dpjfox Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 similar to the Kante deal ie, probably done but keep us sweating a few days before the "official shirt pose pic", another signing well worth the wait, and as with Kante, if completed well done to those concerned for the persistance in getting your target signed.
SheppyFox Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 Announced Monday 4pmA chap at work rekons monday n all.
Thracian Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 If he signs, he'd take over the Cambiasso role and act as a proper central defensive midifielder, either on his own or alongside a guy like Kanté maybe (who is, however, not a true CDM but more of a box-to-box CM). Ranieri has said he needs players with experience and Inler fits that bill - as he's been Switzerland captain for about four years now, participated in two World Cups, EURO 2008 and won the Coppa Italia twice and the Supercoppa once. That he's never won the Italian league title is for one down to the fact that Udinese never was a top team challenging for the number one spot and Napoli usually being really close, but ultimately failing because of their own (high) expectations and the desperate attempts to be Italian's best since the Maradona days. Plus, he does know the Italian tactical way of thinking inside out thanks to eight Serie A seasons and would surely act as Ranieri's go-to guy on the pitch. Weren't there similar calls from some fans regarding Cambiasso? And look where it got us... If you want to play at a high level in the Premier League, at one point you've got to open up to foreign talent. I highly doubt a team solely consisting of English or British players would be able to cut it nowadays. Also, you'd have to pay way over the odds for somewhat mediocre English talent - look at the transfer fees paid for Sterling or Andy Carroll, for instance: Were/are the worth it? I don't doubt that you are right to a certain degree but all you've said only adds to the problem of so much ability and potential ability being wasted. Because it is as much the influx of foreign talent into the UK which has stiffled the development of home grown players and continues to do so. Worse, we've allowed cut-price, often perfectly ordinary foreign players (I wouldn't call some we've even had here in Mandaric days footballers) to take the places of UK youngsters who would previously have had a chance to break through in their own locality. Now? Well you only have to look at our own academy to see what a melting pot of nationalities it is and how few are actually developed into first class footballers. I doubt there'll be one this season. There is nothing especially complex or attractive about the "Italian Tactical Way" and if there's a coach in the UK who's incapable of teaching the "Italian Way" he shouldn't have a badge. But there I touch on a lasting problem. A lot of qualified coaches aren't good enough to have a badge, in football or, indeed, in so many other sports including squash, where I had the job of qualifying coaches - across Europe at one stage - and got utterly frustrated at the governing body admitting people onto courses who simply weren't in any way good enough to teach. It was the same on my football badge courses. So many participants weren't even competent enough to demonstrate let alone coach properly. They were there because it gave them another teaching option in the schools or FE colleges they worked at. They were there for the money aspects not because of any great desire or ability to develop talent. Given the commitment and a far more demanding attitude to the standards required for coaching it would be a doddle to coach UK footballers to the highest level - both technically and tactically. Whatever the stats pretend there are over 70 million people in the UK and if you can't get a champion team out of that lot it's pathetic. I actually reckon you could coach a champion team from the Midlands let alone the entire UK. Coaching is not just about technique and tactics - it's about getting people committed to the cause and being willing to do everything they can to sustain it...the very reasons we've been so successful at Leicester lately and have driven ourselves to a position where we can actually aim for honours we've not sensibly dreamed of in the past. And no, I'm not blind to, or ungrateful for, the foreign input into our development. It's been immense. But it's still such a shame so few of our native players are coached through to that level or even get the chance. Chilwell will doubtless be another who will falter due to lack of opportunity and our largely consistent failure to take our trainees to the final, and highest, level simply because we don't have the commitment when it becomes risky. PS: This is not aimed at Ranieri or any of our post Mandaric foreign signings which have been excellent in the main. Indeed, you'd think our own emerging youngsters should benefit from the standards set by the foreign signings around them. But there's no indication that it happens or is actually translated into more UK players breaking through either locally or anywhere else apart from Southampton.
