lifted*fox Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 1 minute ago, Manini said: I think it’s a long term plan with what he wants to do here. our fans don't deal well with long-term plans. everything has to be RIGHT NOW otherwise we've not made any progress. middle-ground doesn't exist for some.
bfox Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Just now, Manini said: Slight exaggeration that isn’t? But you understand what I’m saying don’t you? I think a lot people put too much expectation on preseason, thinking that those 6 weeks Rodgers had with them was going to fix all the issues, it doesn’t work like that. I wouldn’t be worried if we still haven’t fully clicked by Christmas, I think it’s a long term plan with what he wants to do here. Apart from 5 or 6 teams most have fairly new managers don't they. Anyways, I agree BR has not been here that long. But I would be worried if we're playing shit football week after week until XMAS, this team has far too much talent to be that bad
foxfanazer Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 25 minutes ago, The Bear said: Agreed. Mixed feelings about that game as a draw is a decent result, but can't help feel we should have won it. Jota and Jimenez would usually finish one of those chances today. We restricted you to just one shot on target despite dominating possession which is our usual style of defensive counter play. Soyuncu for you and Boly for us the pick of the defensive displays on offer. Andre Mariner and Jon Moss are both utter pricks. Mariner especially shouldn't be allowed to ref either of our games as he supports a Midlands club (Villa I think). The foul count was 13:3 against us. Crazy the amount of stuff he let go, then punished incorrectly for both sides. I won't go on about the VAR decision. It's the new handball rule that is flawed not VAR. Accidental handball from point blank range shouldn't be punished, only if it goes straight in. Shit rule. Still, all in all, we're a point up on last season already and as has been mentioned already, none of the other teams around us have gained any ground. You're always full of excuses. Like a btec spurs fan
Farrington fox Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Bit negative. Need to use the flanks more. Final ball terrible all game. Room for improvement. Need Barnes out wide.
Guest Manini Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 2 minutes ago, bfox said: Apart from 5 or 6 teams most have fairly new managers don't they. Anyways, I agree BR has not been here that long. But I would be worried if we're playing shit football week after week until XMAS, this team has far too much talent to be that bad Yes I suppose. The football isn’t that bad though is it? Compared to some of the shit we’ve been served up over the years.
Claridge Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Poor team selection, Barnes must start, especially at home. Chilwell needs a right foot
ithuriel Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Had plenty of the ball and a few chances, Vardys miss was amazing but Wolves, after being out played in the first half sat deep and hit us on the break with long balls over the top. Being a big, physical side we got no joy from the numerous corners since we have few big guys to power the ball in.
Ted Maul Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 1 minute ago, ithuriel said: Bering a big, physical side we got no joy from the numerous corners since we have few big guys to power the ball in. That, and Maddison floating every single one to nobody at the back post.
The Bear Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 7 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: You're always full of excuses. Like a btec spurs fan What's your excuse for not having a shot on target until 83 mins, despite having 70% possession?
ithuriel Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 1 minute ago, Ted Maul said: That, and Maddison floating every single one to nobody at the back post. Well, he did put a couple of near post ones in and the Wolves defenders just gobbled them up, thing is, against big sides we are going to have to be more inventive with corners since we do get a fair few.
Ted Maul Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Just now, The Bear said: What's your excuse for not having a shot on target until 83 mins, despite having 70% possession? Probably not buying a decent winger, 3 transfer windows in a row. Next question...
FireFox Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Ndidi was fit, and Rodgers didn't have the balls to drop Hamza, nor Maddison, so we played a shit formation and got a shit result. #RodgersOut
foxfanazer Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 3 minutes ago, The Bear said: What's your excuse for not having a shot on target until 83 mins, despite having 70% possession? Erm we didn't hit the target...... We can admit to being largely poor in that game. You just want smoke blowing up your arse all of the time. Vardy chance was one of the biggest if not the biggest of the game
ithuriel Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Just now, The Bear said: What's your excuse for not having a shot on target until 83 mins, despite having 70% possession? We out played you football wise, only in the second half when you sat deep and hit long balls in to your very pacey forwards were you a real threat. Cant blame your team since that is your strength and it nearly worked but first half at times your players were all over the place. Bar the crappy score line, was a decent opener for both sides I guess.
