Guest SO1 Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 37 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: The "big teams" are box office. They have the most fans. They sell papers, they ring into radio stations. Doesn't really cause me much ire. Chris Kamara? Did he? I don't remember that. I can only speak as I find and he's been incredibly lovely towards me. That is true. Don't have strong opinions? You'll get less airtime. I doubt many pundits can't stand us. 99.9% of them loved our title-winning story. Fans of every club get sensitive towards any perceived criticism or any perceived bias towards other teams. Wow sounds like a business. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 1 hour ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: The "big teams" are box office. They have the most fans. They sell papers, they ring into radio stations. Doesn't really cause me much ire. Chris Kamara? Did he? I don't remember that. I can only speak as I find and he's been incredibly lovely towards me. That is true. Don't have strong opinions? You'll get less airtime. I doubt many pundits can't stand us. 99.9% of them loved our title-winning story. Fans of every club get sensitive towards any perceived criticism or any perceived bias towards other teams. You have a very different memory of pundits during our title winning season to what i do then. I would love anyone to find me one clip from that whole season of Souness or Merson being remotely positive about us. Fans loved it, some on BBC loved it. Most hated the fact we were almost belittling what it means to win a title and their own personal achievements as a result. I remember the build up to the 2-0 win over Sunderland quite vividly. Souness on the pitch quite scathing in his assessment of us and how Tottenham would still catch us. Merson similarly wouldn't stop saying we weren't going to win it, until we did. To add to that, they were all so embarrassed to get it wrong all that season that they couldn't wait to shit on us when we sacked St.Ranieri. The big 6 might sell papers and be box office, but if we extinguish any sort of competitiveness at the top like they are trying to - it will kill football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddybad Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 23 minutes ago, Gamble92 said: You have a very different memory of pundits during our title winning season to what i do then. I would love anyone to find me one clip from that whole season of Souness or Merson being remotely positive about us. Fans loved it, some on BBC loved it. Most hated the fact we were almost belittling what it means to win a title and their own personal achievements as a result. I remember the build up to the 2-0 win over Sunderland quite vividly. Souness on the pitch quite scathing in his assessment of us and how Tottenham would still catch us. Merson similarly wouldn't stop saying we weren't going to win it, until we did. To add to that, they were all so embarrassed to get it wrong all that season that they couldn't wait to shit on us when we sacked St.Ranieri. The big 6 might sell papers and be box office, but if we extinguish any sort of competitiveness at the top like they are trying to - it will kill football. The world's press were almost universally loving our story - it sold papers across the globe. You're being incredibly touchy imo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballwipe Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 2 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: The "big teams" are box office. They have the most fans. They sell papers, they ring into radio stations. Doesn't really cause me much ire. Chris Kamara? Did he? I don't remember that. I can only speak as I find and he's been incredibly lovely towards me. That is true. Don't have strong opinions? You'll get less airtime. I doubt many pundits can't stand us. 99.9% of them loved our title-winning story. Fans of every club get sensitive towards any perceived criticism or any perceived bias towards other teams. Exactly. People know that pundits can be extremely cliche, controversial and cause outrage because A) they don't do enough research or B) are playing up to get attention. Yet people still whine when we're not featured on the shows. Let the big clubs get raged up about something that doesn't matter, just be happy we're not being talked about. In an era and an age where there are literally hundreds of pundits, thousands of hours of airtime and only so many takes/opinions that can be had, some really need to learn to filter out what they read, listen to. The weird reflex to lash out at anything that isn't adulation is weird (especially in fully grown adults). I have my list of people whose opinions on Leicester I'll actually take notice of. I'd recommend others do the same and just laugh/shrug off the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 52 minutes ago, Toddybad said: The world's press were almost universally loving our story - it sold papers across the globe. You're being incredibly touchy imo Global/International media adored us. They weren't as invested in 'The Big 6(tm)' as Sky/BT are, and underdog stories are particularly sought after. In the UK it was definitely a lot more mixed, though. Of course you had a lot of the more neutral pundits/fans who were singing our praises, but the majority of pundits nowadays are former players of the top sides and were definitely riled by us gatecrashing the party and showing up their former clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: PS not having a pop at anyone but I don't think it's all that fair to speculate on someone's possible relapse based on a few shitty opinions not in our favour. But that's just me It wasn't what he said, it was his manner and demeanour that concerned me. I never suggested relapse, I just don't think he's well. I do, however, wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fox92 Posted 12 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 12 November 2019 Good short listen. Keane and Mourinho seem to enjoy us and Kompany was initially surprised Youri chose us. