Vestergaard signs

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

11 minutes ago, glenny_fox said:

Or he has a better understanding of the players injuries than we do, and is seemingly managing them so they don't aggrevate the injuries again.

So he couldn't have just been a liitle flexible? He times his replacements irrespective of injuries on much of the evidence to date. 

Edited 12 September 2021 by Cadno'r Cymoedd

[Old Fox]

3 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

So he couldn't have just been a liitle flexible? He times his replacements irrespective of injuries on much of the evidence to date. 

Yes because the science team will absolutely know how to build or break players based upon training and seeing them 7 days a week.

 

Many would complain that had he played another 5 mins pulled his hammy be out for 6weeks that why did we play him that long.

 

it was absolutely obvious watching him he was getting tired and fatigued even when he walked off you could see he was tired plus Jonny was warming up all second half so it was a planned change.

 

To many’s surprise the club actually has pretty well ran back room and support science!

[Raw Dykes]

2 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

So he couldn't have just been a liitle flexible? He times his replacements irrespective of injuries on much of the evidence to date. 

I'm not saying you're completely wrong about BR's subs - they are often at a specific time and seem pre-planned - but then a pre-planned sub isn't always a bad thing. We're just coming out of an injury crisis at CB, and neither Evans or Vestergaard were fit to play the whole match, but you also want to get minutes into their legs, so it made sense to reserve one sub for them.

[Ric Flair]

19 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Impressive performance today. Made some heroic challenges in the first half and he's very accomplished passer barring one giveaway. I feel Soyuncu played better as a result of being alongside him and ultimately whilst he was on the pitch we still had a clean sheet.

 

I quite like the pairing of these two. Can see it being a regular feature in the EL and Evans playing in the Prem.

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

6 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said:

I'm not saying you're completely wrong about BR's subs - they are often at a specific time and seem pre-planned - but then a pre-planned sub isn't always a bad thing. We're just coming out of an injury crisis at CB, and neither Evans or Vestergaard were fit to play the whole match, but you also want to get minutes into their legs, so it made sense to reserve one sub for them.

I don't disagree with that either. But often he fails to react as the game unfolds. The game was screaming out for a change in midfield and up front before they scored. He should have made them earlier. 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

9 minutes ago, Old Fox said:

Yes because the science team will absolutely know how to build or break players based upon training and seeing them 7 days a week.

 

Many would complain that had he played another 5 mins pulled his hammy be out for 6weeks that why did we play him that long.

 

it was absolutely obvious watching him he was getting tired and fatigued even when he walked off you could see he was tired plus Jonny was warming up all second half so it was a planned change.

 

To many’s surprise the club actually has pretty well ran back room and support science!

We had a very good sports science team indeed in the title season and before certainly, no one is disputing that. Some of our players at the moment appear knackered on the pitch. The international commitments don't help of course, but have we gone backwards a bit? Back to my main point, if the match is evolving, you can still have some flexibility. Perhaps Vestergaard should have come off earlier? BR seems too stubborn and rigid at times. 

[coolhandfox]

Looks great on the ball and very commanding. 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

The problem with the Vestergaard/Evans pre-planned 60/30 sub was that you're going into the game knowing you can only make 2 tactical substitutions. We really needed another attacking sub to bring on but couldn't. Daka for a tiring Vardy would have been ideal.

[Raw Dykes]

31 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

I don't disagree with that either. But often he fails to react as the game unfolds. The game was screaming out for a change in midfield and up front before they scored. He should have made them earlier. 

I agree. I just think there was nothing wrong with that particular pre-planned sub and, in isolation, maybe isn't a good example to use for the argument that BR doesn't read the game well.

[Raw Dykes]

2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

The problem with the Vestergaard/Evans pre-planned 60/30 sub was that you're going into the game knowing you can only make 2 tactical substitutions. We really needed another attacking sub to bring on but couldn't. Daka for a tiring Vardy would have been ideal.

I see what you're saying, but what's the alternative? Off-form Cags and Big Dan starting vs Man City? And probably no minutes for either of Evans or Vestergaard on top of that.

Edited 12 September 2021 by Raw Dykes

[SouthStandUpperTier]

10 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said:

I see what you're saying, but what's the alternative? Off-form Cags and Big Dan starting vs Man City?

