same stuff badly . 

[Lionator]

6 hours ago, Chairman of the Bored said:

Hopefully that’s the last we see of Gray in a Leicester shirt. Get rid. Chilwell, £75m to Man City? Yes please. Macguire to Manu? Cheerio. Rodgers has a big building job to do. Shinji, Fuchs, Iheanacho, Gray, Ghezzal, Chilwell, Macguire all out. Many holes to fill. Wes our best player tonight, which says a lot about the rest of the team. The weekend was over before it had begun. Poor. 

This is such a ridiculous overreaction. It was a poor performance however the past few games have indicated that we do not need a massive overhaul and that would be the worst thing to do at this stage. Rodgers isn't a magician, we're not going to suddenly win every game, it will take time to fully implement his style on the team.  

[weller54]

6 hours ago, Chairman of the Bored said:

Hopefully that’s the last we see of Gray in a Leicester shirt. Get rid. Chilwell, £75m to Man City? Yes please. Macguire to Manu? Cheerio. Rodgers has a big building job to do. Shinji, Fuchs, Iheanacho, Gray, Ghezzal, Chilwell, Macguire all out. Many holes to fill. Wes our best player tonight, which says a lot about the rest of the team. The weekend was over before it had begun. Poor. 

Macguire for Celtic? 

[Grebfromgrebland]

The template to beat Leicester has been the same for the last 2 ½ seasons.

[La-li-lu-le-lo]

Let’s not get carried away though folks.... there’s still mountains of work to be done with this side, so this was bound to happen at some point. 

[jon1bc]

It is what it is. After only 10 mins it was clear how the game was going to pan out. I don't think we looked too bad and you have to give credit to Newcastle. Surely people realise that we can't win every game and to want MAGuire, Chilwell and Gray out has to be a joke

[Guest Manini]

9 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Why would you think otherwise....Puel was not the disaster some would have,and the team is in a rebuilding era,where players are still staking their claim.

Too many fans on here,trying to make out,all is so simple...This is football...a game that delivers automatically twists and turns...Trying to make believe one

knows better and have all the answers.....

Brendan Rodgers has just taken over,he has to see what his new wards can deliver....There isn't a magic wand that moulds a team and new managers immediately

Together.....

even so early..the same crap we have had to put up with all season,starts again....The trolls insisting on their pound of flesh,..blame..blame..blame!!!

what do you really expect at this stage....!!

Chill out mate 

[l444ry]

Seems that every time we turn in an under par attacking performance at home, we lose the game. Should have got a minimum of 0-0 last night. Happens too often and hopefully food for thought for Rodgers.

[Guest Col city fan]

6 hours ago, AKCJ said:

 

 **** me 

I’ll ignore the sarcasm and say again, Newcastle did not let us play last night. They were clearly well up for it, chased everything down, Rondon was a beast and they gave us no time. 

We were poor but that was in large part to the fact that Newcastle played exactly to their strengths.

This is why the Geordie fans love Rafa. They know, despite the limitations of his squad, he generally sees them safe every season.

It would be interesting even now to see how he did again at a club where he had proper dosh to spend.

[when_you're_smiling]

Some of the reactions around me to Ben Chilwell last night were beyond ridiculous.

 

It was like a flashback to when we had Alan Rogers back at left back. 

 

No, the bloke next to me, he’s not shit. He’s England’s first choice left back.

 

He could have put the ball in now and again quicker but how many headers was Vardy likely to win against the centre backs anyway? Newcastle wanted us to aimlessly punt the ball in so their defence could deal with it.

 

Edit - thought I’d posted in the Ben Chilwell thread, but still pretty much stands.

[weller54]

2 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I’ll ignore the sarcasm and say again, Newcastle did not let us play last night. They were clearly well up for it, chased everything down, Rondon was a beast and they gave us no time. 

We were poor but that was in large part to the fact that Newcastle played exactly to their strengths.

This is why the Geordie fans love Rafa. They know, despite the limitations of his squad, he generally sees them safe every season.

It would be interesting even now to see how he did again at a club where he had proper dosh to spend.

But where was the plan B Col?... 

OK, first half it was clear what their intent was and we needed a tactical change... 

But we came out in the 2nd half and nothing changed? 

That's a worry.. I thought Rodgers was supposed to be a clever tactician? 

We were so narrow throughout the 90 minutes.. Why? 

We needed more width, it wasn't rocket science! 

 

[Japanfox]

Woke up around 4am here in Japan and looked at the stats when it was still 0-0.   They had a better shot on goal difference to ours.   From then on I had a feeling we would lose........

 

Anyway don't lose the faith.   LTID

[jamesmilner]

As soon as 5 at the back was confirmed , he should've changed shape . I think Brendan missed the boat  with a lone striker, for far too long .

[l444ry]

15 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I’ll ignore the sarcasm and say again, Newcastle did not let us play last night. They were clearly well up for it, chased everything down, Rondon was a beast and they gave us no time. 

We were poor but that was in large part to the fact that Newcastle played exactly to their strengths.

This is why the Geordie fans love Rafa. They know, despite the limitations of his squad, he generally sees them safe every season.

It would be interesting even now to see how he did again at a club where he had proper dosh to spend.

Newcastle were very well organised as you say but Rafa did have a club with dosh when he was at Real Madrid. That didn't work out too well..  

