Caglar Soyuncu emerges as new cult hero at Leicester City

[Vindaloo FOX]

He has had so many different CB playing with him this season.

 

If we can just get a constant back four again we will see him at his best again I feel.

[foxinsocks]

5 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

He has had so many different CB playing with him this season.

 

If we can just get a constant back four again we will see him at his best again I feel.

I think this is true.  I think he needs to try minfulness to improve his focus in games.  Imo he positioning isnt alway right and so he is prone to lung in or be racing to catch up. He should watch his van dijk just strolls around.  

 

He should use videos..  freezes irlt... discus what he should do and conteast it with what he actually did.  This will help him realise mistakes and biases.   It is time consuming to do.

Imo every player should have a coach to prepare such exercises. 

[volpeazzurro]

As people have rightly pointed out, there was a time when Soyuncu was the next best thing, weren't we fearful of Liverpool coming in for him at one time?

 

A naturally right footed player, he'd play on the right of two for Turkey and the left of 2 for us and managed both equally as well. He grew in stature under the protective eye of Evans. 

 

It was when Rodgers put him out on the extreme left of a 3 that the cracks started to appear for me, particularly when asked to cover a more left back position, he struggled and it didn't come natural and at times he panicked and would appear to lose confidence. 

 

Whatever our thoughts regarding John Terry, for me, he was a bloody good centre half of the type he was. In a protracted interview I heard him saying that whilst he played on the left of a two, just move him over a few feet to the right centre half position and he wasn't comfortable and he felt his performances were greatly impaired. Whilst admitting there was no logic to it, he said that on the left he had a picture of the game in his head and subsequently his place on the pitch and at an elite level he personally needed that. He also commented that he knew of midfielders the same.

 

This is what I believe has happened to Soyuncu and it was Rodgers that put him in an unsuitable position. In fairness to Rodgers, there was a time where tactically he believed we would be better with 3 at the back and that can be fully understood. However, like all positions on the pitch, you have to have the players comfortable and able to play those different positions and tactics. Unfortunately at times, Rodgers has persisted in putting round pegs in square holes when there have been viable alternatives and he merely repeated the same misguided mistakes believing more in tactics and systems than he did in his players abilities. This is not even taking into account the zonal marking Rodgers employed that managed to confuse and undermine a whole team let alone one individual. They're all like cats on a hot tin roof from set peices now due to Rodgers and his coaching staff.

 

For me, there's a lot of top football left in Soyuncu. We'll notice it most when he's playing under another manager next to another really competent centre half in a suitable position. I hope that is at Leicester. 

Edited 16 February 2022 by volpeazzurro

[5waller5]

26 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

I think this is true.  I think he needs to try minfulness to improve his focus in games.  Imo he positioning isnt alway right and so he is prone to lung in or be racing to catch up. He should watch his van dijk just strolls around.  

 

He should use videos..  freezes irlt... discus what he should do and conteast it with what he actually did.  This will help him realise mistakes and biases.   It is time consuming to do.

Imo every player should have a coach to prepare such exercises. 

Surely every Premier league player has coaches doing this with him already??

[sylofox]

19 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

He was abysmal for Turkey too

If his heads not right it's not going to get better in a couple of weeks.

[foxinsocks]

6 minutes ago, 5waller5 said:

Surely every Premier league player has coaches doing this with him already??

Nope... I dint think so... crazy

[5waller5]

Just now, foxinsocks said:

Nope... I dint think so... crazy

Wow!!! I’d have thought, with teams of analysts, video rooms etc, that sitting for an hour or two analysing decision making would be a routine part of every players’ week!! 
 

Shall we apply for the job when BR is sacked??

[Koke]

He's almost 26 years old. The fact that he needs his hand held by Evans or Thiago Silva or Rudiger says it all to me. At this age you should be at the very least hold your own if you're a Premier League defender. And in the case of crisis you should be the leader in that defence helping along  Amartey, Ndidi, Fofana, Vestergaard. You're the most experienced player with the most international caps 

 

Edited 16 February 2022 by Koke

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, 5waller5 said:

Wow!!! I’d have thought, with teams of analysts, video rooms etc, that sitting for an hour or two analysing decision making would be a routine part of every players’ week!! 
 

Shall we apply for the job when BR is sacked??

IMO too much trains is about team skills tight passing in boxes etc - then focus on formation and tactics to combat the next opponents - where is the time ofr individual agendas and deliberate practice.?

[UniFox21]

1 hour ago, sylofox said:

If his heads not right it's not going to get better in a couple of weeks.

I was referring to the euros mostly

[Suzie the Fox]

Should perhaps think about changing the name of this thread?  

[Ric Flair]

17 hours ago, Claridge said:

Not sure how the pace of play makes Calgary defend like an over excited 10 yr old. He has been rubbish for 6 months and dreadful for his nation as well. You can whittle and moan about Rodgers all you like,it’s Cags faullt

Maybe so, we certainly need 2 new CB's this summer.