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: Good short listen. Keane and Mourinho seem to enjoy us and Kompany was initially surprised Youri chose us. Cant wait to see Tielemans and Maddison producing in the Champions League next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said: It wasn't what he said, it was his manner and demeanour that concerned me. I never suggested relapse, I just don't think he's well. I do, however, wish him well. I agree. I mentioned similar in another thread and I hope nobody took it the wrong way. He doesn’t seem “himself” in the clip from soccer Saturday. Addiction is a bastard, but that’s a conversation for another thread I think. I hope he’s okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 17 minutes ago, Koke said: Cant wait to see Tielemans and Maddison producing in the Champions League next season. Same. Hopefully for us together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 2 hours ago, Fox92 said: Good short listen. Keane and Mourinho seem to enjoy us and Kompany was initially surprised Youri chose us. Why was he surprised ?? Nice little sneer on his face when he said Leicester. Not all pundits make it quite so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stadt Posted 12 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 12 November 2019 Just now, Spudulike said: Why was he surprised ?? Nice little sneer on his face when he said Leicester. Not all pundits make it quite so obvious. Take your tinfoil hat off you drainpipe 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 4 hours ago, Fox92 said: Good short listen. Keane and Mourinho seem to enjoy us and Kompany was initially surprised Youri chose us. Bet Kompany thought he'd join him at Anderlecht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samilktray Posted 12 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 12 November 2019 2 hours ago, Spudulike said: Why was he surprised ?? Nice little sneer on his face when he said Leicester. Not all pundits make it quite so obvious. I reckon 80% of Leicester fans were surprised he came here because he wouldn’t look out of place at Barca or Bayern or a club of that ilk. Don’t think we realise how much of a coup he was tbh 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm1 Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 2 hours ago, Spudulike said: Why was he surprised ?? Nice little sneer on his face when he said Leicester. Not all pundits make it quite so obvious. To be fair to him, he rightly called us a top 6 team after his wonder goal last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 6 hours ago, Toddybad said: The world's press were almost universally loving our story - it sold papers across the globe. You're being incredibly touchy imo The world's press is not who I'm talking about. Go back to articles and any clips you can find of Souness and Merson etc from that season. They couldn't stand what little Leicester were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 3 hours ago, Manini said: I agree. I mentioned similar in another thread and I hope nobody took it the wrong way. He doesn’t seem “himself” in the clip from soccer Saturday. Addiction is a bastard, but that’s a conversation for another thread I think. I hope he’s okay. In suprised you can tell a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gamble92 Posted 12 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 12 November 2019 5 hours ago, Xen said: Global/International media adored us. They weren't as invested in 'The Big 6(tm)' as Sky/BT are, and underdog stories are particularly sought after. In the UK it was definitely a lot more mixed, though. Of course you had a lot of the more neutral pundits/fans who were singing our praises, but the majority of pundits nowadays are former players of the top sides and were definitely riled by us gatecrashing the party and showing up their former clubs. Thank you. Can't believe what short memories everyone have. It's still happening now, and it will get louder and louder if there's a genuine chance of us making big strides towards crashing that top 6 on a regular occasion. Those 6 clubs arent just clubs. They are global brands that believe they have a right to be the 6 sides that make the most money in this country. They're almost putting the competitiveness of the sport aside and saying we want the money we deserve and the rest of you deserve whats left. The sheer arrogance of this is filtered down to ex players of all these clubs who only have a vested interest in those clubs. Any other clubs are given limited analysis and the knowledge is always extremely limited (usually theyll know a few players strengths if hes come from a big 6 club etc). Just wait for Merson and Danny Murphy to try and sell each player off for us in the summer in every single article Sky and BBC let them hand over to their poor editors. And little Leicester can go back into their rightful place while the elite stay elite. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mickyblueeyes Posted 12 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 12 November 2019 1 hour ago, Gamble92 said: Thank you. Can't believe what short memories everyone have. It's still happening now, and it will get louder and louder if there's a genuine chance of us making big strides towards crashing that top 6 on a regular occasion. Those 6 clubs arent just clubs. They are global brands that believe they have a right to be the 6 sides that make the most money in this country. They're almost putting the competitiveness of the sport aside and saying we want the money we deserve and the rest of you deserve whats left. The sheer arrogance of this is filtered down to ex players of all these clubs who only have a vested interest in those clubs. Any other clubs are given limited analysis and the knowledge is always extremely limited (usually theyll know a few players strengths if hes come from a big 6 club etc). Just wait for Merson and Danny Murphy to try and sell each player off for us in the summer in every single article Sky and BBC let them hand over to their poor editors. And little Leicester can go back into their rightful place while the elite stay elite. But that will happen and continue to happen and it’s up to the club to bring themselves out of that scenario and into the elite bubble. it use to be the top 2: Arsenal and Man U then it became the