Jimbo Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Thought we were fine today, controlled the tempo, Soyuncu passed his 1st test with a lot of pressure on the lad. Teilemans controlled the tempo. Our biggest problem was the same that has plagued us for the last 2 or 3 years and we're far too static in the final 3rd. Got in to good positions only for everyone to stand still. Went completely opposite to most, including I, thought it would. We were solid at the back and poor going forward. Praet, if or when he comes in may be the key to that changing, but we need more movement. Chilwell was massively disappointing today, hope it was early season rustiness because he looked like he really couldn't be bothered at times
foxfanazer Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 5 minutes ago, The Bear said: What's your excuse for not having a shot on target until 83 mins, despite having 70% possession? What's your excuse for playing like Burnley with all of your superstar players?
ealingfox Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Starting with 9 defensive players blimey, even Burnley don't do that
Hammo Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Wolves unlucky with VAR goal. We bossed game but pace of attacks was a bit ponderous and Puel-esque. Chilwell, Maddison and Perez were all repeatedly wasteful and would have been responsible for Wolves scoring on the counter attack but for the brilliant recovery work of Ndidi (my motm) and Soyuncu.
The Bear Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 I think Rodgers played two DMs today purely because we have a three man midfield who are good on the ball and can dictate play if you let them. He was trying to stifle any service to Jota/Jimenez and force us down the flanks. I actually think you'd benefit from a similar formation to what we played last season - 3-4-3 with two inside forwards playing just behind the main striker. Schmeichel Soyuncu - Evans - Benkovic Ricardo - Choudry - Tielemans - Chilwell Perez - Maddison Vardy It'd allow Perez/Maddison to play more centrally whilst still having the freedom to go wide if necessary, and also Pereira would benefit. I read he only got 2 assists in thr final 10 games after being moved back to full-back by Rodgers.
mozartfox Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Just now, foxfanazer said: What's your excuse for playing like Burnley with all of your superstar players? Good point.
foxfanazer Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Just now, The Bear said: I think Rodgers played two DMs today purely because we have a three man midfield who are good on the ball and can dictate play if you let them. He was trying to stifle any service to Jota/Jimenez and force us down the flanks. I actually think you'd benefit from a similar formation to what we played last season - 3-4-3 with two inside forwardsplaying just behind the nd the main striker. Schmeichel Soyuncu - Evans - Benkovic Ricardo - Choudry - Tielemans - Chilwell Perez - Maddison Vardy It'd allow Perez/Maddison to play more centrally whilst still having the freedom to go wide if necessary, and also Pereira would benefit. I read he only got 2 assists in thr final 10 games after being moved back to full-back by Rodgers. They were totally bypassed all game, you played long ball
martyn Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 3 minutes ago, ithuriel said: We out played you football wise, only in the second half when you sat deep and hit long balls in to your very pacey forwards were you a real threat. Cant blame your team since that is your strength and it nearly worked but first half at times your players were all over the place. Bar the crappy score line, was a decent opener for both sides I guess. Sounds familiar to fans of other teams circa 2015/2016
Marshall Cockney Fox Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 That formation only works if both full backs bomb on and stay wide. They then pull the oppos f/b and midfield into places that leaves gaps for us to exploit. That simply didn't happen today. Ricardo was too deep when getting possession and chillers was even deeper and perhaps still in Benidorm!!
smr Posted 11 August 2019 Posted 11 August 2019 Fair result really. Defensively I thought we played well although Chilwell was poor today. Soyuncu was terrific and got motm didnt he? Perez wasnt quite in the game, vardy hardly had any touches. Wilf played well breaking up their play and distribution was decent. Hamza pld well too. They are a decent team and played well defensively and are a threat with jota and jimenez. Atmosphere was decent. Tifosi looked good. Not bad getting a point as last season theyd have won that without VAR. I didnt notice the handball in real time. When they showed the replay I still didnt see anything lol!
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