3 Players Show Signs/Symptoms of Coronavirus

[Zear0]

They're all off until 25th. Let them go back to see families. 

[Foxxed]

8 hours ago, dylanlegend said:

It’s all about money and keeping the economy going for as long as possible. From videos I’ve seen with people with the virus, this herd mentality thing is bollocks, if we carry on the NHS will no way be able to cope; 30 / 40 year olds in intensive care- even if they survive they’ll have poor lung function for the rest of their lives. We should be in lockdown now. The world just unite and just shut for 3-6 months. Postpone mortgage payments; government help for bills etc, postpose as many bills as possible. China have gone extreme with this because they are the ones that knows fully what’s going on. Desperate times. 

A choice between lockdown + waiting for a vaccine or temporarily increased GDP + dead relatives. Guess what the gov chose.
 

Even the British immunology society are calling it reckless  https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-open-letter-government-sars-cov-2-outbreak-response The gov rode to power on the back of attacking experts though.

 

These three players are more responsible than the entire gov. 

Edited 15 March 2020 by Foxxed

[foxoffderby]

Wes, Gray and Mendy

[st albans fox]

6 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

A choice between lockdown + waiting for a vaccine or temporarily increased GDP + dead relatives. Guess what the gov chose.
 

Even the British immunology society are calling it reckless  https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-open-letter-government-sars-cov-2-outbreak-response The gov rode to power on the back of attacking experts though.

 

These three players are more responsible than the entire gov. 

You’re assuming a lot with your comments 

 

what I’m sure of is that experts will always disagree with one another. I’m confident that the government are not keen on their elderly relatives dying, especially given that the pensioners out there make up the majority percentage wise of their support base. 

 

whilst I’m unsure of the timescales being reliable, I don’t yet see the govt strategy as being as poor as is being made out by many. 

 

I suspect their main idea is to try and avoid a second surge of cases in the autumn so we have to go through the whole thing twice. the Italian death numbers today are shocking but I fear that we may struggle to avoid ... we are currently two weeks behind their numbers. 

 

the pre suggestions of what’s coming seems to be deliberate to allow us to get used to stuff

 

on Monday they said in 10/14 days we would be asked to self isolate for a week if we had any cold symptoms at all

 

three days later that become policy

 

today they spoke about the over 70’s and vulnerable isolating for months ..... are we looking at that becoming policy later this week ???
 

 

[foxinsocks]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

 

 

today they spoke about the over 70’s and vulnerable isolating for months ..... are we looking at that becoming policy later this week ???
 

 

Yes this will by policy by tomorrow evening

[foxinsocks]

Last Wednesday player unions and clubs were moaning about the difficulties of playing with no fans... 2 days later half the pl couldn't field a team..

This just show how the blazers focus on the wrong thing.  Football is no worse than other areas... but I thought it was a useful example of not seeing the train coming

[murphy]

Sad to see so much cynicism here which I strongly suspect is based on people's party political persuasions.

[Foxxed]

12 minutes ago, murphy said:

Sad to see so much cynicism here which I strongly suspect is based on people's party political persuasions.

Is not cynicism to do with what might happen. Its the feeling of disgust on knowing what is happening. I was also not a cheerleader of the gov before.

[Walshy5]

On 14/03/2020 at 21:29, Foxxed said:

Is there any proof immunity will happen?

 

Or are we putting economic activity before the lives of the elderly?

Yep. It's what you get with a capitalist government. Socialism ideology in a crisis or capitalist? I know what I'd rather have.

[MonmoreStef]

We’d already be bankrupt and in trouble prior to this problem with a socialist government mind. The good old socialists bless them. The jealous people who blame their own lack of success on anything other than their own lack of ability. Brilliant at telling us how it should be done whilst looking at how far into their overdraft they are and what their minimum credit card payment is this month. 

[Guybino]

16 minutes ago, MonmoreStef said:

We’d already be bankrupt and in trouble prior to this problem with a socialist government mind. The good old socialists bless them. The jealous people who blame their own lack of success on anything other than their own lack of ability. Brilliant at telling us how it should be done whilst looking at how far into their overdraft they are and what their minimum credit card payment is this month. 

 

Finland, Sweden and Norway seem to be doing alright..

 

In fact, all the Scandinavian countries appear to be just fine! 

Edited 16 March 2020 by Guybino

[NaijaFox]

2 hours ago, MonmoreStef said:

We’d already be bankrupt and in trouble prior to this problem with a socialist government mind. The good old socialists bless them. The jealous people who blame their own lack of success on anything other than their own lack of ability. Brilliant at telling us how it should be done whilst looking at how far into their overdraft they are and what their minimum credit card payment is this month. 