[UniFox21]

8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Maybe so, we certainly need 2 new CB's this summer.

Exactly. 2 different types of CB too. 

An Evans mould player to rotate with Jonny, let's be honest he's on his final years as a player. And then a Soy/Fofana type of player

[Grebfromgrebland]

We will probably need 2 or 3 if Fofana goes as well.

 

Evans is probably done now as a regular option so he needs replacing. We can't depend on Amartey or Vestergaard so we need at least one to replace those 2 as well.

 

 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, UniFox21 said:

Exactly. 2 different types of CB too. 

An Evans mould player to rotate with Jonny, let's be honest he's on his final years as a player. And then a Soy/Fofana type of player

I think we've seen the last of Evans. I reckon we would do well to assume he'll never kick another ball for us again. Or at least not on a regular basis, I can see him being used about as much as big Wes was in his last season

[sacreblueits442]

10 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

I think this is true.  I think he needs to try minfulness to improve his focus in games.  Imo he positioning isnt alway right and so he is prone to lung in or be racing to catch up. He should watch his van dijk just strolls around.  

 

He should use videos..  freezes irlt... discus what he should do and conteast it with what he actually did.  This will help him realise mistakes and biases.   It is time consuming to do.

Imo every player should have a coach to prepare such exercises. 

....Man. City does that, even with their Juniors!!!

[sacreblueits442]

8 hours ago, foxinsocks said:

IMO too much trains is about team skills tight passing in boxes etc - then focus on formation and tactics to combat the next opponents - where is the time ofr individual agendas and deliberate practice.?

...it is common practice in Colleges and NFL teams!!!

 A one to one with the coach to review. If Man. City is incorporating this in their schedule then we can as well. Players will continually do the wrong thing if they do not understand what they are doing wrong. 

 I suggest some time ago that Demarai Gray would benefit from being coached in that way. 

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...it is common practice in Colleges and NFL teams!!!

 A one to one with the coach to review. If Man. City is incorporating this in their schedule then we can as well. Players will continually do the wrong thing if they do not understand what they are doing wrong. 

 I suggest some time ago that Demarai Gray would benefit from being coached in that way. 

We see players with poor decision making all the time...  I expect a coach will tell them... but they need their own coach who will prep and go over and over it.

The evidence is that we see player failing to change (ref grey, even chillwell stopped pushing forward , barnes being willing to run to the byeline  or pull the trigger... and dont get me started on kasper)

[foxinsocks]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...it is common practice in Colleges and NFL teams!!!

 A one to one with the coach to review. If Man. City is incorporating this in their schedule then we can as well. Players will continually do the wrong thing if they do not understand what they are doing wrong. 

 I suggest some time ago that Demarai Gray would benefit from being coached in that way. 

I remember Mourinho saying that rashford stsybehind to practice his free kicks for 20mins.... but all prem player should be involved in deliberate practice of skills and reviews of their decision making. 

There a great book by Anders erikssen called Peak.  It changes what you think.mst be possible in life

[sacreblueits442]

21 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

I remember Mourinho saying that rashford stsybehind to practice his free kicks for 20mins.... but all prem player should be involved in deliberate practice of skills and reviews of their decision making. 

There a great book by Anders erikssen called Peak.  It changes what you think.mst be possible in life

...I have said the very same before, the player needs to take the initiative and find a way to improve their own game!!!

The coaching just do not pick up on where they need to concentrate on, we witness the same things over and over and the players will just continue to do what they have always done.  Someone needs to make them aware that aspects of their games needs to be worked on, if no one pulls them up on it, it will never be sorted.

[StanSP]

Not been in form for a very, very long time but today was quality. 

 

Managed a giant in Weghorst very well and barely put a foot wrong (apart from one slip). Other than that, solid all round and read the game well. Pleasing to see him play like he did today against a physical side. 

 

Definitely, for me, the biggest reason why Kasper was barely tested and why we kept a clean sheet. 

[Tielemans63]

I've been very critical of Cags this season so it's only fair to praise him tonight. Brilliant performance. The Soyuncu we know and love.

 

Absolutely owned Weghorst who we thought might dominate.

 

Big Dan was terrific too.

 

Keep it up Cags!

[kiddo]

Back to his best tonight. Cool under pressure, good range of passing and handled a difficult opponent with ease.

[Jaspa]

Quality tonight. Did he work very well and functioned with Amartey well, nice to see. Hope we see more because Cags is quality but has looked devoid of confidence for soo long.

[Raw Dykes]

Much, much better from Cags tonight. Burnley were about the last side I wanted us to face considering their strengths and our weaknesses, but Cags and Amartey handled them with ease. Nice surprise. Hope it acts as a confidence booster for them.