wokinghamfox Posted 1 July 2020 Posted 1 July 2020 Honestly looking at Man U fixtures, we will need to win all remaining games.
Gubbins Posted 1 July 2020 Posted 1 July 2020 Cant see us beating man utd currently even if we had a sizable upturn and regardless of how good we are and how bad they are we will never ever win away at Arsenal. Winning the other 4 games 'should' be enough but our room for error will be absolute zero.
deanolegend1989 Posted 1 July 2020 Posted 1 July 2020 Funny thing is we could of had this locked if we were just average it’s so frustrating. Chelseas loss at West Ham has given us at least a small chance, huge result for us. Chelsea will get at least to 65 with their fixtures and so will Utd. I think we need 10 points to stand a chance and so we probably need to get 4 points out the next 2 and then 2 big games vs Bournemouth and Sheffield Utd where if we can’t get 6/6 from them, we really don’t deserve top 4 anyway! The way Newcastle destroyed Bournemouth and Utd destroyed Sheffield Utd, there’s no excuse on the opposition. The next 2 results are crucial, we have slight chance but we need to pick pull something out of nothing it seems!
scinnell Posted 1 July 2020 Posted 1 July 2020 3 points ahead of 5th. Superior goal difference at +9. We need to win FOUR of our six remaining cup finals to GUARANTEE the Champions League. Everybody needs to chill out. We have been shocking since Christmas, but the lads need us more than ever in this run in. Turning on them on social media isn't going to help confidence.
scinnell Posted 1 July 2020 Posted 1 July 2020 Palace, Bournemouth and Sheff Utd need to be must wins IMO
Leicester_Loyal Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 Can someone do the maths? I hope we aren't reliant on a certain result in the Wolves vs. Chelsea game on the last day.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 2 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Can someone do the maths? I hope we aren't reliant on a certain result in the Wolves vs. Chelsea game on the last day. There are too many permutations still in play to be able to say whether or not we'd be reliant on that game or not. Ultimately, 4 wins would virtually guarantee top 4. 3 wins would likely be enough, but in question. Anything less and we'd need some pretty good fortune in other games to stay top 4 I would guess.
StanSP Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 1 minute ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Can someone do the maths? I hope we aren't reliant on a certain result in the Wolves vs. Chelsea game on the last day. If Man City ban is upheld, 5th will get CL. Wolves currently in 6th on 52 pts - maximum points they can get is 67 Arsenal currently in 7th on 49 pts - maximum is 64 Sheff Utd currently in 8th on 47 pts - maximum is 65 Tottenham currently in 9th on 45 - maximum is 63 We're on 58 pts so 3 more wins should do it I imagine. Teams in that bunch, including us, that still have to play each other so points will be taken off them anyway Arsenal vs Leicester Leicester vs Sheff Utd Tottenham vs Leicester Sheff Utd vs Wolves Tottenham vs Arsenal I've discounted Chelsea & Man Utd as I think they're in such good form they'll get several more points anyway. Plus, according to you, Chelsea play Chelsea anyway
Leicester_Loyal Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 I thought a few weeks back (was just after the Brighton game actually, feels like ages ago) 9 points would be enough, we've got 3 so far, but that depends if 5th gets CL, if it does then another 6 will be enough IMO. If only top 4 gets CL, then I reckon we could need another 8 or 9 points, but a lot will depend on the United result. Week of 13th July they reckon the decision for the CL ban will be announced.
Koke Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 In reality we should be out of sight, Its annoying that we could still throw away CL football. If Man City ban stands then I think we will make it. If not, then we are in trouble as Chelsea and Man Utd are in such good form.
