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Merih Demiral

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55 minutes ago, Stadt said:

I don't see it happening; Cags and Evans are clearly first choice and I can't see us opting for three at the back. Evans isn't a spring chicken but has another 2 seasons left in him as a starting player. It doesn't make sense for Demiral to leave Juve because he isn't playing to play sporadically for us. We're not paying c. £40m for a centre back when we have 2 outstanding ones already. Obviously we need depth but he isn't a depth signing at all. 

Brendan’s said he wants the flexibility to play 3 at the back. He can do that by signing Demiral. Jonny Evans, with Demiral and Cags either side of him gives us a platform so when Jonny does hang up the boots, the Turkish lads can then take over and boss our back 4 together. 

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Merih Demiral is a tremendous player with great potential. He suits well in physical aspect of the EPL and has great desire to play in the Premier League. I would say a less expensive alternative would be Ozan Kabak of Schalke 04. IMHO, here is the comparison of these two center-backs, who are Turkish internationals, to LCFC's Caglar Soyuncu:

 

Merih Demiral and Caglar Soyuncu were discovered by Lucescu, the manager of Turkish NT at the time, prior to Euro 2020 qualifiers over two years ago. Demiral, two years junior of Soyuncu, has been the first choice for the CB position and he's played every minute of the 10 matches in the Euro 2020 while Soyuncu was usually a third option and alternated with Kaan Ayhan of Fortuna Dusseldorf for the second CB position in a 4-2-3-1 formation which Turkey has mostly utilized in the Euros.

 

After Merih Demiral has moved between a couple of youth rank teams, Fenerbahce in Turkey, and Sporting B in Portugal, he played for Turkish super league club Alanyaspor for the first period of last season. He, then, ended up in Serie A's Sassuolo in the January transfer window where he was immense and received high praise from clubs and pundits in Italy despite the fact he only played the second half of the season in Serie A at the age of 20. Some of the top clubs around Europe followed his progress but Juventus was quick to sign him though only after Juventus had already decided to bring Matthijs de Light in, who cost three times the value of Demiral. Meanwhile, Juventus paid twice the transfer fee for Demiral than Sassuolo paid to Alanyaspor. The price tag and the salary of De Light might have played a role why Demiral didn’t get much playing time for Juventus even though De Light hasn’t played exceptionally well at times.

 

Merih Demiral was superb at Sassoulo and flawless throughout the Euro 2020 matches for Turkey. In contrast, Caglar Soyuncu was error prone for Euro 2020 except in the last two important international games which he played after being regular in LCFC this season. Maybe, it was something to do with Soyuncu being a young and an inexperienced player at the time who spent the last year on the bench while Demiral was regular at Sassoulo. Anyhow, the roles have changed for the ongoing season. Soyuncu has been a regular player for LCFC, and Demiral has been mostly on the bench understandably except in the last month prior to winter break after his superb performance against Bayer Leverkusen in the European Champions League. Demiral has put on the MOTM performance in a star-studded Juventus FC in each game he played.

 

Following the Euro 2020, Turkish football fans were asked about the best performers in Turkish NT. After the manager, Merih Demiral was the unanimous choice of the fans, trailed by Roma's exciting young winger Cengiz Under. Caglar Soyuncu came 5th or 6th place among the players. However, Soyuncu's astounding performance in LCFC this season has allowed him to pair with Merih Demiral in the last two very important Euro games, away vs France (1-1), and home game vs Iceland (0-0). Turkey had 8 clean sheets out of 10 games, and conceded only 3 goals.

 

Demiral is taller, 6'3", so he is much better aerially. His timing, positioning, and reading of the game is excellent. He is as fast and even appears to be faster than Soyuncu. He is a "beast" in the defense. Even though he is only 21, he has leadership quality, and the fans love him for his tenacity. Sarri said of Demiral following the win against Sampdoria “he has this great positive energy that he transmits to his teammates." His teammates and the Turkish fans feel more at ease and less panicky when he is in the middle of the defense. He is a superb tackler though looks a little rough at times even though he generally avoids any card. Probably, the referees think it's only a fair play.

