UniFox21 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 13 minutes ago, That_Dude said: Our FBs and Ndidi will have a tough day at SB. Emerson, Pulisic and Pedro are a handful, pacey and tricky and their midfield is class with Kanté running the show. Their real weakness is obviously the CBs, neither Zouma or Christensen gave a reassuring impression, although the former was much better in Istanbul than at OT (which wasn't a great feat). They're also vulnerable on the counter with their high line defense, as well as on set-pieces, and marauding FBs and lack bench depth. Giroud can give us a headache with his aerial ability and his holding play but Abraham while blessed with pace is wasteful. I don't think Ndidi left alone with the dirty job and think that Choudhury will be starting again unless we put Pérez behind Vardy. We absolutely need width against this lot. I'd go: Kasper Ricardo Evans Soy Chilwell Ndidi Choudhury Tielemans Albrighton Maddison Barnes Vardy or Kasper Ricardo Evans Soy Chilwell Ndidi Tielemans Albrighton Perez Barnes Vardy Don't know if Praet is ready though, but I can't see a diamond away against Chelsea. Not sure we can sneak the 12th player on in the first formation mate
That_Dude Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 2 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Not sure we can sneak the 12th player on in the first formation mate Damn copy paste. Would have been ideal though.
UniFox21 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 6 minutes ago, That_Dude said: Damn copy paste. Would have been ideal though. Agree with you though. I think we need wingers to pin back their full backs and wingers who seem to be the most dangerous players for them. But I also think we need energy in midfield; I'd almost be tempted to go Ndidi, Hamza and YT/JM. With those 3 we may lose some creativity, but sure as hell have ability to win the ball back and hassle the midfield trio. Id be in 2 minds as to whether to Barnes and Perez under instruction to stay wide. Or go for JM with one of the two and utilise the gaps that appear in and around the back line
lestajigs Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 8 hours ago, Master Fox said: If you take N’golo out of their team they’d be relegated. They have a lot to thank us for. God I hope we thrash them. No they would not, this has got to be the most stupid comment i have read on here, (and there’s been a few) 😂
norwichfox Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 19 hours ago, TonyN11 said: We need to get back to the traditions of Association Football.... Leicester: Schmeichel Justin Chilwell Soyuncu Morgan Evans Gray Tielemans Vardy Maddison Albrighton Sub (for injured player): Ward Chelsea: Arrizabalaga Rudiger Alonso Christensen Jorginho A.N. Other Kante Barclay Abraham Willian Pedro Sub (for injured player) Loftus-Cheek It's a bit like looking on the School notice board in the 60's to see if your "in" At last a formation I understand, every kid standing on his designated spot at kick offs.
StriderHiryu Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 Hopefully Lampard sets us his defensive system to lead to marking situations like this one again... Though admittedly with the "quality" of our set pieces against Wolves, this would still work out fine for Chelsea!
That_Dude Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 4 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Agree with you though. I think we need wingers to pin back their full backs and wingers who seem to be the most dangerous players for them. But I also think we need energy in midfield; I'd almost be tempted to go Ndidi, Hamza and YT/JM. With those 3 we may lose some creativity, but sure as hell have ability to win the ball back and hassle the midfield trio. Id be in 2 minds as to whether to Barnes and Perez under instruction to stay wide. Or go for JM with one of the two and utilise the gaps that appear in and around the back line Agreed. Puel did it last season and we got a win there. They're only weak at the tip and at the back (which could change if Rüdiger plays). The rest is fast, very comfortable with the ball and they combined well yesterday. Pedro and Pulisic ran riot on the wings. We need pace that's why I'd only play Perez/Maddison behind Vardy. Maddison out wide would a great disadvantage imo, as his natural tendancy to drift in would leave Chilwell alone dealing with Pedro and Emerson. Perez in the Shinji position to harass and disrupt their attacking as soon as they get the ball. However the man to take out of the game is Kanté, if that's even possible. Everything starts from him and almost every attack is broken by him. Many criticized Sarry for playing him on the right but his overall play seemed to have greatly benefited from it. At least from what I saw yesterday.
UniFox21 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 2 minutes ago, That_Dude said: Agreed. Puel did it last season and we got a win there. They're only weak at the tip and at the back (which could change if Rüdiger plays). The rest is fast, very comfortable with the ball and they combined well yesterday. Pedro and Pulisic ran riot on the wings. We need pace that's why I'd only play Perez/Maddison behind Vardy. Maddison out wide would a great disadvantage imo, as his natural tendancy to drift in would leave Chilwell alone dealing with Pedro and Emerson. Perez in the Shinji position to harass and disrupt their attacking as soon as they get the ball. However the man to take out of the game is Kanté, if that's even possible. Everything starts from him and almost every attack is broken by him. Many criticized Sarry for playing him on the right but his overall play seemed to have greatly benefited from it. At least from what I saw yesterday. They're definitely there to be got at and we have the ability to cause them issues. They've been shown to be weak to pace running at them. Will be interesting to see how BR sets this up.
That_Dude Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 18 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: They're definitely there to be got at and we have the ability to cause them issues. They've been shown to be weak to pace running at them. Will be interesting to see how BR sets this up. I think that, tactically, BR has the upper hand and Chelsea have a weak bench. It will be a tough game but we still can get something out of it, if we don't concede first.
UniFox21 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 3 minutes ago, That_Dude said: I think that, tactically, BR has the upper hand and Chelsea have a weak bench. It will be a tough game but we still can get something out of it, if we don't concede first. We should have a fatigue advantage as well, Especially this early on. Chelsea have just played 120mins. Let's say they travel back today, which'll be recovery. Theyd maybe have a light session on Friday. The United and Liverpool games should give great insight into where we need to defend and how we can get at Chelsea.
