Coronavirus Thread

[ozleicester]

4 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

 

[leicesterlad1989]

1 hour ago, simFox said:

Her immune system seemed to work the first time she had it?

 

It is my undertanding you can still catch it and spread it on, vaccine just stops you from dieing. Seeing as Covid only kills 0.05% of the people it infects and the vaccine is only 90% effective. Lets hope she's not in the 10%

 

 

Even if she's in that 10% there's still not guarantee she would die. By having the vaccine the chances of death haven't gone from 0.05% (your stat) to 10%. Statistically speaking the vaccine is more likely to prolong her life than not having it at all.

[kingfox]

To see @Wymsey post, along with this article is quite staggering and extremely sad, this seems to have been the norm for the last three months.

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/shocking-figures-reveal-least-one-4910182

 

Leicester’s cases still really aren’t falling either, thought we’d start seeing some effect by now, yet daily cases keep yo-yoing around the 200-300 mark, and I have no idea what the people of Hamilton are doing, surely there’s more to it with their spike in cases.

Edited 21 January 2021 by kingfox

[dsr-burnley]

2 hours ago, simFox said:

Her immune system seemed to work the first time she had it?

 

It is my undertanding you can still catch it and spread it on, vaccine just stops you from dieing. Seeing as Covid only kills 0.05% of the people it infects and the vaccine is only 90% effective. Lets hope she's not in the 10%

 

 

The aspect of her immune system that remembers previous invaders and knows how to block them wasn't tested first time round.

 

If Covid kills 0.05% of who it infects, then 180 million people should have had the disease to reach 90,000 deaths.  I think your decimal place is misplaced.  Or mine is, but I have tried to check thoroughly!

 

It is unlikely that you can still spread covid if you are immune with the vaccine.  This vaccine works like most vaccines in that it stop the virus multiplying like wildfire inside the body.  With most viruses, the less you have in the body, the less likely you are to pass it on.  They haven't yet been able to test whether this virus is like other viruses in that way, but early talk about viral loads suggest that it is.  

[Guest Harrydc]

How does no one know if this vaccine will stop transmition? Wasn't it supposed to be vigorously tested?

[Nalis]

Dont want to sound too negative but it will be very difficult to decide when to lift restrictions if factoring in the vaccination of the vulnerable.

 

Complete ballpark figures but an increase in cases usually meant an increase in hospitalisations in two weeks time, followed by an increase in deaths two weeks after that.

 

So we've always looked at the cases figures and made adjustments on restrictions accordingly to protect hospitals.

 

Now that fewer people will be hospitalised given the vaccination programme of protecting the eldery and vulnerable first (thats the theory anyway), how should we assess when we should lift restrictions in the future? Might be too late if looking at hospitalisations alone but might be jumping the gun if basing it on cases alone.

 

 

[Izzy]

Just got the text to book my first vaccination.

 

Piece of piss, took 2 mins to do and all sorted for Monday.

 

Very impressed with the process.

[Countryfox]

1 minute ago, Izzy said:

Just got the text to book my first vaccination.

 

Piece of piss, took 2 mins to do and all sorted for Monday.

 

Very impressed with the process.

Obviously not an age thing so you must have an underlying condition ..   is it telling crap jokes ? ...    

[filbertway]

17 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Dont want to sound too negative but it will be very difficult to decide when to lift restrictions if factoring in the vaccination of the vulnerable.

 

Complete ballpark figures but an increase in cases usually meant an increase in hospitalisations in two weeks time, followed by an increase in deaths two weeks after that.

 

So we've always looked at the cases figures and made adjustments on restrictions accordingly to protect hospitals.

 

Now that fewer people will be hospitalised given the vaccination programme of protecting the eldery and vulnerable first (thats the theory anyway), how should we assess when we should lift restrictions in the future? Might be too late if looking at hospitalisations alone but might be jumping the gun if basing it on cases alone.

 

 

I think it'll be very gradual up till April, once April/May hits and we start getting better weather, I think we'll see restrictions loosened on a weekly basis. Last year has already shown that transmission is very low in the summer despite people being able to meet up and socialise

[Countryfox]

Having ginger hair ...  

[Izzy]

1 minute ago, Countryfox said:

Obviously not an age thing so you must have an underlying condition ..   is it telling crap jokes ? ...    

