Maddison, Perez and Choudhury Covid breach confirmed - Percy

[Collymore]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

You mean being an disconnected individual that fans find him hard to warm too? 

Yeah. 

 

I just find it really hard to get connected to the guy. I really appreciate what he's doing for the club and he's transforming us  in so many positive ways but sometimes I feel he sees us a platform for him to showcase well ........ him I suppose!

 

I can't really sum it up in words, it's just a feeling I have.  I'm happy he's here as he's brining success though, I just don't feel much towards him.

[Lambert09]

I did stupid things when I was younger, most of us did. I remember going to Barca with my football team when we were 16, One night the team went out to grab some food, everyone went to Mcdonald's with the parents but 3 of us decided to go to Burger king... of course we decided that we were going to go for a night on the town rather than go back to the hotel after ( I think any of the other lads would have done the same) We got caught sneaking in at 5 in the morning, they'd been looking for us all night. 

 

I absolutely adored my manager, ive never had a bigger role model in my life and couldnt have any more respect for him. But I still did it. We let him down and put him at risk, as if anything had happened, he was responsible for us. What im trying to get at, is that just because these guys acted in the moment, it doesnt mean that its because the dont have respect for Brendan or Top or anyone else. They have acted as young lads do, selfishly and living in the moment. 

 

Obviously their situations are different, they are role models and should do better. They deserve the stick and punishment they have received, but I think its time to move on. The club have handled it well, hopefully the internal feelings arent too severely damaged as we have a huge game coming up and one of the most important run ins, in our clubs history. 

 

 

 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...those players did not last too long at the club after their actions!!!

 

Beckham lasted two years after Fergie's comments about his marriage, even signing a contract extension. 

Keane in 2002 was fined by Ferguson £150k after a sending off and comments he made about Haaland. He didn't leave for another three years. 

Stam was sold after his comments - in an era of transfer windows. However Ferguson admitted a mistake when he did later on. 

 

All three players made decisions in the full knowledge of Fergie's hard line - yet Ferguson has never been been accused of having zero discipline. 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Yeah. 

 

I just find it really hard to get connected to the guy. I really appreciate what he's doing for the club and he's transforming us  in so many positive ways but sometimes I feel he sees us a platform for him to showcase well ........ him I suppose!

 

I can't really sum it up in words, it's just a feeling I have.  I'm happy he's here as he's brining success though, I just don't feel much towards him.

I can see that - which I find slightly odd because previously Leicester fans had a kink for a manager who liked to bullshit. Whenever a manager tried to play down something, it gets on our fans tits. 

 

The irony I find in that feeling is that Rodgers' journey to management is in a similar league to Vardy's path. Hard work, slumming it behind the scenes, and making the most of what hand you've been dealt with. 

[CosbehFox]

8 minutes ago, Corky said:

Didn't Ferguson have to deal with a drinking culture and famously turned up at a party to drag Ryan Giggs and others away?

 

Football managers must have the hardest job in the world with their employees who are mainly young, wealthy men who now have power and influence as well as fame and attention.

 

It is unrealistic for them to have a complete hold on their squad.

Yeah the Wednesday club. Bruce, Robson, McGrath, Blackmore. 

 

Which according to Gary Neville went on way into the successful era as well but they were a little more wiser with how they did it. 

[Rob1742]

Young lads break lockdown shocker !!

 

Think most on here, live in some sort of high moral bubble. 
 

I would have preferred it didn’t happen, but you have got to expect young people doing what young people do.

 

I can’t believe what a massive thing people think this is, get over it. Concentrate on your own lives rather than bother with everyone else’s 
 

 

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

6 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Beckham lasted two years after Fergie's comments about his marriage, even signing a contract extension. 

Keane in 2002 was fined by Ferguson £150k after a sending off and comments he made about Haaland. He didn't leave for another three years. 

Stam was sold after his comments - in an era of transfer windows. However Ferguson admitted a mistake when he did later on. 

 

All three players made decisions in the full knowledge of Fergie's hard line - yet Ferguson has never been been accused of having zero discipline. 

I see your point, but those listed were generational players, and times have moved on. 

