Nick Posted 13 June 2017 Posted 13 June 2017 1 minute ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: Spurs won't beat us on wages...They are notoriously stingy, and the contracts are packed with incentive bonuses to make up the difference. If he is sitting on the bench, he won't meet the targets on the individual incentives (although there will still be team incentives to pad the wages, but that's depending on another good season). Yep and I don't think he'll go but his agent will use it to get him a new contract here. 1
foxes21 Posted 13 June 2017 Posted 13 June 2017 this is probably his agent putting pressure on us to give demarai a new contract 1
Thracian Posted 13 June 2017 Posted 13 June 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, filbertway said: Shakespeare doesn't seem to rate him in the slightest (based on him giving the guy about 7 minutes at the end of games), so if Poch or any manager in the top 8 wanted him at their clubs I wouldn't blame him for going. Would love to see him get a proper chance but we'll probably sell him for £12 million then try and sign Matt Phillips for £20 million. I'm not sure Shakespeare doesn't rate him so much as wishes he'd grow up and become part of the squad. My impression could be wrong but it's of a lad focused on his own ends, selection, brilliance and internet nonsense rather than the cause, being part of the group, making a contribution whatever is required, constantly finding ways to improve every aspect of his performance and increasing his stamina. Being in and out of the team. or even the squad, is part and parcel of being a member of any Premiership squad these days. No manager or coach expects a player to be happy when he's left out or given less time than he wants but how you react gets noted - and the best way to react is to be supportive and to show your intention just to keep improving at every turn, both skill wise and in terms of your mental capacity to cope with all the glory and setbacks which go with being a professional sportsman. Bottom line is that Gray has significant shortcomings and that's what he should be focusing on. Moving from Birmingham to Leicester and then, in his dreams, from Leicester to Spurs won't change the fact that he'll be taking himself with him and if there are flaws in his attitude/approach at one club he'll have the same flaws at the next place unless he makes a conscious effort to change. Yes, he might - or might not - get more money but, in the long run he'll need to correct his faults to succeed and make a name in the game. And one thing's for sure. Poch won't settle for indifference. Gray would either improve or get forgotten and, at this stage, he'd likely have more chance of staying in and around Leicester's team than Spurs. I wish him luck whatever direction he chooses but his loss wouldn't greatly bother me. My feeling is that he could improve but probably won't. He has so much skill but, rather like Musa, he doesn't get his head up, see the pictures and pick the choices enough for me. David Gibson could pick out a fly on the floor from 30 yards and see hidden planets if they were wearing City shirts. Edited 13 June 2017 by Thracian 4
Trav Le Bleu Posted 13 June 2017 Posted 13 June 2017 1 hour ago, sylofox said: Been told this is more likely than Mahrez going atm. So 5% of 0%?
filbertway Posted 13 June 2017 Posted 13 June 2017 43 minutes ago, Thracian said: I'm not sure Shakespeare doesn't rate him so much as wishes he'd grow up and become part of the squad. My impression could be wrong but it's of a lad focused on his own ends, selection, brilliance and internet nonsense rather than the cause, being part of the group, making a contribution whatever is required, constantly finding ways to improve every aspect of his performance and increasing his stamina. Being in and out of the team. or even the squad, is part and parcel of being a member of any Premiership squad these days. No manager or coach expects a player to be happy when he's left out or given less time than he wants but how you react gets noted - and the best way to react is to be supportive and to show your intention just to keep improving at every turn, both skill wise and in terms of your mental capacity to cope with all the glory and setbacks which go with being a professional sportsman. Bottom line is that Gray has significant shortcomings and that's what he should be focusing on. Moving from Birmingham to Leicester and then, in his dreams, from Leicester to Spurs won't change the fact that he'll be taking himself with him and if there are flaws in his attitude/approach at one club he'll have the same flaws at the next place unless he makes a conscious effort to change. Yes, he might - or might not - get more money but, in the long run he'll need to correct his faults to succeed and make a name in the game. And one thing's for sure. Poch won't settle for indifference. Gray would either improve or get forgotten and, at this stage, he'd likely have more chance of staying in and around Leicester's team than Spurs. I wish him luck whatever direction he chooses but his loss wouldn't greatly bother me. My feeling is that he could improve but probably won't. He has so much skill but, rather like Musa, he doesn't get his head up, see the pictures and pick the choices enough for me. David Gibson could pick out a see a fly on the floor from 30 yards and see hidden planets if they were wearing City shirts. Haha I always enjoy your posts for sentences like this. I think you're probably right in that he's overlooked a lot due to being quite raw. He's never going to improve his decision making if he doesn't get game time at this level though. If our wingers were scoring and creating goals for fun I imagine he'd be a bit more understanding. Mahrez has basically been given licence all season to do nothing for us and Albrighton seems irreplaceable. He's probably felt that whatever he does he's not going to get a fair chance ahead of the other 2. I see massive potential in the guy, but he's never going to reach it sat on the bench here. If I was him I'd take a leaf out of Kramaric's book and get out and to a team that will let him thrive.
sylofox Posted 13 June 2017 Posted 13 June 2017 25 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said: So 5% of 0%? At this moment 100% But that's based on the fact we have had no enquiries in Mahrez what so ever. It seems the club have made it obvious if you want Mahrez don't bother unless you have £50m.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 13 June 2017 Posted 13 June 2017 I hope he doesn't have a bloody release clause!!