Viva Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 5 mill for a 31 year old who hasn't ever played In the premier league and has never really set the world a light. Big risk that Claudio. Who does he replace in the centre? More of the lcfc I love being forced out by unproven foreign players. Proven, British and love the club, king, drinky, nuge, the players tag got us here is what I want to see! If you want to progress up the table, then you have to upgrade players like the three you mentioned. They did their job getting us out of the championship, but if you keep only championship players or fringe prem players, that's where you will end up again!
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 5 mill for a 31 year old who hasn't ever played In the premier league and has never really set the world a light. Big risk that Claudio. Who does he replace in the centre? More of the lcfc I love being forced out by unproven foreign players. Proven, British and love the club, king, drinky, nuge, the players tag got us here is what I want to see! I understand your sentiments. However, King and Drinks still on the premises as they are good enough (I hope). Nuge not good enough to take us to the next level, so he's off away to Boro with our best wishes. I think / hope this is a club on the way up, and being sentimental shouldn't be allowed interfere with progress and be a barrier, imo.
mozartfox Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 A chap at work rekons monday n all. mmmm.......... The lady behind the meat counter at my local Supermarket reckons Monday too. She normally gives good advice on which meat cuts are good to barbeque, so must be happening. In the meantime can we nudge this thread over a 100 pages so it officially attains 'Maynard'status.
weller54 Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 Gok!!.. Have you finished your tiramisu yet..... That Leicester bloke is on the phone!!!.....
Claudio Fannieri Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 5 mill for a 31 year old who hasn't ever played In the premier league and has never really set the world a light. Big risk that Claudio. Who does he replace in the centre? More of the lcfc I love being forced out by unproven foreign players. Proven, British and love the club, king, drinky, nuge, the players tag got us here is what I want to see! Every post you make is a swipe at the Manager or the club, every new signing is lamented as an unproven foreigner replacing the heart of LCFC, I assume you made these same comments when Pearson allowed Dyer to leave the club, shipped Moore out on loan last season, got rid of GTF and Knocky all part of the "heart of LCFC". You actually post some decent stuff but since Pearson left your posts are littered with negativity and bitterness. I was a Pearson fan but as ever in football nothing lasts forever, move on embrace and enjoy the new era, who knows we might enjoy some success.
foxoffderby Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 I don't doubt that you are right to a certain degree but all you've said only adds to the problem of so much ability and potential ability being wasted. Because it is as much the influx of foreign talent into the UK which has stiffled the development of home grown players and continues to do so. Worse, we've allowed cut-price, often perfectly ordinary foreign players (I wouldn't call some we've even had here in Mandaric days footballers) to take the places of UK youngsters who would previously have had a chance to break through in their own locality. Now? Well you only have to look at our own academy to see what a melting pot of nationalities it is and how few are actually developed into first class footballers. I doubt there'll be one this season. There is nothing especially complex or attractive about the "Italian Tactical Way" and if there's a coach in the UK who's incapable of teaching the "Italian Way" he shouldn't have a badge. But there I touch on a lasting problem. A lot of qualified coaches aren't good enough to have a badge, in football or, indeed, in so many other sports including squash, where I had the job of qualifying coaches - across Europe at one stage - and got utterly frustrated at the governing body admitting people onto courses who simply weren't in any way good enough to teach. It was the same on my football badge courses. So many participants weren't even competent enough to demonstrate let alone coach properly. They were there because it gave them another teaching option in the schools or FE colleges they worked at. They were there for the money aspects not because of any great desire or ability to develop talent. Given the commitment and a far more demanding attitude to the standards required for coaching it would be a doddle to coach UK footballers to the highest level - both technically and tactically. Whatever the stats pretend there are over 70 million people in the UK and if you can't get a champion team out of that lot it's pathetic. I actually reckon you could coach a champion team from the Midlands let alone the entire UK. Coaching is not just about technique and tactics - it's about getting people committed to the cause and being willing to do everything they can to sustain it...the very reasons we've been so successful at Leicester lately and have driven ourselves to a position where we can actually aim for honours we've not sensibly dreamed of in the past. And no, I'm not blind to, or ungrateful for, the foreign input into our development. It's been immense. But it's still such a shame so few of our native players are coached through to that level or even get the chance. Chilwell will doubtless be another who will falter due to lack of opportunity and our largely consistent failure to take our trainees to the final, and highest, level simply because we don't have the commitment when it becomes risky. PS: This is not aimed at Ranieri or any of our post Mandaric foreign signings which have been excellent in the main. Indeed, you'd think our own emerging youngsters should benefit from the standards set by the foreign signings around them. But there's no indication that it happens or is actually translated into more UK players breaking through either locally or anywhere else apart from Southampton. Whats this the Rivers of Blood Speech?