[Collymore]

Just now, Lambert09 said:

I did stupid things when I was younger, most of us did. I remember going to Barca with my football team when we were 16, One night the team went out to grab some food, everyone went to Mcdonald's with the parents but 3 of us decided to go to Burger king... of course we decided that we were going to go for a night on the town rather than go back to the hotel after ( I think any of the other lads would have done the same) We got caught sneaking in at 5 in the morning, they'd been looking for us all night. 

 

I absolutely adored my manager, ive never had a bigger role model in my life and couldnt have any more respect for him. But I still did it. We let him down and put him at risk, as if anything had happened, he was responsible for us. What im trying to get at, is that just because these guys acted in the moment, it doesnt mean that its because the dont have respect for Brendan or Top or anyone else. They have acted as young lads do, selfishly and living in the moment. 

 

Obviously their situations are different, they are role models and should do better. They deserve the stick and punishment they have received, but I think its time to move on. The club have handled it well, hopefully the internal feelings arent too severely damaged as we have a huge game coming up and one of the most important run ins, in our clubs history. 

 

 

 

A few others have mentioned this "we all make mistakes when we're younger" which of course you're absolutely right and you have already highlighted that it is different for them. 

 

The big difference is that these guys are at the top getting paid millions, a part of that financial reward is for them to make sacrifices that your average younger person wouldn't have to make - like many of us I'd imagine. So the "we all make mistakes" doesn't work for me I'm afraid. 

 

Forgive them yes, but they also must understand that getting paid thousands more than your average person is going to have repercussions that are massively scaled up when it comes to learning from these mistakes. 

[Rob1742]

18 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....just because everyone does it, doesn't make it right!!!

The club has a barber who attends the players hair, suitable protocols would be in place.

   It has been a year and I have failed to notice any change of attitudes in people, when walking to the shops or getting exercise. They are still doing what they always have done, they walk three abreast leaving no space to pass safely on the pavement, no one makes an effort to move out of the way, they walk in the middle of the pavement oblivious that either side of them leaves an insufficient space to pass without having to walk on the road.

  We will have a forced apology from the players concerned and we will all be asked to move on. The problem is, that when the idea was mooted they would have thought for one split second that this was wrong and the next second would have been "so what!!". Any apology will not be genuine, no lesson learned, but they will still front up and lie to our faces, I just wish we didn't have to go through the charade.

Maybe you are one of those who I pass in the street who about jump in a hedge when people walk by. 
 

[Collymore]

7 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I can see that - which I find slightly odd because previously Leicester fans had a kink for a manager who liked to bullshit. Whenever a manager tried to play down something, it gets on our fans tits. 

 

The irony I find in that feeling is that Rodgers' journey to management is in a similar league to Vardy's path. Hard work, slumming it behind the scenes, and making the most of what hand you've been dealt with. 

It's more do with my twisted perception than anything wrong with Rodgers himself probably. I think I find it easier to relate to managers that wear their heart on their sleeves a bit more perhaps... We don't get to know these people personally so I have to try to build an understanding of someone solely on what I see in the media. 

 

Like I said, I love Rodgers being here and am thankful for all of the things he's doing for the club, but do I feel like I know him at all? Not one bit.

[nnfox]

1 minute ago, Rob1742 said:

Young lads break lockdown shocker !!

 

Think most on here, live in some sort of high moral bubble. 
 

I would have preferred it didn’t happen, but you have got to expect young people doing what young people do.

 

I can’t believe what a massive thing people think this is, get over it. Concentrate on your own lives rather than bother with everyone else’s 
 

 

 

 

I think the issue is that they aren't any old young lads though.  They are Premier League footballers earning an absolute fortune doing something that they love.  They are in a priveliged position and looked up to by thousands of people.

 

Being a premier league footballer is about way more than kicking a ball about.  There are off the field responsibilities that go with it, including high standards of behaviour.  Yes, lads will be lads but come on, you get paid 80k per week, all you have to do is not be a complete idiot.

 

We will move on from this and I expect those that were there to put in 110% from now until the end of the season.

[UniFox21]

31 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Brings me back to this wider debate about whether modern day football fans can truly associate with the players and see them as heroes and role models.

