Popular Post StriderHiryu Posted 13 November 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 13 November 2020 11 minutes ago, Fox in the North said: Would love to know what’s set this all off. Wouldn't we all!? The man was the most detested person in the country, public enemy number 1 and was backed to the hilt and didn't even have to apologise for his actions. And yet months later he's shown the door. With the EU leaving transitional period ending and no trade deals with either Europe or the US in place, it just all feels like a dog who has done a giant sh*t on your doorstep and then waddled off down the road. He's done more than enough damage to last several lifetimes and it's us schmucks that pay the consequences. Him going is a good thing, though I have zero confidence in this government whatsoever. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 14 minutes ago, Fox in the North said: Would love to know what’s set this all off. Me too, got to be something we dont know about thats gone off. Hopefully it will come out over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stivo Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 11 minutes ago, Nalis said: Me too, got to be something we dont know about thats gone off. Hopefully it will come out over time. Ah the office fridge then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 I think the cyber Remainers peeing themselves now Biden's president-elect and Cummings has gone are being rather optimistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 On 11/11/2020 at 18:48, Buce said: 5. Sold off the Social Housing stock. 6. Waged an ideological crusade against the most vulnerable in society on the pretence of 'balancing the books'. 7. ****ed our mining industry and the miners resulting in, ultimately the UK having to buy increasingly expensive coal from ironically, some Socialist dictatorship countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 Wait so the guy everyone was saying was the real PM and pulling all the strings has been sent packing with nothing but a cya and a card board box? Good stuff. Curious as to why though, you'd think if you'd defend the bloke being a bell and driving around willy nilly that it would take something of nuclear proportions to send him on his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 1 hour ago, Tuna said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 8 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Wait so the guy everyone was saying was the real PM and pulling all the strings has been sent packing with nothing but a cya and a card board box? Good stuff. Curious as to why though, you'd think if you'd defend the bloke being a bell and driving around willy nilly that it would take something of nuclear proportions to send him on his way. Plot Twist Carrie is the real PM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 Kuenssburg getting plenty of sympathy on Twitter saying her source has gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 Johnson will follow in time for a no deal so he doesn't have to deal with the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 One interesting theory someone suggested to me earlier: Maybe he’s gone because the top echelons of the Tory party (ie Michael Gove) have decided that, internally at least, the possibility of No Deal is now off the table because of the pandemic. Therefore Cummings’ raison d'être is no longer relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ealingfox Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 (edited) It's just a bloody laugh to these utter *****. Desperately sad that they've managed to con enough of an entire country to go along with shit that they don't give a toss about. Damage is done and they'll all wander off laughing and never pay any price. Edited 13 November 2020 by ealingfox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 3 minutes ago, Tuna said: I'm confused. Johnson hires Cain as chief of staff. Symonds opposed to that. Cain/Cummings briefed against her. Johnson doesn't like that and fires them. How stupid am I being in missing something there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 He'll update his blog soon. If anyone is obsessed with "having the last word", it's Dom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoleftfeet Posted 13 November 2020 Share Posted 13 November 2020 What has labour done? That caused us to elect thatcher 3 times 1979 43 seat majority 1983 144 seat majority 1989 102 seat majority John Majors marority in 1992 was 21 Thatcher is seen by many as Britains most hated prime minister but the results dont echoe this. The fall of labour in 1979 lead to 18 years of conservatism the defeat of Brown in 2010 means we have potentially 15 years of conservatism this time and the are many labour luddites that dont think that new labour was labour at all even though it was their most successful spell at winning and holding on to power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_baskin Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 5 hours ago, bovril said: I think the cyber Remainers peeing themselves now Biden's president-elect and Cummings has gone are being rather optimistic. The Cummings leaving no10 through the front door has to be the most obviously staged pr stunt my eyes have beheld. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 2 hours ago, twoleftfeet said: What has labour done? That caused us to elect thatcher 3 times 1979 43 seat majority 1983 144 seat majority 1989 102 seat majority John Majors marority in 1992 was 21 Thatcher is seen by many as Britains most hated prime minister but the results dont echoe this. The fall of labour in 1979 lead to 18 years of conservatism the defeat of Brown in 2010 means we have potentially 15 years of conservatism this time and the are many labour luddites that dont think that new labour was labour at all even though it was their most successful spell at winning and holding on to power. Any idea when we had the last "socialist" Labour government? The 1970s? And some were surprised that Corbyn's hard left mob got blown away last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 15 hours ago, st albans fox said: intrigued as to what's actually precipitated all of this …... The demise of the orange one and the future that awaits Johnson without a shift in policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 10 hours ago, twoleftfeet said: What has labour done? That caused us to elect thatcher 3 times 1979 43 seat majority 1983 144 seat majority 1989 102 seat majority John Majors marority in 1992 was 21 Thatcher is seen by many as Britains most hated prime minister but the results dont echoe this. The fall of labour in 1979 lead to 18 years of conservatism the defeat of Brown in 2010 means we have potentially 15 years of conservatism this time and the are many labour luddites that dont think that new labour was labour at all even though it was their most successful spell at winning and holding on to power. Those on the right of the Tory party have always recognised that you need to be in govt to really change things. Those on the left of the Labour Party have never been able to get this basic fact. yes you can protest and occasionally that protest will grab the public mood and you get a ‘win’ but you have to govern to elicit real change. Blair and his cronies got it. Starmer gets it. that’s why starmer probably wins next time unless there is someone in the Tory party that I’m unaware of ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 4 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Those on the right of the Tory party have always recognised that you need to be in govt to really change things. Those on the left of the Labour Party have never been able to get this basic fact. yes you can protest and occasionally that protest will grab the public mood and you get a ‘win’ but you have to govern to elicit real change. Blair and his cronies got it. Starmer gets it. that’s why starmer probably wins next time unless there is someone in the Tory party that I’m unaware of ..... The biggest hope for a Labour govt is that the Tories' ace card - economic competence - has been exploded as a myth, with the Brexit shitshow still to impact on us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 22 hours ago, bovril said: What makes you so sure the Red Wall would be rebuilt out of interest? I don't live there or really follow polling that much, but I imagined those communities switched to Conservatives because they are more socially conservative and wanted Brexit delivered. I don't see how that's changed massively. The two big factors in the Red Wall turning blue, Corbyn and Brexit, are no longer relevant. I said on 13th December that this was an uneasy arrangement built on sand, and I've seen nothing to change my mind. Firstly, either Brexit was done on 31st January or is now set to become either an economy wrecking cluster**** or an enormous u-turn on electoral pledges as the possibility of a US trade deal can only come with a soft Brexit. None of these options appear to be the same rallying call the Tories used to such great effect in December. Secondly, the Red Wall hated Corbyn because his past represented the complete antithesis of their social conservatism. Where Corbyn was perceived to have stood with the IRA, Starmer spent much of his previous career putting them in prison. Where Corbyn was perceived as weak on antisemitism, Starmer has been decisive. He's even refusing to get involved in the culture wars that Johnson craves. In short, he's someone far more palatable to the Red Wall than his predecessor. Thirdly, the treatment of the North could be fairly described as a betrayal. The Burnham affair was deeply unedifying and resurrected old narratives of the Tories vs The North, and those notions aren't going away any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 15 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Mark Francois' hard drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 14 hours ago, Dunge said: One interesting theory someone suggested to me earlier: Maybe he’s gone because the top echelons of the Tory party (ie Michael Gove) have decided that, internally at least, the possibility of No Deal is now off the table because of the pandemic. Therefore Cummings’ raison d'être is no longer relevant. Can see Cummings coming back under any Gove leadership bid (although I think Gove for PM would be doomed). Either that or he’s positioned himself for a role at semi-governmental advisory consultancy. There’s a quite simple point that Tories have been in power for a considerable period and now they have ran out of competent persons who can take cabinet roles. Left with the dregs now. No adults left. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 14 November 2020 Share Posted 14 November 2020 By the way did anyone known that Rishi Sunak was best man at the wedding of Allegra Stretton? It’s like their own little club down at Downing Street at the moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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