Guest Cujek Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 On 2017-6-13 at 11:02, tickler28 said: Fits the Spurs mould...young...energetic and raw talent Also a bottler at the vital moment, arrogant and whingey?
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 1 minute ago, Cujek said: Also a bottler at the vital moment, arrogant and whingey?
surrifox Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 (edited) On 13/06/2017 at 10:02, tickler28 said: Fits the Spurs mould...young...energetic and raw talent . Also possibly can be tapped up and bought cheap if there is a buyout clause and then sold at a huge profit Edited 14 June 2017 by surrifox
Russell sprout Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 3 hours ago, Cujek said: Also a bottler at the vital moment, arrogant and whingey? Sounds like mahrez
Clever Fox Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 3 hours ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: He should be well suited at Spuds so. They know all about bottling it.
desertfox2 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 Quite simple with Gray knuckle down, work hard, stop winging and work on an end product and he could go to the very, very top. But the idea he would play more at Spurs than with us is ridiculous. Who are spurs going to drop for him at the moment? There's no doubting his talent and with an end product he could have a breakthrough season. It's not by chance that Vardy Mahrez are now world wide names coming from lower leagues through playing with us. Clearly we have the coaching set up to develop players. His problem unlike Vardy and Mahrez is he's never taken his chances and forced his way in. 1
gurru991 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 Getting playing time is in his own hands. Make it so Shakey has to play him. Truth be told if he can't make the starting lineup here he won't have a hope in hell at Liverpool or Tottenham
jayfox26 Posted 14 June 2017 Posted 14 June 2017 Gray apparently isnt happy as he doesn't play much at Leicester. So instead he'll join spurs where he'll play even less. Seems likely to me. And we all know that Spurs don't pay wages like we do. I'd be amazed if we lost anyone to Spurs!
waylander Posted 15 June 2017 Posted 15 June 2017 Potential to be more frustrating the mahrez but both can be amazing. We will keep them both.?
Bert Posted 15 June 2017 Posted 15 June 2017 On 13 June 2017 at 10:01, lgfualol said: I just can't see this one happening. If he did move there you just know he would suddenly have godly end-product. He would play less there than he would here.
davieG Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 Tottenham Hotspur are considering another move for Leicester City winger Demarai Gray in the summer, sources close to the London club have told ESPN FC. Spurs expressed an interest in Gray last summer, but Leicester refused to consider offers and boss Mauricio Pochettino has continued to keep an eye on his situation at the King Power Stadium. ADVERTISEMENT Gray has made 14 starts in the Premier League this season, with another 16 coming off the bench. The 21-year-old, who has contributed four goals and three assists and is the current captain of England's Under-21s, is expected to consider his future due to his lack of regular starts. Pochettino wants to augment his attacking options and is keen to continue buying young players who he can develop.
MC Prussian Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 3 minutes ago, davieG said: Tottenham Hotspur are considering another move for Leicester City winger Demarai Gray in the summer, sources close to the London club have told ESPN FC. Spurs expressed an interest in Gray last summer, but Leicester refused to consider offers and boss Mauricio Pochettino has continued to keep an eye on his situation at the King Power Stadium. ADVERTISEMENT Gray has made 14 starts in the Premier League this season, with another 16 coming off the bench. The 21-year-old, who has contributed four goals and three assists and is the current captain of England's Under-21s, is expected to consider his future due to his lack of regular starts. Pochettino wants to augment his attacking options and is keen to continue buying young players who he can develop... ... in the U23s. 2
Wymsey Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 (edited) Reckon he'd go in an instant. A big London club with ambition (although some on here won't admit that they're a bigger club..), but probably be a bit-part player like at LCFC currently. Edited 18 April 2018 by Wymeswold fox 1
WigstonWanderer Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 What sort of money are they offering I wonder
woznotwos Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 Just now, WigstonWanderer said: What sort of money are they offering I wonder This exactly , you would expect a considerable sum for him . Anything under £25million would be bad business i believe.
ozleicester Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 I think Demari will really blossom next season, he has had some time now and sees what he needs and i think Puel is the kind of manager he needs. Would be dispaointed to lose him now.
Guest Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 4 minutes ago, ozleicester said: I think Demari will really blossom next season, he has had some time now and sees what he needs and i think Puel is the kind of manager he needs. Would be dispaointed to lose him now. Possibly but I'd rather see him on the right, getting to the byeline and crossing.
Stevosevic Posted 18 April 2018 Posted 18 April 2018 21 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Reckon he'd go in an instant. A big London club with ambition (although some on here won't admit that they're a bigger club..), but probably be a bit-part player like at LCFC currently. You couldn't blame him. Thankfully we've got him on a new deal so can command a bigger fee than this time last year.
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