We’ve got people on here who have had tattoos done, depicting LCFC emblems and maybe certain players, trophies etc and hey, each to their own

But one of the things that’s put me off modern day football is this disassociation between player and fan.

I honestly don’t think Maddison gives a shiny shite about Leicester City, other than what he can get FROM us in terms of moving on. Mahrez was the same. Even Harvey Barnes must now be a millionaire in his early 20’s

It’s not real life and it’s SO distant from the bulk of the rest of us, I find myself not particularly caring too.

I’ve been a City fan since I was 7 and always will be. But if the likes of Maddison sod off to ‘a bigger club’ I honestly won’t give a toss. 
Why not? Because I don’t believe he does.

So many people big these guys up as ‘heroes’ but all they are is very good at football. Many, innately.

This is why I’d hate to see any of us turn on Vardy. He’s given his all, he stuck with us and didn’t go to Arsenal and he’s clearly loved being here, rather than elsewhere. Pretty much the rest of em.... meh

I don't think we can associate with any player at a high level anymore. They're earning more in a week/month than most of us earn in a year, having people sort out all of their issues and problems that would likely keep us up at night. To a lot of players, this is just a job. They're trained how to talk and deal with the press/fans. The vast majority likely don't give two shits as long as their wages come in at the end of the month.

[Ric Flair]

17 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

Young lads break lockdown shocker !!

 

Think most on here, live in some sort of high moral bubble. 
 

I would have preferred it didn’t happen, but you have got to expect young people doing what young people do.

 

I can’t believe what a massive thing people think this is, get over it. Concentrate on your own lives rather than bother with everyone else’s 
 

 

 

 

I'll be honest Rob, I care more about the fact their actions meant the club had no choice but to make them unavailable for one of our most crucial games of the season less than 24 hours after Rodgers pleaded with them all to be united in their efforts to focus and get top 4 and win the FA Cup. The knock on effect from this also brings added problems and that's what I'm most annoyed about.

 

 

[Houdini Logic]

27 minutes ago, Collymore said:

A few others have mentioned this "we all make mistakes when we're younger" which of course you're absolutely right and you have already highlighted that it is different for them. 

 

The big difference is that these guys are at the top getting paid millions, a part of that financial reward is for them to make sacrifices that your average younger person wouldn't have to make - like many of us I'd imagine. So the "we all make mistakes" doesn't work for me I'm afraid. 

 

Forgive them yes, but they also must understand that getting paid thousands more than your average person is going to have repercussions that are massively scaled up when it comes to learning from these mistakes. 

TBF you could argue that makes it even easier to make mistakes. At the end of the day, just because they get paid a lot doesn't stop them being young lads and I don't think there's any of us who didn't do something stupid and disappoint people when we were younger. But I'll tell you - if someone was giving me millions of pounds and I could afford supercars, nice houses, expensive alcohol and have endless beautiful women throwing themselves at me, then I would have screwed up ten times more than I did!! In that regard, I don't think this is really that big a deal.

 

Everyone makes mistakes. You learn from them or you don't. Time to move on...

 

 

 

Edited 12 April 2021 by Houdini Logic

[Lambert09]

22 minutes ago, Collymore said:

A few others have mentioned this "we all make mistakes when we're younger" which of course you're absolutely right and you have already highlighted that it is different for them. 

 

The big difference is that these guys are at the top getting paid millions, a part of that financial reward is for them to make sacrifices that your average younger person wouldn't have to make - like many of us I'd imagine. So the "we all make mistakes" doesn't work for me I'm afraid. 

 

Forgive them yes, but they also must understand that getting paid thousands more than your average person is going to have repercussions that are massively scaled up when it comes to learning from these mistakes. 

I completely agree and we are justified to be upset. But these guys are going to suffer for it. Maddison in particular may not shake off this image for the rest of his career now. 

 

Nobody is winning in this situation, so im glad that Brendan is trying to move forward and not just dragging out the situation. 

 

I actually think that Maddison is a nice guy. An idiot, yes. But he just has bad judgement, that doesnt make him a bad person. 

[filbertway]

6 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I completely agree and we are justified to be upset. But these guys are going to suffer for it. Maddison in particular may not shake off this image for the rest of his career now. 

