DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 Well here we are in January sitting just inside the top half of the table. Relegation is not a problem, but we shall not be in any European competition. Some of our best players, are well below their known standard, such as Harry Maguire, Ben Chilwell,, and Jamie Vardy. We seem to be worse than too complacent. My view is that we are stagnating as a team. Something is wrong. Any ideas?
HighPeakFox Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 Respect your point of view, but am I allowed to disagree?
dayday Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 I think we’re building a very good side which can only improve, and if we can strengthen with 2 or 3 top additions, who knows where this team can go.
Jaspa Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 We're not in the top half of the League and we're a week into February. Are we stagnating? I don't think so, this season has seen an influx of new players and the clearout of a few of the old boys, even Wes has been left out of the last two starting line-ups. Bringing Jonny Evans in who has done well apart from missing a couple of sitters against ManU and Maguire who wasn't bad against United at all, certainly not sub-par. Barnes started two games recently too, another vibrant shot in the arm . . . but the fans still grumble, and boo.
reynard Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 9 minutes ago, dayday said: I think we’re building a very good side which can only improve, and if we can strengthen with 2 or 3 top additions, who knows where this team can go. Man city?
Grebfromgrebland Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 Well the pond life in the stands seems to be increasing....
RODNEY FERNIO Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 Some of the inter play against United was quite breathtaking … albeit without a real cutting edge. So yes given the age of the squad we are progressing. The problem a club of our size is always going to have though is the big club vultures hovering above.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 One man's consolidating is another man's stagnating?
shade Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 I genuinely don’t get it, I’m not usually a doom monger but when i look at our toothless, creativeless performances and then look at the results, they don’t make pretty reading.
st albans fox Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 Not with all the young talent we have - no ........
stripeyfox Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 hopefully not. But a cautionary look at the likes of West Brom and Stoke who managed to go from being established PL sides (possibly stagnating in mid table) to relegation in no time at all...
Ian Nacho Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 1 hour ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said: Well here we are in January sitting just inside the top half of the table. Relegation is not a problem, but we shall not be in any European competition. Some of our best players, are well below their known standard, such as Harry Maguire, Ben Chilwell,, and Jamie Vardy. We seem to be worse than too complacent. My view is that we are stagnating as a team. Something is wrong. Any ideas? It's difficult to get behind someone's point who can't even get the month correct let alone our league position.
oxford blue Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 1 hour ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said: Some of our best players, are well below their known standard, such as Harry Maguire, Ben Chilwell, Both these were outstanding v Liverpool...
VLC86 Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 1 hour ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said: Well here we are in January sitting just inside the top half of the table. Relegation is not a problem, but we shall not be in any European competition. Some of our best players, are well below their known standard, such as Harry Maguire, Ben Chilwell,, and Jamie Vardy. We seem to be worse than too complacent. My view is that we are stagnating as a team. Something is wrong. Any ideas? If we were stagnating, Would having your chairman tragically killed at the stadium he a reason to accept it maybe until the end of the season?
VLC86 Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 7 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: It's difficult to get behind someone's point who can't even get the month correct let alone our league position. The burn.
surrifox Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 2 hours ago, stripeyfox said: hopefully not. But a cautionary look at the likes of West Brom and Stoke who managed to go from being established PL sides (possibly stagnating in mid table) to relegation in no time at all... Exactly what worries me . A very good comparison . Also we have stopped scoring and JV is key to that ,at the age of 32 he isn’t going to improve . We don’t score from set pieces or midfield it’s got to be a concern
HighPeakFox Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 The old chestnut of 'established PL sides' is just that imo - up until this point, only 6 or 7 can be said to be certs to remain.
The Doctor Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 Well no. This has always been a rebuild job - remember that of those that remain from the title win, only Albrighton is under 30. We wasted the following 2 summer windows, spending near 90m on Musa, Slimani, Silva and Iborra. The first stage was done last summer, and we've now got a young defence (only Evans from last weekend over 30, and there's two under 23s in ready to take over from him in the near future), and a number of young attacking midfielders. Expect the next stage in the summer with another 6/7 players off the books (King, Okazaki, Fuchs, Simpson, Morgan, Slimani, Silva) freeing up a few hundred thousand pounds per week in wages and a number of squad spaces, with a defensive midfielder more capable of quarter-backing as it were, and a couple of strikers to ultimately displace Vardy. We're rebuilding and consolidating on the pitch, and developing brilliantly off it. There's a clear path laid out to be a real force in 3-5 years if it works properly.
StriderHiryu Posted 6 February 2019 Posted 6 February 2019 Definitely not! If you look at the short term results you might have a point, but we are one of the most forward thinking clubs in the country: Youngest squad in the league All key players tied down to long term contracts; Chilwell, Maguire, Vardy, Kasper, Ndidi New training academy rumoured to be the best in the Premier League if not Europe under development Stadium improvements to increase the size of the stadium to around the 40K mark More young players breaking through; Harvey Barnes, Hamza Choudhury. Another class one on his way back next year in Benkovic Just picked up one of the most highly rated young central midfielders in Europe. Yes it's loan, but it's a start Older players are being transitioned out of the squad If you want an example of a club that is stagnating, look at Burnley, Southampton or Everton. The problem is our fanbase expect us to punch above our weight every season when over the course of time we've spent most of our time in the Championship. May I remind you that the season before we shocked the world, we were bottom for the longest amount of time ever spent by a club who went onto survive. 10 years ago when we were in League One, I dreamed of returning to the days when we were a mediocre Premier League team like when MON was in charge! Even if as a supporter you hate the manager, you should still get behind the club. We are run brilliantly and are going places. Above the club shop, the catchphrase "New Horizons" is put there for a reason. We aren't going to get there over night, but we are building the club and squad slowly but surely.
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