Callabinho Posted 16 February 2017 Posted 16 February 2017 I would love to sit down and ask Steve Walsh the real reasons behind his departure...
foxinsocks Posted 16 February 2017 Posted 16 February 2017 4 hours ago, Guy said: If the report is true then the owners' judgement at this precise moment is surely still very much clouded by emotion on the back of last season's miracle alone. For such supposedly acute businessmen they seem to be showing a complete leaning towards sentimentality and loyalty towards management and a disregard for the longevity of this club IMO. Indeed it would be no shock if they packed up and walked away come the dawn of next season if we find ourselves ready to kick off the new season against opponents like Bristol City, Brentford and Sheffield United. Then where would we be?? :-\ Talk about stepping back 8 years in one calendar year if that is going to be the dreaded overall outcome! I expect they can see that things must change. Yet rather than ceate more crisis or uncertainty (given there is no clear alternative). ... it might be better to stick with a manager but encourage him to change. In our case cr needs to play a system the players understand.... and start the players who are IN FORM
Clever Fox Posted 16 February 2017 Posted 16 February 2017 4 hours ago, Callabinho said: I would love to sit down and ask Steve Walsh the real reasons behind his departure... I suspect he didn't agree with the changes now coming out like removing some of the Sports clinic. Maybe also the standard of players we were signing. While nobody is irreplaceable there's no doubt he's been a big loss.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 16 February 2017 Posted 16 February 2017 10 hours ago, murphy said: Whilst I am disgusted with the players this year, it does seem that Claudio's gone rogue if it is true that he is ignoring the sports science team and coaching staff and falling out with players. Very sad. It is well reported that CR did very little to change the excellent set up that he inherited when he arrived. Why change it now? Our best hope is to let Shakey take the run in. I don't think there's many a Leicester fan that didn't greeted Claudio's appointment with a massive amount of intrepidation. When Pearson went to Hull I was more bothered about his backroom team joining him. The most comforting fact on his appointment that other than risk being possibly unemployed they stuck about with CR and continued the momentum. Significant people have left the club and either not been replaced as seen as unnecessary or replaced by unknowns that have remained unknown. CR does not run the club as NP, MON and Little did and If as it seems Shakey has been marginalised to whatever degree it leaves only an inept and inexperienced at this level Rudkin to control any disassembly and tinkering.
Ric Flair Posted 16 February 2017 Posted 16 February 2017 3 hours ago, foxinsocks said: I expect they can see that things must change. Yet rather than ceate more crisis or uncertainty (given there is no clear alternative). ... it might be better to stick with a manager but encourage him to change. In our case cr needs to play a system the players understand.... and start the players who are IN FORM I don't get why people say this? The alternative's aren't compiled on a general consensus from fans. Managers are appointed by the owners and executives of our club so how do we know there are no alternatives? Who were the immediate alternatives when Pearson was binned? Ranieri didn't FLAG up did he? It riles me when I read this as an excuse for keeping an underperforming manager.
Sly Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 Just give Roy Keane the friggin job until the summer!! FFS
theessexfox Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 Unfortunately he is a comically bad football manager when the going gets tough.
WoodyFox Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 The worst thing is you can actually imagine him in the dressing room putting his arms around the players saying you did well and showed good fight.
lee7 Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 Please please please let the owners either get rid of him or Ranieri himself resign. With him in charge we will get ripped to pieces by Sevilla. I Can only see us losing by 5/6. Without him we may get away with a 1/2-0 loss!
surrifox Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 7 minutes ago, lee7 said: Please please please let the owners either get rid of him or Ranieri himself resign. With him in charge we will get ripped to pieces by Sevilla. I Can only see us losing by 5/6. Without him we may get away with a 1/2-0 loss! I couldn't honestly give a rats arse about Sevilla. I am more worried about finishing the season in the championship with a bunch of unsaleable fraudsters on massive wages
BlueSi13 Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 On 16/02/2017 at 06:17, Callabinho said: I would love to sit down and ask Steve Walsh the real reasons behind his departure... Seconded. It was always absolute horseshit that it was to be closer to his family. He'd not long signed a new long-term contract.
SecretPro Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 This thread needs to FOAD. Should be Execution, not Stay of Execution.
filthyfox Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 09:55, RowlattsFox said: I'm pretty confident Ranieri will go in the summer, stay up or go down. Just hope we somehow manage to survive. Hopefully he will do the decent thing and walk following Wednesdays capitulation
Thracian Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 Why would Ranieri resign? He'll have the most fabulous contract. Short of Tony Blair inciting the fans to (peacefully) "rise up" in time for tomorrow's press conference I can't imagine he'll feel any special pressure to quit a job he's turned up and done to what he considers the best of his ability. No, if we've given him the sort of contract no sane person would walk away from we'll have to negotiate exit terms with Ranieri perhaps holding his share of aces. It may be that if we get relegated, the terms of exit might be less costly but I'm not privy to those details. I just read mention, like everyone else on here, of the owners wanting the status quo to remain until at least the end of the season. What worries me is that, in all probability, that may well mean another bad season to follow. Because whoever comes next will need his own time to evaluate the situation and start putting things right. And, for me, that will mean major surgery and a fair amount of recuperative convalescence, whatever division we're in. .
jumbo747 Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 2 hours ago, surrifox said: I couldn't honestly give a rats arse about Sevilla. I am more worried about finishing the season in the championship with a bunch of unsaleable fraudsters on massive wages This. I didn't join the forum to just throw brickbats at anyone, but over the past couple of weeks it's this part of the debacle that is really making me angry.