Blue Ed Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 I wonder if BR will play the same starting line up against Chelsea. Unpopular here if he does but he might think get 2 clean sheets in the first two games could set us up for the season.
Foxxed Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 4 minutes ago, Blue Ed said: I wonder if BR will play the same starting line up against Chelsea. Unpopular here if he does but he might think get 2 clean sheets in the first two games could set us up for the season. I could understand two DMs against Chelsea at home. Besides the fatigue of the season is yet to set in. I just hope we bring on Barnes sooner if we're still unable to hit the target.
Paninistickers Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 Dump the diamond! I always liked Claude's 4231. Especially against the big teams. It suited our personnel, kept us lively up front (and therefore the oppo wary of us), protected on the flanks and protected in front the centre halves through the middle. Choudhury (who neatly filled in for marauding full backs last year as well as midfielder disruption) with wilf. Maddison, Tielemans and Albrighton (or barnes) interchangeable as the attacking midfield three. I'm afraid Perez would get the old heave ho. I thought he was garbage v Wolves.
Deeg67 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 41 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Dump the diamond! I always liked Claude's 4231. Especially against the big teams. It suited our personnel, kept us lively up front (and therefore the oppo wary of us), protected on the flanks and protected in front the centre halves through the middle. Choudhury (who neatly filled in for marauding full backs last year as well as midfielder disruption) with wilf. Maddison, Tielemans and Albrighton (or barnes) interchangeable as the attacking midfield three. I'm afraid Perez would get the old heave ho. I thought he was garbage v Wolves. Chelsea would be ecstatic if we went with that lineup. It was a disaster against Wolves and really should only be taken out of mothballs for the likes of Pep and Klopp's boys. Maybe Spurs, maybe not. If you like a 4231 (and I agree it often worked under Puel) I think you go with Wilf and Praet playing behind Tielemans, Maddison and Perez (on the right) with Vardy as a lone striker. I like Tielemans deeper as a general rule, but with Praet behind him I think the formation could be balanced enough to work.
TonyN11 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 22 hours ago, pmcla26 said: Really don’t understand what you’re saying by this post W M Formation and player nos. 1 to 11 with one sub, no.12 Chelsea's no. 6 was Drinkwater hence an other
Tommy G Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 Think Chelsea looked good in 1st half especially last night, they cant lose 3 on the bounce? L for me, just being realistic.
TonyN11 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 14 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: Don't think Kante is the same player he was since he left the club. Perhaps it's a lack of confidence due to knowing that Chelsea are under scrutiny following their transfer ban. Agree, if anything, he's got better
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 5 hours ago, weller54 said: Abraham! Only good enough for Lincoln imo! "Apart from that, Mrs Lincoln, what did you think of the play.?"
Foxin_Mad Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy G said: Think Chelsea looked good in 1st half especially last night, they cant lose 3 on the bounce? L for me, just being realistic. Unless we become a lot lot better we are losing this one for sure. This means we have to beat Sheff Utd the following week, although we have a poor record there, then Bournemouth at home. Certainly not any easy games!
UPinCarolina Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 2 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said: "Apart from that, Mrs Lincoln, what did you think of the play.?" "First time I'd ever seen someone literally break a leg on stage."
adejo92 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 I'm sorry but sticking Vardy upfront alone, which is likely to happen, will eliminate him from the match. Its alright going defensive and playing for a point but Chelsea have the quality to cut through even the best defensive teams. It's a given that Kante will absolutely dominate midfield and cut out almost all chance of Tielemans creating anything for Vardy to latch on to. I suspect this will be 30 minutes of negative possession football before Chelsea's quality begins to show - Then I fear.
Ric Flair Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 Mason Mount showed last night as an attacking central midfielder how to do a job on the left in a 4-3-3. If Maddison had that same level of versatility then I think we'd have found the ideal formation and personnel to play against the best sides in the league but currently he is the weak link against the top sides in that formation. I would be tempted to play Albrighton or Barnes and if Rodgers is brave then Maddison over Choudhury but if not then Maddison sadly has to drop to the bench.
Shane Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 52 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Mason Mount showed last night as an attacking central midfielder how to do a job on the left in a 4-3-3. If Maddison had that same level of versatility then I think we'd have found the ideal formation and personnel to play against the best sides in the league but currently he is the weak link against the top sides in that formation. I would be tempted to play Albrighton or Barnes and if Rodgers is brave then Maddison over Choudhury but if not then Maddison sadly has to drop to the bench. Any chance for a Praet debut? Choudhury too defensive & Maddison too attack minded. So what about Praet? He is supposed to be more of an all round player, who can get forward and create but also do the dirty work defensively. Might be early in his Leicester career, but I bet new arrivals at other clubs will be involved this weekend.. Pepe, Iwobi, Ceballos, Saint-Maximin, Sarr to name a few..
UniFox21 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 2 minutes ago, Shane said: Any chance for a Praet debut? Choudhury too defensive & Maddison too attack minded. So what about Praet? He is supposed to be more of an all round player, who can get forward and create but also do the dirty work defensively. Might be early in his Leicester career, but I bet new arrivals at other clubs will be involved this weekend.. Pepe, Iwobi, Ceballos, Saint-Maximin, Sarr to name a few.. You make a good point but your examples are terrible. Everton were in need of a winger, so Iwobi will probably play. Same with Arsenal and a CM, Newcastle with a winger.
Fox92 Posted 15 August 2019 Posted 15 August 2019 19 hours ago, That_Dude said: Zouma is an absolute car crash. Their defence really isn't great at all. Zouma and Christiensen can be got at. Azpelicueta has been a good defender for Chelsea and the league in general though.
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