RedSoxUK Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 5 mill for a 31 year old who hasn't ever played In the premier league and has never really set the world a light. Big risk that Claudio. Who does he replace in the centre? More of the lcfc I love being forced out by unproven foreign players. Proven, British and love the club, king, drinky, nuge, the players tag got us here is what I want to see!
jayfox26 Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 I don't doubt that you are right to a certain degree but all you've said only adds to the problem of so much ability and potential ability being wasted. Because it is as much the influx of foreign talent into the UK which has stiffled the development of home grown players and continues to do so. Worse, we've allowed cut-price, often perfectly ordinary foreign players (I wouldn't call some we've even had here in Mandaric days footballers) to take the places of UK youngsters who would previously have had a chance to break through in their own locality. Now? Well you only have to look at our own academy to see what a melting pot of nationalities it is and how few are actually developed into first class footballers. I doubt there'll be one this season. There is nothing especially complex or attractive about the "Italian Tactical Way" and if there's a coach in the UK who's incapable of teaching the "Italian Way" he shouldn't have a badge. But there I touch on a lasting problem. A lot of qualified coaches aren't good enough to have a badge, in football or, indeed, in so many other sports including squash, where I had the job of qualifying coaches - across Europe at one stage - and got utterly frustrated at the governing body admitting people onto courses who simply weren't in any way good enough to teach. It was the same on my football badge courses. So many participants weren't even competent enough to demonstrate let alone coach properly. They were there because it gave them another teaching option in the schools or FE colleges they worked at. They were there for the money aspects not because of any great desire or ability to develop talent. Given the commitment and a far more demanding attitude to the standards required for coaching it would be a doddle to coach UK footballers to the highest level - both technically and tactically. Whatever the stats pretend there are over 70 million people in the UK and if you can't get a champion team out of that lot it's pathetic. I actually reckon you could coach a champion team from the Midlands let alone the entire UK. Coaching is not just about technique and tactics - it's about getting people committed to the cause and being willing to do everything they can to sustain it...the very reasons we've been so successful at Leicester lately and have driven ourselves to a position where we can actually aim for honours we've not sensibly dreamed of in the past. And no, I'm not blind to, or ungrateful for, the foreign input into our development. It's been immense. But it's still such a shame so few of our native players are coached through to that level or even get the chance. Chilwell will doubtless be another who will falter due to lack of opportunity and our largely consistent failure to take our trainees to the final, and highest, level simply because we don't have the commitment when it becomes risky. PS: This is not aimed at Ranieri or any of our post Mandaric foreign signings which have been excellent in the main. Indeed, you'd think our own emerging youngsters should benefit from the standards set by the foreign signings around them. But there's no indication that it happens or is actually translated into more UK players breaking through either locally or anywhere else apart from Southampton. Totally agree with what your saying, but MCPrussian's point still stands. We as a club on our own can't do anything about the state of youth development in England so we have got to compete with he masses and buy foreign talent. You're completely right about there being a lack of good coaches in England but we've got to think for now and assemble a squad capable of competing in the premier league this season and if that means bringing in foreign players then so be it. Until there is a massive change in culture across the country we have to do what everyone else does to survive and look abroad for our players. I personally can't think of any English centre mid that we could buy for £5m that is as good as Inler.