 

In comparison to Soyuncu, Demiral appears to be less technically gifted. I was annoyed by his horizontal and reverse passes in the past. Notwithstanding, as an understudy of Chiellini and Bonucci, he has exhibited he’s made improvement during his most recent performances with the Turkish NT and in the Champions League vs BLeverkusen, and in the Serie A matches. Another thing he improved greatly was that, unlike Soyuncu, he used to look more nervous with the ball in his feet under pressure in big games last year. Probably, that has partially contributed to reverse or parallel passes. That has completely gone since he has been at Juve bar his very first game which he played months ago. It shows he is a quick learner. On the other hand, his long forward straight and diagonal passes have been always pinpoint to the address, either finding his teammates running into the penalty area or are in the wide area. Although Demiral's passing accuracy is very high, he still might be inferior to Soyuncu in forward passing efficiently or silky and crafty Cruyff like moves Soyuncu exhibits quite often. Another quality to Demiral's game is his ability to score or provide assist through dead balls. He is more like VVD.

 

Ozan Kabak of Schalke FC is alternative to both Merih Demiral and Caglar Soyuncu. At 19, Kabak is another highly gifted center back whose qualities are at par with both players, Demiral and Soyuncu. Kabak is a product of Galatasaray. He was promoted to Galatasaray senior squad last year at the age of 18. He played only a dozen games and was immediately brought into Stuttgart during the January window last year. He was regular there and he scored a few goals as well. At the end of the season, Kabak was named the young rookie player of the year in Bundesliga at the age of 18. There was a clause in his transfer agreement that he would be allowed to transfer out if Stuttgart relegated, which he activated and Schalke 04 signed him. He was injured prior to the start of the season, when he return from his injury, he became regular in Schalke 04 since November. He scored and provided assists (I believe 3 goals+1 assist) in consecutive games. He was named the player of the month in November in Bundesliga at the age of 19 after playing a month of football following his recovery. Ozan Kabak is very technical, calm under pressure, excellent tackler, can dribble well and pass accurately, and a threat in dead ball possessions. His technique is similar to William Saliba. IMHO, he can even play a CDM position when needed. Though, he might not be as fast as the other two. Demiral's value has skyrocketed recently; mainly, it is due to his brilliant performances in the limited time with Juventus; and also, many top clubs are interested in him. On the other hand, Ozan Kabak may be valued a lot less at the moment.  

 

 

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According to reports, Leicester have identified Demiral as the ideal player to bring in during the January window, and made a £25m bid for the star.

The Turkish international has played just three times for Juventus in Serie A this season, having slipped down the pecking order after the arrival of Matthijs de Ligt.

Demiral, 21, has been left on the bench 14 times in the league and five times in the Champions League, and doesn’t appear any closer to getting into the team.

After a slow start to life in Italy, De Ligt has emerged as one of Juve’s best options at the back, having started 12 of 17 league games.

 

As a result, Demiral is seemingly no longer required by the Serie A champions, and could be on his way to Leicester.

Speaking after the Foxes dispatched of Wigan in the FA Cup on Saturday, Rodgers refused to discuss any potential bids.

“We know what we want to do this window and we'll try,” he said.

“We know we want to strengthen.

 

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From a Juventus fan:

 

Anything above 50 million euros is a fair price for us (not for who buys him) but we have no intention or need to sell him so he’s not going anywhere.
Nonetheless, it’s fun seeing people in the thread saying he’s as good as Ajax de Ligt when he hasn’t been as good as Juve de Ligt. His positioning is dreadful, and if he wasn’t exceptional from an athletic POV (really fast and great stamina) it would be impossible for him to start in anything but a low to mid table side. I wouldn’t pay more than what we paid for him to Sassuolo, but his potential is undoubtedly exceptional.

I think in pure terms of defensive ability (tackling, marking etc.) he’s not far off great players like Skriniar, but Skriniar’s positioning is infinitely better. I wouldn’t play Demiral in an high line for sure, a thing I can’t say for De Ligt or Bonucci.

 

I think he’s easily a champions league level player in terms of pure defensive ability, but his positioning lets him down so much it’s not even funny. He gets a lot of important tackles but if you actually watch the matches 90% of them are him getting ****ed by a through ball due to his poor positioning and having to run back and tackle the opposing striker. He’s great at it, but if that ball goes to someone with more pace than him then it’s a 1v1 with the keeper.