I know. It's not ideal. We're taking a gamble either way. Just shows how much of a blow the Fofana injury is.

Edited 12 September 2021 by SouthStandUpperTier

[Old Fox]

44 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

I don't disagree with that either. But often he fails to react as the game unfolds. The game was screaming out for a change in midfield and up front before they scored. He should have made them earlier. 

 

39 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said:

We had a very good sports science team indeed in the title season and before certainly, no one is disputing that. Some of our players at the moment appear knackered on the pitch. The international commitments don't help of course, but have we gone backwards a bit? Back to my main point, if the match is evolving, you can still have some flexibility. Perhaps Vestergaard should have come off earlier? BR seems too stubborn and rigid at times. 

It’s an interesting point as over the last 40 years of watching substitutions from the vast majority of our managers seem to have been generally uninspiring - I think it is a real skill and the best I have witnessed was Claudio and I know that might be easy to say having us win the league but how many times he made changes to impact or secure games was incredible!

[Pliskin]

He’s a Danish Maguire. He is absolutely superb at stepping into midfield and playing that ball into the middle of the park. Breaks the lines well with his passes, and what I like about his passing is it’s not tickled, he fizzes it in with purpose. 
 

Impressed, I like him and hopefully he continues this way. 

Edited 12 September 2021 by Pliskin

[Lambert09]

Ignoring the fact he was excellent, it was simply nice to feel like a threat from corners

[Claridge]

Although annoying to lose, over the next few games having both of these available will be a massive plus, glad he gave them both game time

[Dan]

Thought he played really well.

[StriderHiryu]

Before the match I was fearful because the false 9 position that Ferran Torres plays means you have a mobile and tricky forward up against a fairly static defender. Torres did get in twice though both times they were half chances. So to Vestergaard’s credit, if he can play like that against the best attack in the league whilst coming back from injury, then it’s a great sign for the rest of the season. 

[sacreblueits442]

10 hours ago, Raw Dykes said:

I see what you're saying, but what's the alternative? Off-form Cags and Big Dan starting vs Man City? And probably no minutes for either of Evans or Vestergaard on top of that.

...didn't Armartey play in the 5-2 win we had last season....!!!

[Deeg67]

I don’t think the Maguire comparison is without merit.  Not terribly mobile but good on the ball and a real threat from set pieces.  I think Maguire is more skilled in possession but Vesty is the better distributor.

[baldeagle]

Completely missed the game as currently in Ibiza acting  like I’m 18 when I’m in my 50’s but it this guy still shit as per ft pure nonsense  or is he ok now ? 

[420Hashish]

4 hours ago, baldeagle said:

Completely missed the game as currently in Ibiza acting  like I’m 18 when I’m in my 50’s but it this guy still shit as per ft pure nonsense  or is he ok now ? 

Good signing so far 

[Vardinio'sCat]

4 hours ago, baldeagle said:

Completely missed the game as currently in Ibiza acting  like I’m 18 when I’m in my 50’s but it this guy still shit as per ft pure nonsense  or is he ok now ? 

 

Slow on the turn, but otherwise really impressive. Set pieces are much less stressful with him on the pitch, a bit like when we had Slabhead.

[Ross 'LCFC' Turner]

Weak as f**k for the goal midweek & weak as f**k for the penalty, how is Maupay sending him flying through the air like that! 
 

Decent on the ball but his defending is suspect for me.

[Tielemans63]

1 minute ago, Ross 'LCFC' Turner said:

Weak as f**k for the goal midweek & weak as f**k for the penalty, how is Maupay sending him flying through the air like that! 
 

Decent on the ball but his defending is suspect for me.

That's some going, to blame the player being fouled for allowing himself to be fouled.

[1972 Fox]

4 minutes ago, Ross 'LCFC' Turner said:

Weak as f**k for the goal midweek & weak as f**k for the penalty, how is Maupay sending him flying through the air like that! 
 

Decent on the ball but his defending is suspect for me.

Yes agree, this is a bit of a worry. Traore made him look weak too in the first game against Wolves.

 

Edited 19 September 2021 by Blue Fox 72