Hack Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 If he signs, he'd take over the Cambiasso role and act as a proper central defensive midifielder, either on his own or alongside a guy like Kanté maybe (who is, however, not a true CDM but more of a box-to-box CM). Ranieri has said he needs players with experience and Inler fits that bill - as he's been Switzerland captain for about four years now, participated in two World Cups, EURO 2008 and won the Coppa Italia twice and the Supercoppa once. That he's never won the Italian league title is for one down to the fact that Udinese never was a top team challenging for the number one spot and Napoli usually being really close, but ultimately failing because of their own (high) expectations and the desperate attempts to be Italian's best since the Maradona days. Plus, he does know the Italian tactical way of thinking inside out thanks to eight Serie A seasons and would surely act as Ranieri's go-to guy on the pitch. Weren't there similar calls from some fans regarding Cambiasso? And look where it got us... If you want to play at a high level in the Premier League, at one point you've got to open up to foreign talent. I highly doubt a team solely consisting of English or British players would be able to cut it nowadays. Also, you'd have to pay way over the odds for somewhat mediocre English talent - look at the transfer fees paid for Sterling or Andy Carroll, for instance: Were/are they worth it? People need to ignore Foxhate. It is in his name. Has never a good thing to say about anything related to the team. The ultimate troll if you ask me.
SheppyFox Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 mmmm.......... The lady behind the meat counter at my local Supermarket reckons Monday too. She normally gives good advice on which meat cuts are good to barbeque, so must be happening. In the meantime can we nudge this thread over a 100 pages so it officially attains 'Maynard'status. Maureen? I know her n all matey! Top source! Small world i guess
MC Prussian Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 I don't doubt that you are right to a certain degree but all you've said only adds to the problem of so much ability and potential ability being wasted. Because it is as much the influx of foreign talent into the UK which has stiffled the development of home grown players and continues to do so. Worse, we've allowed cut-price, often perfectly ordinary foreign players (I wouldn't call some we've even had here in Mandaric days footballers) to take the places of UK youngsters who would previously have had a chance to break through in their own locality. Now? Well you only have to look at our own academy to see what a melting pot of nationalities it is and how few are actually developed into first class footballers. I doubt there'll be one this season. There is nothing especially complex or attractive about the "Italian Tactical Way" and if there's a coach in the UK who's incapable of teaching the "Italian Way" he shouldn't have a badge. But there I touch on a lasting problem. A lot of qualified coaches aren't good enough to have a badge, in football or, indeed, in so many other sports including squash, where I had the job of qualifying coaches - across Europe at one stage - and got utterly frustrated at the governing body admitting people onto courses who simply weren't in any way good enough to teach. It was the same on my football badge courses. So many participants weren't even competent enough to demonstrate let alone coach properly. They were there because it gave them another teaching option in the schools or FE colleges they worked at. They were there for the money aspects not because of any great desire or ability to develop talent. Given the commitment and a far more demanding attitude to the standards required for coaching it would be a doddle to coach UK footballers to the highest level - both technically and tactically. Whatever the stats pretend there are over 70 million people in the UK and if you can't get a champion team out of that lot it's pathetic. I actually reckon you could coach a champion team from the Midlands let alone the entire UK. Coaching is not just about technique and tactics - it's about getting people committed to the cause and being willing to do everything they can to sustain it...the very reasons we've been so successful at Leicester lately and have driven ourselves to a position where we can actually aim for honours we've not sensibly dreamed of in the past. And no, I'm not blind to, or ungrateful for, the foreign input into our development. It's been immense. But it's still such a shame so few of our native players are coached through to that level or even get the chance. Chilwell will doubtless be another who will falter due to lack of opportunity and our largely consistent failure to take our trainees to the final, and highest, level simply because we don't have the commitment when it becomes risky. PS: This is not aimed at Ranieri or any of our post Mandaric foreign signings which have been excellent in the main. Indeed, you'd think our own emerging youngsters should benefit from the standards set by the foreign signings around them. But there's no indication that it happens or is actually translated into more UK players breaking through either locally or anywhere else apart from Southampton. Personally, I'd disagree heavily. A lot of English clubs disregard their youth setup (completely) and only a handful or skilful players ever make it to the big scene for there to last. Sometimes, it's also down to finances. Maintenance fees can be extraordinarily high. In many ways, English players are overhyped, overpaid and overprotected before they've even kicked a ball (that's paraphrasing it, but I do believe you get my drift). They're growing up in a country where they have everything, don't have to fear for their life, and are well-protected. That in itself can stifle grit and bite to a large extent. Why would you want to stride for excellence when you don't know what poverty or rough times mean? And even if you have a good Youth Academy setup, it doesn't prove that you'll earn the rewards later on because it's all down to the human factor. Some coaches don't recognize talent, some talented players give up or give in too early - be it because they don't want to carry on (at one club) or because of their family's and friends' influence. Others are frozen out because of jealousy, others are harassed because of their talent and if you're not strong enough mentally, you might as well quit. Nationality has little to do with the problem. It's the environment youngsters grow up in, coupled with their own personality and determination as well as a scouting network that works or not. Which is where chance comes into play. Trying to maintain a successful academy is a bit like playing the lottery - you hope that one day, you'll win and find that golden egg. But it's not guaranteed. Not at all.
