gurru991 Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 Just now, Lcfcwigstonblue said: Haven't they turned down 20m from WBA, He is not a better player than Maguire. The price doesn't always reflect the quality of the player. It's a supply and demand world in football transfers. We got a very good deal with Maguire but Middlesbrough are going to play hard ball and try and get top dollar. If Gibson goes for 25 it doesn't mean he is better than Maguire at 17.
brucey Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 Maguire's worth 25 any day, it's just that Hull were having a fire sale and their board are useless with negotiations.
vanity Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 On 8/5/2017 at 13:09, Fox 4 Life said: Shakey has been playing Amartey purely as RB. for some reason he doesn't see him at CB. Went with Fuchs over him last season even with all the injuries! Amartey is a very good CB from the look of it. He can step in right now and play a Benny-type role as a back-up. I think Shakey knows we are buying a CB, and even if we don't, we need a back-up RB more than another back-up CB, so if we can use preseason for Amartey to work at mastering the angles and improving his positioning, that is a good use of his time. But his CB instincts seem to betray him a bit, saw him playing too narrow, I think he knows the positioning inside and when in danger, retreats to be closer to where he is comfortable.
Foxes1 Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 1 hour ago, brucey said: Maguire's worth 25 any day, it's just that Hull were having a fire sale and their board are useless with negotiations. Bet Rudders has worked there then.
sm1 Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 2 hours ago, gurru991 said: The price doesn't always reflect the quality of the player. It's a supply and demand world in football transfers. We got a very good deal with Maguire but Middlesbrough are going to play hard ball and try and get top dollar. If Gibson goes for 25 it doesn't mean he is better than Maguire at 17. True, I've been more impressed with Maguire then Stones and he went for 50M. We lost out on Keane last year squabbling over 5M, we dont want to make that mistake again.
Guest Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 1 hour ago, vanity said: Amartey is a very good CB from the look of it. He can step in right now and play a Benny-type role as a back-up. I think Shakey knows we are buying a CB, and even if we don't, we need a back-up RB more than another back-up CB, so if we can use preseason for Amartey to work at mastering the angles and improving his positioning, that is a good use of his time. But his CB instincts seem to betray him a bit, saw him playing too narrow, I think he knows the positioning inside and when in danger, retreats to be closer to where he is comfortable. Amartey is just shit full stop. Not as shit as musa though.
gurru991 Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 11 minutes ago, sm1 said: True, I've been more impressed with Maguire then Stones and he went for 50M. We lost out on Keane last year squabbling over 5M, we dont want to make that mistake again. Me too !! If Gibson is on the same level as Maguire & by all accounts he is then at 20 to 25 he still would be a good deal. I'm just worried that his head may get turned by Man City interest. I'm pretty sure he would get regular playing time here but would be a sub at Man City.
FoxonMaui Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 Sadly I fear the Man City interest will drive up the price. If he goes there he will be killing his career as he will likely be doing a "Delph" or what used to known as a "Sinclair" ?. If we pay the money and sign this guy even at 30m , this time next year he will be worth 50m. Gibson and Maguire will go to the WC if they start together for us this season. Vards and Inheacho will score a lot of goals, we just need to make sure we are tight at the back and we will have a good season. Maybe ShAkey is reluctant to bin Huth and Morgan from the starting lineup this season out of loyalty to them. I hope not. we virtually stole Maguire for 17m, we cannot expect to do that every time we buy an English player.
sm1 Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 If Man City are involved, expect the obligatory 50M offer.
Wymsey Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 Just glad we've got Harry Maguire for decent fee, who I feel is a better all-round player than Gibson. If Gibson stays until next Summer there, I'd consider us getting him when Huth and Morgan are another year older.
gurru991 Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 1 hour ago, Wymeswold fox said: Just glad we've got Harry Maguire for decent fee, who I feel is a better all-round player than Gibson. If Gibson stays until next Summer there, I'd consider us getting him when Huth and Morgan are another year older. Gibson will want to play in the Premier league this season to have a chance at a world cup berth. If we can't afford him this year we sure won't be able to next year.
jayfox26 Posted 7 August 2017 Posted 7 August 2017 6 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Van Lesbians replacement at Southampton Sounds about right. They'll buy him for £25m and sell him for £50m next summer to chelsea or city
chapero82 Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 10 hours ago, jayfox26 said: Sounds about right. They'll buy him for £25m and sell him for £50m next summer to chelsea or city While Rudders is collecting pigeons
sylofox Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 8 minutes ago, chapero82 said: While Rudders is collecting pigeons Race horses.
les-tah Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 Everyone can see we need this. Crazy if it doesnt happen. Fees are only getting higher.
dannythefox Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 I remember us saying we was willing to wait for him basically I last minute bid if he's still there at the end of the window. Big gamble though.
les-tah Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 He apparently be going Southampton to replace VVD.. which i can see happening. Will have a worldie of a season and we will be all like 'wish we got him' we then blame Rudkin .. repeat. .....Vicious circle.
Fox 4 Life Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 2 hours ago, les-tah said: He apparently be going Southampton to replace VVD.. which i can see happening. Will have a worldie of a season and we will be all like 'wish we got him' we then blame Rudkin .. repeat. .....Vicious circle. Michael Keane mk2!
ARM1968 Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 The most annoying thing about this is that if we put in a decent bid we would/could get the guy. Might be too many sniffing now.
shramik Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 He's only going to go where he's guaranteed first team football with a world cup next year. Are we realistically able to offer him that with Maguire coming in as well, or the risk the fact that we throw two young players in at the deep end to keep everyone happy?
Gerard Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 12 minutes ago, shramik said: He's only going to go where he's guaranteed first team football with a world cup next year. Are we realistically able to offer him that with Maguire coming in as well, or the risk the fact that we throw two young players in at the deep end to keep everyone happy? I've no idea how good Gibson is but the thought of getting two young possibly future England centre halves and letting them form a partnership from the off excites me.
Buzzell Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 5 minutes ago, Gerard said: I've no idea how good Gibson is but the thought of getting two young possibly future England centre halves and letting them form a partnership from the off excites me.
st albans fox Posted 8 August 2017 Posted 8 August 2017 6 minutes ago, Gerard said: I've no idea how good Gibson is but the thought of getting two young possibly future England centre halves and letting them form a partnership from the off excites me. But we aren't going to drop both Morgan and huth which means he won't get guaranteed game time which will happen on the south coast
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