King of Gipsy Lane Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 54 minutes ago, goose2010 said: What you trying to imply? That it's Rodgers forcing players back to earlier? Not implying anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ..much the same as I said in the U23s!!! There were times in the U23s where he tried to use his speed to close down or extricate from an unfavourable position but it seems no matter how much he tried he could not get the acceleration that he wanted. For him that is a basic part of his game that he uses to his advantage and if he cannot generate the pace he once had then it is going to be a mental block to everything that he does. Early days though, but you do notice his reluctance to commit to a tackle and not go to the floor. My worry is that the injury psychologically prevents him from being the same player he was. I hope it's just because it was his first game and eventually he gets back to committing to tackles more, and he doesn't lose a yard of pace as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 1 hour ago, King of Gipsy Lane said: Not implying anything OK.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 17 minutes ago, shailen said: My worry is that the injury psychologically prevents him from being the same player he was. I hope it's just because it was his first game and eventually he gets back to committing to tackles more, and he doesn't lose a yard of pace as a result. 25 years ago, when surgery was much more rudimentary, I recall amongst others Steve Walsh and Alan Shearer both returning to old powers post ACL reconstruction. He'll be fine long term, though this season maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 2 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: 25 years ago, when surgery was much more rudimentary, I recall amongst others Steve Walsh and Alan Shearer both returning to old powers post ACL reconstruction. He'll be fine long term, though this season maybe not. Michael Owens career was pretty much ruined by the ACL injury he sustained at the world Cup but fair point, some players recover and some don't. I think the impact if any will be in the margins but its the small margins that make the difference as well as mentally recovering from such a set back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blur Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 4 hours ago, brookfox said: Ironically I felt a twitch in my groin when he came on! I want to mark this post with a laughing emoji so bad but I just cannt bring myself to do so 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 3 hours ago, Bats8711 said: Quote from Brendan on club site article: "We’re awaiting on a scan for that, but it’s nothing too serious because he played on for the remainder of the half.” ya - if there’s one thing we all know it’s that Riccy P continuing to play on rules out serious injury ::biggest eye roll emoji ever:: ...all these long term lay offs all seemed so inocuos at the time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglodanglo Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 1 hour ago, shailen said: My worry is that the injury psychologically prevents him from being the same player he was. I hope it's just because it was his first game and eventually he gets back to committing to tackles more, and he doesn't lose a yard of pace as a result. Exactly this. A relatively risk free competitive game to bring him back into the fold without any serious pressure for a result. He'll be fine. We'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 There really wasn't much in it at the time. I remember once Vardy landing badly and his knee bended completely the wrong way really badly and was convinced it'd be a massive injury but he just ran it off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 4 December 2020 Share Posted 4 December 2020 3 hours ago, Paninistickers said: 25 years ago, when surgery was much more rudimentary, I recall amongst others Steve Walsh and Alan Shearer both returning to old powers post ACL reconstruction. He'll be fine long term, though this season maybe not. Shearer remodelled his game though, didn't he? His pace went and he became more of a target man who thrived on crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzFOX Posted 5 December 2020 Share Posted 5 December 2020 I blew out my acl & meniscus years ago. The post survey PT was absolute murder at times and yes once the knee is good there is the metal fear of re-injuring it which prevents you from committing to tackles or bursting at speed or even jumping up in the air for a header and landing. It sounds silly but trust me I kinda understand what's going on in Ricky's head. Good news is the psychological barrier can be overcome. Ricky will come good but its all down to him as to how much he wants to return to his best. I recall Van Persie came back from an acl reconstruction and was still a phenomenal player. Good luck Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StanSP Posted 6 December 2020 Share Posted 6 December 2020 Slight not serious is positive news in a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 6 December 2020 Share Posted 6 December 2020 8 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 On 06/12/2020 at 17:04, moore_94 said: He hasn't played since this has he? Do we deliberately lie to try and keep other teams guessing or something? All our predictions about injuries seem to be miles off, everyone seems to be out for an extra month than predicted Except Ndidi who comes back a month earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylesta Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 On 04/12/2020 at 20:36, shailen said: Michael Owens career was pretty much ruined by the ACL injury he sustained at the world Cup but fair point, some players recover and some don't. I think the impact if any will be in the margins but its the small margins that make the difference as well as mentally recovering from such a set back. Owen always had hamstring problems remember him saying he was petrified to run into space as he knew it would go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 On 04/12/2020 at 20:36, shailen said: Michael Owens career was pretty much ruined by the ACL injury he sustained at the world Cup but fair point, some players recover and some don't. I think the impact if any will be in the margins but its the small margins that make the difference as well as mentally recovering from such a set back. Comparing Own injury to Riccardo is like comparing chalk and cheese. Owen collapse in agony, roll of the pitch and had too be carry off. Riccardo got back up and played on 15-20 mins, only when it was scan did the player or club realise it was an ACL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 6 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Comparing Own injury to Riccardo is like comparing chalk and cheese. Owen collapse in agony, roll of the pitch and had too be carry off. Riccardo got back up and played on 15-20 mins, only when it was scan did the player or club realise it was an ACL ..how on earth an injury that would require an operation and more than 6 months rehab not be picked up on the pitch when initially assessed!!! Someone is not up to their job and is jeopardising our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 6 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Comparing Own injury to Riccardo is like comparing chalk and cheese. Owen collapse in agony, roll of the pitch and had too be carry off. Riccardo got back up and played on 15-20 mins, only when it was scan did the player or club realise it was an ACL ..how on earth an injury that would require an operation and more than 6 months rehab not be picked up on the pitch when initially assessed!!! Someone is not up to their job and is jeopardising our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 Just now, sacreblueits442 said: ..how on earth an injury that would require an operation and more than 6 months rehab not be picked up on the pitch when initially assessed!!! Someone is not up to their job and is jeopardising our season. No idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casablancas Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 4 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ..how on earth an injury that would require an operation and more than 6 months rehab not be picked up on the pitch when initially assessed!!! Someone is not up to their job and is jeopardising our season. Because it needs computerised imaging to confirm. I did mine after being assaulted on the ward and they missed it on the scans. Granted I’m no professional player but a physio would not pick it up without the aid of imaging. At least in my experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 10 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ..how on earth an injury that would require an operation and more than 6 months rehab not be picked up on the pitch when initially assessed!!! Someone is not up to their job and is jeopardising our season. In their defence the initial pain Ricardo felt didn’t indicate ACL damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 1 minute ago, casablancas said: Because it needs computerised imaging to confirm. I did mine after being assaulted on the ward and they missed it on the scans. Granted I’m no professional player but a physio would not pick it up without the aid of imaging. At least in my experience. ..the mere fact he is a professional football player and he is allowed to continue in a game where running around a pitch is a pre requisite seems a big injury to overlook!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 1 minute ago, casablancas said: Because it needs computerised imaging to confirm. I did mine after being assaulted on the ward and they missed it on the scans. Granted I’m no professional player but a physio would not pick it up without the aid of imaging. At least in my experience. ..the mere fact he is a professional football player and he is allowed to continue in a game where running around a pitch is a pre requisite seems a big injury to overlook!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnlaugson's Rizlas Posted 29 December 2020 Share Posted 29 December 2020 5 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: In their defence the initial pain Ricardo felt didn’t indicate ACL damage. Yeah as it’s a ligament that was damaged, it doesn’t have nerves so you can injure it without feeling any pain and it’s still possible to run on the leg. Obviously you can injury it in gruesome ways too, as we have seen many times... There is a basic test that is usually done on the pitch which involves trying to hyper extend the knee. If there’s no resistance it’s possibly torn and the player is sent for a scan to confirm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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