KingsX Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 The fivethirtyeight model sees the top five as nearly done and dusted. But predicts a photo finish for third/fourth/fifth. I believe that is correct. With only five games left, fifth place is a huge ask for Wolves (still to play SHU, Everton, Burnley, Chelsea) or Arsenal (us, Spurs, Pool, Man City). Arsenal would have to run the table, and Wolves take at least four from five. Their fixtures don't set up for that. We're nearly home and dry unless Man City are reinstated and it becomes a top four race.
shailen Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 67 should be enough for CL, assuming it's only top 4. That's 9 points from 5 games which hopefully should be possible assuming we don't give Man Utd 3 points.
cruzFOX Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 We need that spirit of 15/16 season back when spuds said they were coming for us. have a photo of manu &. Chelski plastered all over the place to remind the players until their sick of seeing it. That will fire Them up!
nnfox Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 67 points should be enough (3 wins) providing one of those wins is against Utd. Then it will likely come down to goal difference. Ours is +9 better than Utd at the moment, could be very close come the end of the season though.
weller54 Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 Think we'll end up on 65 points.. question is will that be enough for 4th?.. Think United will finish 3rd.
Stevosevic Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 Pep confident their ban will be overturned. I think we'll need top 4.
st albans fox Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 1 minute ago, Stevosevic said: Pep confident their ban will be overturned. I think we'll need top 4. Well he’s hardly likely to say anything else is he ??
Lambert09 Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 Normally at this stage you start getting games against teams playing for nothing. Our fixtures could have no meaningless games :/ hopefully spurs are well out of the running by that game.
Aus Fox Posted 4 July 2020 Author Posted 4 July 2020 All the teams that can catch us and their Maximum points. Keeping in mind that many of these still have to play each other. Leicester 73 Chelsea 72 Man Utd 70 Wolves 67 Arsenal 64 Sheff Utd 65 Spurs 63 Burnley 63 Everton 62 Newcastle 60 With the fixtures coming up a win against Arsenal makes all but certain of a top 6 finish. 9 points and top 5 is mathematically certain, that’s without the chasing pack dropping any points. 3,4,5 will be who holds their nerve. 6 points in the next 4 ensures at very worst a CL will go to the final day.
urban.spaceman Posted 4 July 2020 Posted 4 July 2020 1 hour ago, Aus Fox said: All the teams that can catch us and their Maximum points. Keeping in mind that many of these still have to play each other. Leicester 73 Chelsea 72 Man Utd 70 Wolves 67 Arsenal 64 Sheff Utd 65 Spurs 63 Burnley 63 Everton 62 Newcastle 60 With the fixtures coming up a win against Arsenal makes all but certain of a top 6 finish. 9 points and top 5 is mathematically certain, that’s without the chasing pack dropping any points. 3,4,5 will be who holds their nerve. 6 points in the next 4 ensures at very worst a CL will go to the final day. ****s sake now I'm worried about Newcastle.
srex9 Posted 5 July 2020 Posted 5 July 2020 1 hour ago, Aus Fox said: All the teams that can catch us and their Maximum points. Keeping in mind that many of these still have to play each other. Leicester 73 Chelsea 72 Man Utd 70 Wolves 67 Arsenal 64 Sheff Utd 65 Spurs 63 Burnley 63 Everton 62 Newcastle 60 With the fixtures coming up a win against Arsenal makes all but certain of a top 6 finish. 9 points and top 5 is mathematically certain, that’s without the chasing pack dropping any points. 3,4,5 will be who holds their nerve. 6 points in the next 4 ensures at very worst a CL will go to the final day. I think the last bunch of results have shown that the top teams in form can easily slip up. Chelsea vs West Ham and Wolves vs Arsenal. Most of the scenarios I'm thinking of have Chelsea, Man U and Wolves all getting over 10 points for the last 5 games. That is unlikely. I think it'll be close but I do think we can get over the line.
Aus Fox Posted 5 July 2020 Author Posted 5 July 2020 8 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: ****s sake now I'm worried about Newcastle. Sorry mate, hopefully West Ham can do us another favour tonight and we can scratch them off the list once and for all.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 5 July 2020 Posted 5 July 2020 I can't see City getting a two year ban, best we can hope for is a 1 year ban IMO.
Stadt Posted 5 July 2020 Posted 5 July 2020 29 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: I can't see City getting a two year ban, best we can hope for is a 1 year ban IMO. We’re not getting a ban
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