Guest Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 If he signs, he'd take over the Cambiasso role and act as a proper central defensive midifielder, either on his own or alongside a guy like Kanté maybe (who is, however, not a true CDM but more of a box-to-box CM). Ranieri has said he needs players with experience and Inler fits that bill - as he's been Switzerland captain for about four years now, participated in two World Cups, EURO 2008 and won the Coppa Italia twice and the Supercoppa once. That he's never won the Italian league title is for one down to the fact that Udinese never was a top team challenging for the number one spot and Napoli usually being really close, but ultimately failing because of their own (high) expectations and the desperate attempts to be Italy's best since the Maradona days. Plus, he does know the Italian tactical way of thinking inside out thanks to eight Serie A seasons and would surely act as Ranieri's go-to guy on the pitch. Weren't there similar calls from some fans regarding Cambiasso? And look where it got us... If you want to play at a high level in the Premier League, at one point you've got to open up to foreign talent. I highly doubt a team solely consisting of English or British players would be able to cut it nowadays. Also, you'd have to pay way over the odds for somewhat mediocre English talent - look at the transfer fees paid for Sterling or Andy Carroll, for instance: Were/are they worth it? No he won't, he isn't a sitting cdm. Nor was Cambiasso. People honestly believe fm is real life don't they?
Carl the Llama Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 No he won't, he isn't a sitting cdm. Nor was Cambiasso. People honestly believe fm is real life don't they? Well Sky Sports used it to analyse Kante after he signed (no, really).
Steven Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 Sorry if this is a stupid just woken up post but isn't this inler in training? Saw this on the lcfc match preview thing they email me. http://mobile.lcfc.com/cms_galleryimages/lc7464-018280-2617449_478x359.jpg No.
Steven Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 Also, you'd have to pay way over the odds for somewhat mediocre English talent - look at the transfer fees paid for Sterling or Andy Carroll, for instance: Were/are they worth it? This is the elephant in the room that no-one talks about when bemoaning that fact that fewer British players are playing in the PL.
ARM1968 Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 There really is little room for sentiment in the EPL. You improve or you fail. Unfortunately I don't think even if we assembled the full England team that they would be good enough to win the league. That's football. Whilst we all know greater efforts need to be made to improve the quality of Engkish football it won't happen overnight and we cannot wait for it to do so. We have to push on and hopefully drag English players along with us as much as we can.
chapero82 Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 This is the elephant in the room that no-one talks about when bemoaning that fact that fewer British players are playing in the PL. Look at Bale also no way is he worth more than Suarez etc
foxes_rule1978 Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 Look at Bale also no way is he worth more than Suarez etc It is actually not good that British players are so over valued, it is why clubs like ours etc... turn to the foreign market... sterling has one good season and his value is 50mill... that happens with a young foreign player you could get him for as low as 10 -20 mill
MPH Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 But effectively, what are Leicester's options? We either have to buy talent from abroad ( like everyone else is doing) or we face a much larger chance of getting left behind and therefore relegated...
Merging Cultures Posted 15 August 2015 Posted 15 August 2015 This is the elephant in the room that no-one talks about when bemoaning that fact that fewer British players are playing in the PL.Not really an elephant in the room, everyone talks about the fact English players are overpriced regularly.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.