Phube Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 9 minutes ago, trabuch said: You can't. You'd have to take frames per second and relative speed of movement between the defender and attacker into account - let alone when you determine the pass as being made. It's crazy - this wasn't how VAR was sold to us.. Today it has missed a clear and obvious red card and given 2 barely detectable offside decisions. They always use the first frame in which the ball has left the foot. In this case it is always consistent. The lines are drawn in 3D space using multiple camera angles, we only see from the one angle they choose to show us. Offside is offside. What pees me off more is the interpretation type VAR's i.e. dives, hand balls, red cards where it is still down to a bloke making crap (IMO) decisions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fox92 Posted 17 October 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 17 October 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, trabuch said: You can't. You'd have to take frames per second and relative speed of movement between the defender and attacker into account - let alone when you determine the pass as being made. It's crazy - this wasn't how VAR was sold to us.. Today it has missed a clear and obvious red card and given 2 barely detectable offside decisions. IT hasn't, HE has. Coote is a shit ref and he's controlling VAR. So he's still gonna make shit decisions. If referees can't make correct decisions on the pitch then they ain't gonna make them via a screen. Edited 17 October 2020 by Fox92 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_fox Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 I agree. I'd like to see each VAR decision time limited to 10 seconds. If 10 seconds of replays isn't enough to change a decision then it's not clear or obvious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TiffToff88 Posted 17 October 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 17 October 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Eskay said: I'm sorry ...how has chilwel learned to cross properly in 2 months?!! He's playing like TAA! It's amazing how much difference it can make to a players confidence to not have his own fans booing him and slating him on social media every week. He's always been a good player with fantastic potential but our fans are just toxic sometimes Edited 17 October 2020 by TiffToff88 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 Just now, TiffToff88 said: It's amazing how much difference it can make to a players confidence to not have his own fans booing him every week. He's always been a good player with fantastic potential but our fans are just toxic sometimes Yep. Sometimes fans don't exactly help. Listen to Lampard talk about his time at West Ham, it's mental to think their fans pushed him out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phube Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: Yep. Sometimes fans don't exactly help. Listen to Lampard talk about his time at West Ham, it's mental to think their fans pushed him out. As if grown men would boo and hound a talented you footballer who is still improving during their time at a less fancied club?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 Seeing pundits and ex pros slag it off is even more enraging, given that they’re the ****ing ones who wanted it to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 Have zero interest in what Chilwell does at Chelsea. He's moved on, he's just another opposition player now. But it is interesting to note that he was withdrawn from the England squad with "an injury" and yet less than 3 days later is starting for Chelsea and setting up a goal. We clearly need to start pulling the same kind of trick to protect our players. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 all that hype for southampton before the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 5 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: Seeing pundits and ex pros slag it off is even more enraging, given that they’re the ****ing ones who wanted it to begin with I think its causing a lot more controversy than when it wasn't around, without VAR you would maybe have 1 or 2 incidents in a game which anger the fans at most VAR is just creating more problem situations for no reason. BIN IT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4DD0gg Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 Seriously got to ask the question of considering how utterly abject we are at corners why didnt Braindead Rodgers have chilwell taking them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachhere Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 46 minutes ago, Corky said: In the days before VAR, there's no way that is even mentioned post-match. In the days before VAR they would be praising him for staying level with the last defender 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 Don Hutchison saying Chilwell has "gone up a notch" from the player he was at Leicester. He has played 120 mins in the PL for Chelsea. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmt Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 8 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said: Have zero interest in what Chilwell does at Chelsea. He's moved on, he's just another opposition player now. But it is interesting to note that he was withdrawn from the England squad with "an injury" and yet less than 3 days later is starting for Chelsea and setting up a goal. We clearly need to start pulling the same kind of trick to protect our players. Oh I do. Its great seeing that most of FT was wrong about something (and very vocally so) - although it is early days. Agree on the England point although players probably more bothered if they're not first choice in England team already. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 35 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said: It's amazing how much difference it can make to a players confidence to not have his own fans booing him every week. He's always been a good player with fantastic potential but our fans are just toxic sometimes Totally agree. Im still.amazed man city didn't make a.move for him to replace that absolute tool (in relative terms) Mendy and the sub sub par Zinchenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 2 hours ago, UniFox21 said: Leg bends back, similar to Zouma and Ibra? Seems we’ve lost any balance between protecting the keeper and protecting the attacker. Can you imagine when Ederson sees that Pickford got away with that? He’s going to be the most dangerous unarmed man in England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 30 minutes ago, martyn said: Don Hutchison saying Chilwell has "gone up a notch" from the player he was at Leicester. He has played 120 mins in the PL for Chelsea. I can't help feeling that Chilwell lost his mojo with us from November to a much larger extent than our other players, and I suspect some tapping up by Chelsea players during the England meet-ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest seanfox778 Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 (edited) Kepa again Zouma equally as terrible. Edited 17 October 2020 by seanfox778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Fox Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 I see Chelsea have sorted their defence out then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest seanfox778 Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 3-2 Chelsea now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adejo92 Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 1 hour ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Imagine paying £14.99 Sorted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 Did they check Werner offside for the 3rd goal? Looks very close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 Just now, Shane said: Did they check Werner offside for the 3rd goal? Looks very close He’s a mile on? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bats8711 Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, turtmcfly said: Don't see how razor thin stops the 'games gone' brigade. If anything it exacerbates the problem - the mirage of technical perfection which can't happen when the technology is controlled by humans. If the lines were a fair bit thicker (the equivalent a football's width seems too wide, but along those lines) the rule could change such that if the lines overlapped it wasn't offside See - I think what you suggest exacerbates the problem. How does giving a margin of error do anything to solve the current issue? You’d have close decisions where the width or allowance barely does or does not overlap and you still have the core issue which is how / where they draw the lines. Also - wow they really breezed through that last Chelsea goal. The one view I saw (not the one pictured above) looked very close. Certainly enough to see some lines drawn. Edited 17 October 2020 by Bats8711 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 17 October 2020 Share Posted 17 October 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: He’s a mile on? Look close in line with the CB , did var check it? Edited 17 October 2020 by Shane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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