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1 minute ago, Al-aLondon-Foxile said:

That YouTube reel is frightening, the amount of jumping slide tackles worries me. His potential for cards looks high, and I have to agree with the post above that it’s due to his lack of positional sense. No doubting his athleticism tho, he’s ultra physical.

If we did sign him, at least we don't play Liverpool again. Salah and Mane would start falling over as soon as he looked at them 

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2 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

From a Juventus fan:

 

Anything above 50 million euros is a fair price for us (not for who buys him) but we have no intention or need to sell him so he’s not going anywhere.
Nonetheless, it’s fun seeing people in the thread saying he’s as good as Ajax de Ligt when he hasn’t been as good as Juve de Ligt. His positioning is dreadful, and if he wasn’t exceptional from an athletic POV (really fast and great stamina) it would be impossible for him to start in anything but a low to mid table side. I wouldn’t pay more than what we paid for him to Sassuolo, but his potential is undoubtedly exceptional.

I think in pure terms of defensive ability (tackling, marking etc.) he’s not far off great players like Skriniar, but Skriniar’s positioning is infinitely better. I wouldn’t play Demiral in an high line for sure, a thing I can’t say for De Ligt or Bonucci.

 

I think he’s easily a champions league level player in terms of pure defensive ability, but his positioning lets him down so much it’s not even funny. He gets a lot of important tackles but if you actually watch the matches 90% of them are him getting ****ed by a through ball due to his poor positioning and having to run back and tackle the opposing striker. He’s great at it, but if that ball goes to someone with more pace than him then it’s a 1v1 with the keeper.

Positioning doesn't worry me for a 21 year old defender. You can teach that, you can't teach physicality.

 

Not being as good as De Ligt also does not worry me. He's destined to be sensational for years and years.

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One thing that I do like is the fact that Soyuncu and Demiral clearly understand each others game.

 

Could be our own Vertonghen/Alderweireld type partnership.

 

Such an exciting time to be a City fan.

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In Italy it's said that we've made an improved offer for him (40 million, I guess Euros)

https://www.goal.com/it/amp/notizie/calciomercato-juventus-leicester-alza-posta-demiral-muro/tdydn5ou6ztb1v61ber7qh7tn?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=amp

 

And another from Italy:

https://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-mercato/2020/01/05-65163046/demiral_40_milioni_dal_leicester/

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19 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

One thing that I do like is the fact that Soyuncu and Demiral clearly understand each others game.

 

Could be our own Vertonghen/Alderweireld type partnership.

 

Such an exciting time to be a City fan.

Let's hope not :ph34r:

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6 hours ago, TimT said:

Merih Demiral is a tremendous player with great potential. He suits well in physical aspect of the EPL and has great desire to play in the Premier League. I would say a less expensive alternative would be Ozan Kabak of Schalke 04. IMHO, here is the comparison of these two center-backs, who are Turkish internationals, to LCFC's Caglar Soyuncu:

 

Merih Demiral and Caglar Soyuncu were discovered by Lucescu, the manager of Turkish NT at the time, prior to Euro 2020 qualifiers over two years ago. Demiral, two years junior of Soyuncu, has been the first choice for the CB position and he's played every minute of the 10 matches in the Euro 2020 while Soyuncu was usually a third option and alternated with Kaan Ayhan of Fortuna Dusseldorf for the second CB position in a 4-2-3-1 formation which Turkey has mostly utilized in the Euros.

 

After Merih Demiral has moved between a couple of youth rank teams, Fenerbahce in Turkey, and Sporting B in Portugal, he played for Turkish super league club Alanyaspor for the first period of last season. He, then, ended up in Serie A's Sassuolo in the January transfer window where he was immense and received high praise from clubs and pundits in Italy despite the fact he only played the second half of the season in Serie A at the age of 20. Some of the top clubs around Europe followed his progress but Juventus was quick to sign him though only after Juventus had already decided to bring Matthijs de Light in, who cost three times the value of Demiral. Meanwhile, Juventus paid twice the transfer fee for Demiral than Sassuolo paid to Alanyaspor. The price tag and the salary of De Light might have played a role why Demiral didn’t get much playing time for Juventus even though De Light hasn’t played exceptionally well at times.