[David Hankey]

Last night again proved we haven't got the players who can penetrate a massed defence. Rafa got his tactics absolutely right and we had no answer. Vardy poor, Maddison poor, Ndidi poor, Tielemans an off night, Gray never in it, Barnes, Chilwell & Pereira plenty of effort but little else and so we can claim we have saved another team from relegation.

[Stoopid]

Timely reality check;

We're a bang average Prem side. Almost the definition of one -

Ending the season around 10th

winning about as many as we lose-

Scoring about as many as we concede.

Players ok, but maybe about at their level, nothing remarkable.

Manager ditto.

Not a big club. Not a small club.

None of which bothers me. It's fine. I love Leicester. But the recent talk of top-6, fan-base growth (?) - all that struck me as deluded. 

Thinking things will be better in the future is another type of delusion. 

We've had our annus mirabilis. 

Anything else is just gravy.

(Be nice to win the FA Cup though!)

[Ricey]

It really surprised me how bad we were last night. It reminded me of that Brighton game a few days after we had won promotion and most of the players were hanging.

 

The decision making was appealing throughout, as was the movement. It was like the players were scared of getting the ball. All the more strange after such a good run of results.

 

This is the last ‘parked bus’ match of the season, so hopefully we can better prepare next season for these matches. I don’t think there’s any point in playing Ndidi in these matches and we must improve our wide players.

 

The wide players were the main issue last night. They see too narrow and made illogical runs all night. The result was our full backs seeing too much of the ball.

[PAULCFC]

9 hours ago, Bezzanator89 said:

 

 

It's not the size of the possession, it's how you use it. 

And we of all teams should know that!

[st albans fox]

18 minutes ago, Ricey said:

It really surprised me how bad we were last night. It reminded me of that Brighton game a few days after we had won promotion and most of the players were hanging.

 

The decision making was appealing throughout, as was the movement. It was like the players were scared of getting the ball. All the more strange after such a good run of results.

 

This is the last ‘parked bus’ match of the season, so hopefully we can better prepare next season for these matches. I don’t think there’s any point in playing Ndidi in these matches and we must improve our wide players.

 

The wide players were the main issue last night. They see too narrow and made illogical runs all night. The result was our full backs seeing too much of the ball.

Five years ago to the day !

 

we changed tactics second half because the wingers weren’t getting the ball quickly enough first half to be one on one .  So the wingers came inside to allow the full backs to overlap ......but all that did was contest the central areas and the wingers looked lost ...... poorly thought out tactical change and didn’t address the issue that Rafa had targeted wilf on the ball so he couldn’t dictate play from the pivot. Newcastle’s positional play put doubt into the players minds and they didn’t make the brave incisive passes between the lines that they had been recently. So it all looked very familiar from earlier in the season. 

 

As as I said last night, Brendan failed his fist real test. West Ham will probably allow us to play so should be better and the last three games are a different test entirely. 

[srex9]

48 minutes ago, Stoopid said:

Timely reality check;

We're a bang average Prem side. Almost the definition of one -

Ending the season around 10th

winning about as many as we lose-

Scoring about as many as we concede.

Players ok, but maybe about at their level, nothing remarkable.

Manager ditto.

Not a big club. Not a small club.

None of which bothers me. It's fine. I love Leicester. But the recent talk of top-6, fan-base growth (?) - all that struck me as deluded. 

Thinking things will be better in the future is another type of delusion. 

We've had our annus mirabilis. 

Anything else is just gravy.

(Be nice to win the FA Cup though!)

I feel this is a bit of a pessimistic post rather than a realistic one. I agree talk of breaking the top 6 was premature but long term, if any other team in the prem is going to do it, Leicester are on that list. Losing at home with a very inexperienced team...(what was the average age of our midfield?)...against a team fighting to save their lives isnt unheard of. They will learn from this. I for one still can't wait for what the future holds with the new training ground and additions to this young talented squad in the summer. These results will happen. 

[Gamble92]

11 hours ago, Kopfkino said:

Our lot turned up expecting to be able to play their game, own the pitch and when it wasn't going right there was nobody there that could drag us through. 

 

They turned up, worked hard, battled well and sneaked a goal. Fair play

This.

 

Too many players believing their own hype. Alot of technically good passes but no one with that final pass and no one prepared to stand up and be a match winner. 

[Sunbury Fox]

54 minutes ago, jamesmilner said:

As soon as 5 at the back was confirmed , he should've changed shape . I think Brendan missed the boat  with a lone striker, for far too long .

 The problem is that we don't have a decent second striker to throw on up front with Vards.....

[Countryfox]

 

Hmmmm ...   do really want to play in the Europa League next season ?? ....    do we really really really want to ????   Will it help us ? ...   is the squad good enough ..    at the moment ??????

 

Just asking ....

[LinekersApples]

1 hour ago, l444ry said:

Seems that every time we turn in an under par attacking performance at home, we lose the game. Should have got a minimum of 0-0 last night. Happens too often and hopefully food for thought for Rodgers.

It was a very good goal

[Clarkey123]

1 hour ago, weller54 said:

But where was the plan B Col?... 

OK, first half it was clear what their intent was and we needed a tactical change... 

But we came out in the 2nd half and nothing changed? 

That's a worry.. I thought Rodgers was supposed to be a clever tactician? 

We were so narrow throughout the 90 minutes.. Why? 

We needed more width, it wasn't rocket science! 

 

Apart from Marc, I honestly don’t think we have the players on the bench for a backup plan