It wont even be thought about by the start if next season 

[Kopic]

I heard Evans turned up in a "borrowed" Ausden Clark to take them all to Hamza's.

[weller54]

9 minutes ago, Houdini Logic said:

TBF you could argue that makes it even easier to make mistakes. At the end of the day, just because they get paid a lot doesn't stop them being young lads and I don't think there's any of us who didn't do something stupid and disappoint people when we were younger. But I'll tell you - if someone was giving me millions of pounds and I could afford supercars, nice houses, expensive alcohol and have endless beautiful women throwing themselves at me, then I would have screwed up ten times more than I did!! In that regard, I don't think this is really that big a deal.

 

Everyone makes mistakes. You learn from them or you don't. Time to move on...

 

 

 

Trouble is Maddison hasn't learnt from previous misdemeanors!

He really has tarnished his image and totally f**ked up any chance he had of getting in the Euros.

Can he be trusted in the future?

Probably not.

[MPH]

It was on Twitter that Wes Morgan went too.

 

 

that’s got to be made up, surely...

[Fox in the North]

3 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Trouble is Maddison hasn't learnt from previous misdemeanors!

He really has tarnished his image and totally f**ked up any chance he had of getting in the Euros.

Can he be trusted in the future?

Probably not.

Genuinely, what’s his previous misdemeanours? I can only recall the casino, but didn’t think that was problem at all.

[Le Renard]

 

 

Yes they were stupid and we've all done things that we look back on and think omg what was I doing, I hate to think how I would have been if I was a millionaire in my early 20's.  I give my kids a telling off for half the the things I did, we are all hypocrites. The problem I have is that they have let Rodgers down, other players have done it at other clubs but I don't think it was before a big game late in the season!  If we don't get top four, Maddison will probably get the flak more than the others, he'll get more bile than Chilwell did. 

[Corky]

47 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

Young lads break lockdown shocker !!

 

Think most on here, live in some sort of high moral bubble. 
 

I would have preferred it didn’t happen, but you have got to expect young people doing what young people do.

 

I can’t believe what a massive thing people think this is, get over it. Concentrate on your own lives rather than bother with everyone else’s 
 

 

 

 

They purposefully ignored what their manager asked of them a few hours before. Their actions meant the team was disrupted ahead of a massive game in a key part of a season which is huge for their club. Their actions could've brought a virus into the camp that affects team selection, health, fitness etc.

 

It is a massive thing.

[StanSP]

12 minutes ago, Kopic said:

I heard Evans turned up in a "borrowed" Ausden Clark to take them all to Hamza's.

 

Was Evans the one that drunkenly stole a taxi while at West Brom?

 

Seems that wrongdoing didn't really matter to anyone on here when he was signed...

[Zear0]

6 minutes ago, Corky said:

They purposefully ignored what their manager asked of them a few hours before. Their actions meant the team was disrupted ahead of a massive game in a key part of a season which is huge for their club. Their actions could've brought a virus into the camp that affects team selection.

 

It is a massive thing.

Exactly that. 

 

Can argue about the seriousness of the party, but literally on the day of being instructed to just be sensible for six weeks they do that. 

 

I said in the post match thread this, but feel worth saying the same here. We'll never know what the WHU game would have been if they're available. But if we miss out on champions league due to this, players in the squad will be missing bonuses and a rare opportunity to play in the champions league. Imagine how players like Wilf/Youri will feel if these prats are ruining their chances? Probably give them food for thought to clear off themselves seeing as their team mates don't seem too bothered. 

 

No, they obviously shouldn't be sacked or sent to jail, but their actions are indefensible and damaging to the club. 

Edited 12 April 2021 by Zear0

[Free Falling Foxes]

2 hours ago, Crazy Kop Corner said:

Do we know where he played - The person that told me got mixed up between Kibworth and Kilworth - That layout is definately not Kibworth 

You found me out.

I don't know where he may have played, I just Googled golf course images.

It was late when I posted and accuracy wasn't high in my mind but thought a bit of light relief for a bloody annoying occurrence, might put a smile on some folks faces.