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Tottenham Hotspur (A) pre match

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shailen

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I don't mind going 5 at the back for this one. They're the best team in the league on the counter and we cannot leave space in behind for Son and Kane as we will be punished. Having Evans back for this one will be a big help and I thought N'didi actually did well so I'd keep him at CB. Mendy, Tielemans and Praet in midfield with Barnes and Vardy up top. 

 

They will try and suck us in to press them but a fairly deep low block is needed in this one to stop them from running riot. The teams they've struggled against this season (Everton, Newcastle and Palace) all did the same and managed to get something from the game. 

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Paninistickers

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Inexoect the same sort of turgid negative Performance  we dished out at arsenal....which, of course, worked out beautiful.

 

I wonder if a surprise is in store though and whether Amartey or Soyuncu will be back? Both are training. We are desperate for some relief. And both give us thay extra bit of height and muscle we've been desperately missing (inthought btw we dealt with set pieces v well v Everton) 

 

If so, a more robust team could be:

 

Schmikes 

Castagne 

Justin 

Evans

Lil Wes

Amartey?

 

Wilf

Tielemans

 

Praet

Madders

Vards

 

 

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Clever Fox

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13 hours ago, Raw Dykes said:

Well, it's certainly thinking outside the box!

 

I think we're struggling for centre-halves as it is. I don't think there's much benefit from shifting any of them into midfield.

 

You're right - Amartey can play central midfield, but he hasn't impressed whenever he has played there for us. He has looked good at RB and CB, though. I'm hoping he can get fit and in contention, because I think he could be a very useful squad player for us in defence.

 

I think Fofana looks like he could be one of the best CBs in the world one day if this is him as a teenager. I don't think he's a midfielder or that we should be looking to convert him into one.

 

What you're saying about breaking up play in front of the defence makes sense, but I don't think a more defensive player alongside Wilf in midfield would work in practice. We've seen it before with Puel's double pivot of Ndidi and Mendy. We struggled to move the ball forward, and they both got in each other's way. I think Ndidi works best patrolling that area on his own, plus it means we can use another attacking player.

 

Ndidi and Tielemans kind of play in a double pivot sometimes, but I think this works better because of Youri's creativity. We're better able to find a way forward as a result.

 

I do agree that the midfield could use a bit more nastiness, though. It is too 'nice' at times. Difficult problem to deal with, though, because I wouldn't want to replace any of Ndidi, Tielemans or Maddison. I guess if it was up to me, I'd be looking for an experienced, midfield general type of player as an option from the bench. Might have to be someone near the end of their career. Another Cambiasso, really.

Yes, maybe it is thinking outside the box but that's what do when your losing games, try and find a solution.

The best teams are built from the back that's not going to change anytime soon before it's easier to shut out teams than score. 

NDiddi on his own doesn't work against the better teams and the ball moves quicker than any players. As he can't be on both side of the pitch at once which causes an unbalance.

Tielemans is an excellent ball player but there's a reason he couldn't get into the Monaco team.

I suspect it was because he didn't offer enough defensively.

We do need more pace and nastiness in there to win those 50/50s which is why you need NDiddi and another protecting each channel both left and right side.

Then turn over play you're starting attacks from close to the half way line. With the Full backs pushing on your making more angles and width in advanced positions  and smother the opposition. Or relaease Vardy early.

 

Amartey needs to get back playing first but he is strong and quick like NDiddi and with a few sessions on the training ground could step in and do a job.

Likewise Fofana has youth on his side and I think could also do a job there. He's certainly comfortable with the Ball at his feet.

If he can fill that role he still has plenty of time to move back to CB as many other players have done before.

It would also help Brendan in that who does he leave out of CB when Evans, Soyuncu and Fofana are available. This way he keeps the senior players happy and makes the team defensively stronger.   

A Defensive unit made up of      Ricardo, Evans Soyuncu Castagna

                                                               Fofana            NDiddi 

Supporting the Attack of                                       Youri

                                                           Under   Vardy    Barnes

 

I would see this as a very formidable Team to play against. But there are other combinations of the forward players that could be used using Maddison, Perez Praet.

Of course we could sign another M/F to do that job, but I don't see that happening unless someone leaves. Which is unlikely.

So presently the dilemma is still the same, how do we win these games, and I think the problem will still be there after Sunday. 

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10 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I can understand the need to build from the back...!!!

I believe the back four takes care of itself, the Midfield is an area where we fall down and with Wilf in there we do need someone else to play along side of him, and Diallo is the player, I would elect to take up the role. He is classed as a defensive midfielder but he is more than that, more like Wilf with better passing, vision, can carry the ball and no one pushes him off the ball and plays at a good tempo. He leads by example, and that's something we have been crying out for now for sometime.

    The only problem is moving further up the pitch and we need to make a decision regarding Tielemans and Maddison, one will have to drop to the bench while the other is a support for Vardy. The Wingers are either pushed forward to make a three or stay alongside the Defensive Midfielders to make up the four. Can Tielemans play that high or do we opt for Maddison where he would be more or less in the role that suits him.

Yes, We have a terrific back four and reserves. It is Midfield is the problem. No one player can do it all on his own. The games is just to fast.

This lad Diallo sounds exactly what we need. I haven't seen him who does he play for.?