 

Merih Demiral was superb at Sassoulo and flawless throughout the Euro 2020 matches for Turkey. In contrast, Caglar Soyuncu was error prone for Euro 2020 except in the last two important international games which he played after being regular in LCFC this season. Maybe, it was something to do with Soyuncu being a young and an inexperienced player at the time who spent the last year on the bench while Demiral was regular at Sassoulo. Anyhow, the roles have changed for the ongoing season. Soyuncu has been a regular player for LCFC, and Demiral has been mostly on the bench understandably except in the last month prior to winter break after his superb performance against Bayer Leverkusen in the European Champions League. Demiral has put on the MOTM performance in a star-studded Juventus FC in each game he played.

 

Following the Euro 2020, Turkish football fans were asked about the best performers in Turkish NT. After the manager, Merih Demiral was the unanimous choice of the fans, trailed by Roma's exciting young winger Cengiz Under. Caglar Soyuncu came 5th or 6th place among the players. However, Soyuncu's astounding performance in LCFC this season has allowed him to pair with Merih Demiral in the last two very important Euro games, away vs France (1-1), and home game vs Iceland (0-0). Turkey had 8 clean sheets out of 10 games, and conceded only 3 goals.

 

Demiral is taller, 6'3", so he is much better aerially. His timing, positioning, and reading of the game is excellent. He is as fast and even appears to be faster than Soyuncu. He is a "beast" in the defense. Even though he is only 21, he has leadership quality, and the fans love him for his tenacity. Sarri said of Demiral following the win against Sampdoria “he has this great positive energy that he transmits to his teammates." His teammates and the Turkish fans feel more at ease and less panicky when he is in the middle of the defense. He is a superb tackler though looks a little rough at times even though he generally avoids any card. Probably, the referees think it's only a fair play.

 

In comparison to Soyuncu, Demiral appears to be less technically gifted. I was annoyed by his horizontal and reverse passes in the past. Notwithstanding, as an understudy of Chiellini and Bonucci, he has exhibited he’s made improvement during his most recent performances with the Turkish NT and in the Champions League vs BLeverkusen, and in the Serie A matches. Another thing he improved greatly was that, unlike Soyuncu, he used to look more nervous with the ball in his feet under pressure in big games last year. Probably, that has partially contributed to reverse or parallel passes. That has completely gone since he has been at Juve bar his very first game which he played months ago. It shows he is a quick learner. On the other hand, his long forward straight and diagonal passes have been always pinpoint to the address, either finding his teammates running into the penalty area or are in the wide area. Although Demiral's passing accuracy is very high, he still might be inferior to Soyuncu in forward passing efficiently or silky and crafty Cruyff like moves Soyuncu exhibits quite often. Another quality to Demiral's game is his ability to score or provide assist through dead balls. He is more like VVD.

 

Ozan Kabak of Schalke FC is alternative to both Merih Demiral and Caglar Soyuncu. At 19, Kabak is another highly gifted center back whose qualities are at par with both players, Demiral and Soyuncu. Kabak is a product of Galatasaray. He was promoted to Galatasaray senior squad last year at the age of 18. He played only a dozen games and was immediately brought into Stuttgart during the January window last year. He was regular there and he scored a few goals as well. At the end of the season, Kabak was named the young rookie player of the year in Bundesliga at the age of 18. There was a clause in his transfer agreement that he would be allowed to transfer out if Stuttgart relegated, which he activated and Schalke 04 signed him. He was injured prior to the start of the season, when he return from his injury, he became regular in Schalke 04 since November. He scored and provided assists (I believe 3 goals+1 assist) in consecutive games. He was named the player of the month in November in Bundesliga at the age of 19 after playing a month of football following his recovery. Ozan Kabak is very technical, calm under pressure, excellent tackler, can dribble well and pass accurately, and a threat in dead ball possessions. His technique is similar to William Saliba. IMHO, he can even play a CDM position when needed. Though, he might not be as fast as the other two. Demiral's value has skyrocketed recently; mainly, it is due to his brilliant performances in the limited time with Juventus; and also, many top clubs are interested in him. On the other hand, Ozan Kabak may be valued a lot less at the moment.  

 

 

Sorry mate but we haven’t even been linked with him so what on earth was the point in all that lol

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24 minutes ago, North Leeds Fox said:

If we have upped our bid to 40m euros, that is one hell of a statement from us. Would be a record signing and one that we seem sure on. Fairplay to rudders and co for being so decisive. 

Apparently Dortmund had a 40m Euro bid rejected already 

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