The Guvnor Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 If we lose our next two PL matches against Liverpool and Hull I reckon he will be sacked, the owners have been supportive to obviously try and improve the current situation but that will wear thin when they see their PL status evaporating after all they are business men.
HankMarvin Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 51 minutes ago, Thracian said: Why would Ranieri resign? He'll have the most fabulous contract. Short of Tony Blair inciting the fans to (peacefully) "rise up" in time for tomorrow's press conference I can't imagine he'll feel any special pressure to quit a job he's turned up and done to what he considers the best of his ability. No, if we've given him the sort of contract no sane person would walk away from we'll have to negotiate exit terms with Ranieri perhaps holding his share of aces. It may be that if we get relegated, the terms of exit might be less costly but I'm not privy to those details. I just read mention, like everyone else on here, of the owners wanting the status quo to remain until at least the end of the season. What worries me is that, in all probability, that may well mean another bad season to follow. Because whoever comes next will need his own time to evaluate the situation and start putting things right. And, for me, that will mean major surgery and a fair amount of recuperative convalescence, whatever division we're in. . Once the Thais start hearing him booed and more so the team I think their stance will change, Fans dwindling optimism will see to this. It will just probably be nearer the end of the season
Dr The Singh Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 1 hour ago, Thracian said: Why would Ranieri resign? He'll have the most fabulous contract. Short of Tony Blair inciting the fans to (peacefully) "rise up" in time for tomorrow's press conference I can't imagine he'll feel any special pressure to quit a job he's turned up and done to what he considers the best of his ability. No, if we've given him the sort of contract no sane person would walk away from we'll have to negotiate exit terms with Ranieri perhaps holding his share of aces. It may be that if we get relegated, the terms of exit might be less costly but I'm not privy to those details. I just read mention, like everyone else on here, of the owners wanting the status quo to remain until at least the end of the season. What worries me is that, in all probability, that may well mean another bad season to follow. Because whoever comes next will need his own time to evaluate the situation and start putting things right. And, for me, that will mean major surgery and a fair amount of recuperative convalescence, whatever division we're in. . Ranieri can suck my nads
Thracian Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: Once the Thais start hearing him booed and more so the team I think their stance will change, Fans dwindling optimism will see to this. It will just probably be nearer the end of the season I don't want to say this and truly wish I could see it differently. But if we're to have any chance of remaining in The Premiership change is needed now. I don't care about the level of pay-off. I'm more than happy for Ranieri to walk away a very rich man and everlastingly proud of winning The Premiership. But if he genuinely cares about our club he will have the dignity to negotiate an acceptable settlement, accept that he's in a situation he can't remedy and resign to give our owners at least some chance of saving our status or laying the foundations for a successful return next season. I really would be as glad of that as of our winning the title. Today's outcome was more than embarrassing but only a further symptom of so much being wrong and not being improved. So please Claudio, do the honourable thing. And be remembered for the good things.
Spiritwalker Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 18 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Once the Thais start hearing him booed and more so the team I think their stance will change, Fans dwindling optimism will see to this. It will just probably be nearer the end of the season I won't boo the team or manager but will make a concerted effort not to sing his name again. Along with most of the stadium I was singing the Ranieri song when we were holding our own against Dierby reserves, when the owners hear this they must think he has the backing of the fans.
HankMarvin Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 2 minutes ago, Thracian said: I don't want to say this and truly wish I could see it differently. But if we're to have any chance of remaining in The Premiership change is needed now. I don't care about the level of pay-off. I'm more than happy for Ranieri to walk away a very rich man and everlastingly proud of winning The Premiership. But if he genuinely cares about our club he will have the dignity to negotiate an acceptable settlement, accept that he's in a situation he can't remedy and resign to give our owners at least some chance of saving our status or laying the foundations for a successful return next season. I really would be as glad of that as of our winning the title. Today's outcome was more than embarrassing but only a further symptom of so much being wrong and not being improved. So please Claudio, do the honourable thing. And be remembered for the good things. Its like living in footballing purgatory,or like one of them dreams were you cant run - except in our case we cant score. I can deal with losing, its just the manner in which we lose every week that is more than worrying. Defend defend defend, that was also NPs downfall prior to the attacking switch in style.
Thracian Posted 18 February 2017 Posted 18 February 2017 4 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said: I won't boo the team or manager but will make a concerted effort not to sing his name again. Along with most of the stadium I was singing the Ranieri song when we're holding our own against Dierby reserves, when the owners hear this they must think he has the backing of the fans. Our fans are excellent in this respect. Over all the years and through some pathetic managers, it's always taken a lot to turn the fans feelings into open badmouthing of either our players or management. Perhaps even more so in recent seasons. Even now it's not just the results but our depressing lack or goals that is so draining of optimism. Most of all though it's the realisation that something is very wrong with all the chemistry in the club yet nothing's being done about it. .
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