top 4: adding Chelsea and Liverpool to the mix then, finally the top 6: with Man City and Spurs being added to the elite. Go back 5/10 years and Man City and Spurs fans were probably having the same arguments with the media that we are having now. Man City, in their early years of the takeover were not taken seriously. They were always seen as a side that will be in United’s shadow. Spurs were a joke. Remember Sir Alex Ferguson half time team talk where he said to his players: “lads, it’s spurs”. Those clubs came up only recently. Its up to us to break or attempt to break the norm or the perceived norm at this stage. Our business next summer has to be on point. We cocked up 2016 massively and since then have traded like a big club. Players will leave. They still leave the elite 6 now (Sanchez, Coutinho, Walker, Suarez). It’s how we replace those players that matters. Consistency leads to expectations, expectation is what makes you thrive for success and success brings about a normality to the rest that Leicester should be up there. for now though, we have to take these comments which we don’t like because it’s the elite six that sell the game around the world. We need to want to be a part of those games. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddybad Posted 12 November 2019 Share Posted 12 November 2019 1 hour ago, Gamble92 said: The world's press is not who I'm talking about. Go back to articles and any clips you can find of Souness and Merson etc from that season. They couldn't stand what little Leicester were doing. I don't think it was that they couldn't stand us, they just couldn't believe it. If it had been Southampton you wouldn't have believed it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIKTOR-LE5 Posted 13 November 2019 Share Posted 13 November 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYpYEH9WU4U Claude, Ty and Kevin Campbell compare City v Arsenal first elevens 3:00 min onward. Aubameyang has a better resume the Vardy? but has he ever led his team to a league title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 13 November 2019 Share Posted 13 November 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 19:47, easilee said: Soz if already posted. Really enjoyed this one.....Can you imagine the destruction of teams if the final selection ever was ? !!!! No mention of Albrighton but did find time to mention Jakupovic, Hamer and Schwarzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 13 November 2019 Share Posted 13 November 2019 6 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said: But that will happen and continue to happen and it’s up to the club to bring themselves out of that scenario and into the elite bubble. it use to be the top 2: Arsenal and Man U then it became the top 4: adding Chelsea and Liverpool to the mix then, finally the top 6: with Man City and Spurs being added to the elite. Go back 5/10 years and Man City and Spurs fans were probably having the same arguments with the media that we are having now. Man City, in their early years of the takeover were not taken seriously. They were always seen as a side that will be in United’s shadow. Spurs were a joke. Remember Sir Alex Ferguson half time team talk where he said to his players: “lads, it’s spurs”. Those clubs came up only recently. Its up to us to break or attempt to break the norm or the perceived norm at this stage. Our business next summer has to be on point. We cocked up 2016 massively and since then have traded like a big club. Players will leave. They still leave the elite 6 now (Sanchez, Coutinho, Walker, Suarez). It’s how we replace those players that matters. Consistency leads to expectations, expectation is what makes you thrive for success and success brings about a normality to the rest that Leicester should be up there. for now though, we have to take these comments which we don’t like because it’s the elite six that sell the game around the world. We need to want to be a part of those games. Was just about to say the same thing. He talks about people having short memories but talks as though the premier league is a decade old. Man U were the big 1 at the beginning with a yearly challenger who would step up to the plate, Villa and Norwich were once considered as their rivals for league success. Blackburn obviously came to spoil the party and Newcastle came along to try their luck. Then Arsene arrived at Arsenal and pretty much revolutionised the english game. The dominance of Man U was all of a sudden a genuine 2 horse race. Then Abromovic came to Chelsea and money started to take over, this 2 horse race became a 3 way battle. Sky added Liverpool to the mix to sell "Super Sunday" on account on their history and they were almost there or there abouts, a big 4 was formed. Man City were then taken over by some very rich people, and again to sell more games Sky were pushing them into the mix, to even it out they added Spurs what with their recent history and the "top 6" was formed. This "top 6" is just a myth that sky have created. It is up to us to break the mould, we have to make ourselves an "elite" team. We're on the cusp of it now, and as you say, next summer is key, providing we have European qualification sorted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ARTY_FOX Posted 13 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 13 November 2019 3 hours ago, VIKTOR-LE5 said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYpYEH9WU4U Claude, Ty and Kevin Campbell compare City v Arsenal first elevens 3:00 min onward. Aubameyang has a better resume the Vardy? but has he ever led his team to a league title. Ricardo doesnt get in their combined 11. 'Because if ricardo is so good why is he at leicester' Would never take ozil over maddison The guy trying to argue torreira over N'didi aswell. Oh my days they are the most delusional fan base in the world 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 13 November 2019 Share Posted 13 November 2019 Speaking of big 2/big 4/big 6, anyone have any others from yesteryear? Slighty before my time but were Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Spurs, Man U considered a big 5 in the 80s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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