Ho ho ho!

 

Yes I'm under 70 but got an autoimmune disease so part of the critically vulnerable group. Feels weird getting the jab before my parents who are both in their 70's, but pleasing none the less 

[leicsmac]

29 minutes ago, Harrydc said:

How does no one know if this vaccine will stop transmition? Wasn't it supposed to be vigorously tested?

It was tested vigorously, and the answer is that the question isn't of all that much consequence.

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccines-need-not-completely-stop-covid-transmission-to-curb-the-pandemic1/

[MattFox]

Glastonbury cancelled again this summer.

 

Might be a bit premature but suggests to me we won’t be having mass gatherings first half of this year 😔

[Jimothy]

35 minutes ago, Izzy said:

Ho ho ho!

 

Yes I'm under 70 but got an autoimmune disease so part of the critically vulnerable group. Feels weird getting the jab before my parents who are both in their 70's, but pleasing none the less 

But does not having a soul protect you from the virus anyway?

[DennisNedry]

10 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Glastonbury cancelled again this summer.

 

Might be a bit premature but suggests to me we won’t be having mass gatherings first half of this year 😔

Maybe not mass gatherings, but I'm sure restrictions on visiting family and friends will be lifted.

[ealingfox]

After March, if they are even close to hitting vaccination targets, it will be very hard to justify this awful bollocks continuing.

[Leicester_Loyal]

'If one of your parents is invited for the jab, but the other one isn't, tell them to ask about them both being done at the same time.

I'm sure it will depend on who is organising the jabs, but I know four sets of over 70s where one was invited first because of health issues. In all cases they explained that they would prefer to only leave the house once rather than twice and the appointments were rearranged to allow for both doing together.'

 

From another forum, this might be relevant to a few on here

[StanSP]

8 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

'If one of your parents is invited for the jab, but the other one isn't, tell them to ask about them both being done at the same time.

I'm sure it will depend on who is organising the jabs, but I know four sets of over 70s where one was invited first because of health issues. In all cases they explained that they would prefer to only leave the house once rather than twice and the appointments were rearranged to allow for both doing together.'

 

From another forum, this might be relevant to a few on here

Does this not take a vaccine away from someone who is in line with the priority groups? 

[Leicester_Loyal]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

Does this not take a vaccine away from someone who is in line with the priority groups? 

I guess that could be the case tbh. The over 70s is still classed as a priority group though, I think they're just offering it to over 70s with worse health first before going onto the 'healthier' people. They'll only be getting the vaccine themselves within the next couple of weeks, so might just be easier to do them both at the same time, especially if you've got to organise transportation etc.

[Izzy]

37 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

But does not having a soul protect you from the virus anyway?

I've just booked a holiday for myself to Marbella in March. Hopefully the wife won't have had her jabs by then so guess I'll have to go on my own.

 

 

 

Edited 21 January 2021 by Izzy

[stripeyfox]

2 minutes ago, Izzy said:

I've just booked a holiday for myself to Marbella in May. The wife won't have had her jabs by then so guess I'll have to go on my own.

 

 

 

that's the decent thing to do mate....

[Jimothy]

5 minutes ago, Izzy said:

I've just booked a holiday for myself to Marbella in March. The wife won't have had her jabs by then so guess I'll have to go on my own.

 

 

 

[Alf Bentley]

16 minutes ago, Izzy said:

I've just booked a holiday for myself to Marbella in March. Hopefully the wife won't have had her jabs by then so guess I'll have to go on my own.

 

 

 

 

Presumably most of the others in Marbella will be vaccinated pensioners?

 

Are elite sportspeople a priority group for vaccination? If so, you and Wayne Rooney could clean up in a grab-a-granny bonanza week. 

[Chrysalis]

I see its happening again, national average on a steady downward curve, Leicester figures on the rise.

 

https://www.leicester.gov.uk/your-council/coronavirus/coronavirus-in-leicester-latest-news/coronavirus-data-for-leicester/

[Tommy G]

Various news outlets reporting the R number will never dip below 1 even when the majority of the population is vaccinated. Not sure where to go with this but cant see anything getting any better anytime soon. Absolute guarentee in the next few weeks to see that the vaccines wont protect against a mutated strain - either Brazil, Kent or South Africa