When we fill that void we'll stop conceding a lot of Goals and the team will be the better for it.

I've suggested trying Fofana in there because he's the nearest along with Amartey to what we need. When Soyuncu is back to partner Evans.

 

Yes also, Further up the pitch is where Brendan has a problem fitting 3 into 2 or even 1 if we went with 3 up top. You could even throw Perez into that conundrum. But that's one Brendan is going to have to sort out. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1 or 2 of them go in the Summer and someone like what we need brought in.

But for now we need to try something to change results in these bigger games.  

 

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No one expected us to beat Man City and look how that turned out! Knowing us we will win this and then lose to someone we should beat. Timmy back is massive and would love Cags back for boxing day.

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27 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

True but his role in that game was to be a traffic cone and just stand on the edge of the D ...... not hurtle up and down the touch line, putting stress on that hammy .....

True, if he’s fit too be good to have him back. Did well in his games before his hamstring and gives more options in defence with lots of games over the next 3 weeks 

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6 minutes ago, sdb said:

I'm seeing a rusty Amartey being absolutely murdered by Kane and Son

Tend to agree. Poor Dan always seems to he chucked in at the deep end though. MAN u away first game of season, penalty after 1 minute. No game for 2.5 years, here you go Dan, you're  playing Man City away. 

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4 hours ago, Fox85 said:

I dont know about any of you lot but im really worried Kane is going to injure one of our players with his cheating backing in move.

 

The first opponent that sees it coming and decides to land with his full weight on Kane’s neck, will put his horse face four inches deep into the turf.  And that will be the last time he tries it.

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4 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

Yes, maybe it is thinking outside the box but that's what do when your losing games, try and find a solution.

The best teams are built from the back that's not going to change anytime soon before it's easier to shut out teams than score. 

NDiddi on his own doesn't work against the better teams and the ball moves quicker than any players. As he can't be on both side of the pitch at once which causes an unbalance.

Tielemans is an excellent ball player but there's a reason he couldn't get into the Monaco team.

I suspect it was because he didn't offer enough defensively.

We do need more pace and nastiness in there to win those 50/50s which is why you need NDiddi and another protecting each channel both left and right side.

Then turn over play you're starting attacks from close to the half way line. With the Full backs pushing on your making more angles and width in advanced positions  and smother the opposition. Or relaease Vardy early.

 

Amartey needs to get back playing first but he is strong and quick like NDiddi and with a few sessions on the training ground could step in and do a job.

Likewise Fofana has youth on his side and I think could also do a job there. He's certainly comfortable with the Ball at his feet.

If he can fill that role he still has plenty of time to move back to CB as many other players have done before.

It would also help Brendan in that who does he leave out of CB when Evans, Soyuncu and Fofana are available. This way he keeps the senior players happy and makes the team defensively stronger.   

A Defensive unit made up of      Ricardo, Evans Soyuncu Castagna

                                                               Fofana            NDiddi 

Supporting the Attack of                                       Youri

                                                           Under   Vardy    Barnes

 

I would see this as a very formidable Team to play against. But there are other combinations of the forward players that could be used using Maddison, Perez Praet.

Of course we could sign another M/F to do that job, but I don't see that happening unless someone leaves. Which is unlikely.

So presently the dilemma is still the same, how do we win these games, and I think the problem will still be there after Sunday. 

I think what you're saying seems to make sense, but I just can't see it working in reality. If you go back and watch us with a double pivot under Puel, and somehow manage to stay awake, I think you'll get a good idea of how we'd play. It would be overly-cautious and devoid of any real creativity or threat going forwards.

 

Besides, I prefer to aim to put round pegs in round holes, and we have the squad to do that, whether we're playing 3/5 at the back or 4, with one DM or a double pivot. If we absolutely had to have 2 defensive midfielders in the same team, I'd try to sign a player like Ndidi who was also creative, or a player like Tielemans who got stuck in with tackles and interceptions (by the way, I think you might be being a bit harsh on Youri. It could well be the case that he just didn't fit in at Monaco. He's been fantastic here, as evidenced by the interest currently being shown in him), as it didn't work with Ndidi and Mendy, and so I'm led to believe it would be even more ineffective with a centre-half shoehorned in there. I still wouldn't want to use 2 DMs, however, as I think it nullifies Ndidi. This is something you can see if you watch him play alongside Mendy under Puel.

 

I think Amartey is best as the right-sided centre-half in a back 3, or as a defensive-minded RB in a back 4. He's never impressed for us in midfield, and I'd rather not see him play there for us again.

 

I can't comment on Fofana as a midfielder, as I've no idea if he's ever played there. I doubt he has, and I don't think we'll see it, either. Sticking Fofana in midfield might help Brendan with the problem of not dropping any of Evans, Soyuncu or Fofana, but it gives you two more headaches -  dropping either Tielemans or Maddison, and also insulting an in-form Mendy by telling him a defender does his job as a defensive midfielder better than him.

 

One of our main problems this season has been that we don't create enough chances. We've been clinical, which is great, but we need to be making more chances for ourselves. I think having Ricardo and Castagne back in the team will go a long way to solving this, but sticking a CB into midfield certainly won't. I think we could become 0-0 specialists by doing this, but I don't think we'd be winning many games.

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