Dude, Trump filed for bankruptcy SIX times. Bankruptcy obviously is part of capitalism. 

 

Capitalism has been very generous to me personally (and I do not regard myself of necessarily possessing any more innate "ability" than those less materially fortunate), but not enough to blind me to the fact that my bulge-bracket employers benefit from SOCIALIST bailouts while the working class lose their mortgage. Please put down the Kool-Aid!

[Deeg67]

An expert weighs in on BoJo's high-risk COVID-19 strategy:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/15/uk-covid-19-strategy-questions-unanswered-coronavirus-outbreak

[Aus Fox]

10 hours ago, foxoffderby said:

Wes, Gray and Mendy

I hope you’re wrong, we all know the impact this can have on the elderly. 

[Facecloth]

6 hours ago, Guybino said:

 

Finland, Sweden and Norway seem to be doing alright..

 

In fact, all the Scandinavian countries appear to be just fine! 

Scandinavia is actually Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Denmark is in lockdown.

[st albans fox]

6 hours ago, Guybino said:

 

Finland, Sweden and Norway seem to be doing alright..

 

In fact, all the Scandinavian countries appear to be just fine! 

They have smaller populations than us 

 

They’re testing far more people so looks like they have more cases per head which they don’t 

 

across the region, they have approx 6 deaths thus far.  

 

there are many reasons why the virus may spread more slowly in some countries 

 

we shall see over the next week or so how the number of fatalities increases in comparison to the rest of Europe - I expect would be slower 

[Captain...]

On 14/03/2020 at 21:29, Foxxed said:

Is there any proof immunity will happen?

 

Or are we putting economic activity before the lives of the elderly?

I'm no fan of this government but it is an impossible situation. It may seem callous putting economic activity ahead of the lives of the elderly and vulnerable, but how many lives will be lost/ruined in the event of a recession. Suicide rates increase dramatically in a recession as well as health issues arising from poverty.

 

There is no right answer and these decisions are not being taken lightly. The virus is only one aspect of it, the economic and societal impact of any measures need to be considered. What benefit are extreme measures if they deal with the virus but cripple the economy for years.

 

[everton carr]

Out of the 35 that have sadly died all had health issues 5 were over 90 12 over 80 Only 1 under 60 Nick Matthews who had been in and out of hospital his entire life and was over 22 stone.Lets keep calm guys

 

[StanSP]

8 hours ago, MonmoreStef said:

We’d already be bankrupt and in trouble prior to this problem with a socialist government mind. The good old socialists bless them. The jealous people who blame their own lack of success on anything other than their own lack of ability. Brilliant at telling us how it should be done whilst looking at how far into their overdraft they are and what their minimum credit card payment is this month. 

What a load of bollocks. 

[Dahnsouff]

8 hours ago, Walshy5 said:

Yep. It's what you get with a capitalist government. Socialism ideology in a crisis or capitalist? I know what I'd rather have.

Capitalism is flawed.

Socialism is flawed.

To suggest anything else is willfully ignoring an agenda on one side or the other.

 

[Wolfox]

9 hours ago, murphy said:

Sad to see so much cynicism here which I strongly suspect is based on people's party political persuasions.

Agreed Dave…. As you well know, I’m no Tory fan, but suggest that motives for anything being done currently are not purely centered around health is just a bit weird…. I hope they’re getting it right and I’m sure they do to…

[Vlad the Fox]

15 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Capitalism is flawed.

Socialism is flawed.

To suggest anything else is willfully ignoring an agenda on one side or the other.

 

True. But together they work better, like a stubborn married couple, curtailing the extremes of each other. 

[Dahnsouff]

11 minutes ago, Vlad the Fox said:

True. But together they work better, like a stubborn married couple, curtailing the extremes of each other. 

Both are quite old and if they have to self isolate together, they may both be doomed real soon.

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, everton carr said:

Out of the 35 that have sadly died all had health issues 5 were over 90 12 over 80 Only 1 under 60 Nick Matthews who had been in and out of hospital his entire life and was over 22 stone.Lets keep calm guys

 

Increasingly easy to sweep over it like that. Reported this morning that one gentlemen went in hospital six weeks ago with a stroke. He got the virus whilst in hospital. Couldn't fight it as he was in recovery as opposed to an 'underlying issue'. Was only tested for coronavirus post death. 

[Suzie the Fox]

2 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Scandinavia is actually Norway, Sweden and Denmark. Denmark is in lockdown.

Norway is too and has been for a few days now