Premier League 2020/21 Thread

[jammie82uk]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Not in that instance ....the ref has called the foul. The var has to decide if was inside the box ......  didn’t look like it to me though ....

Clear and obvious is to be used in every instance of VAR 

[StanSP]

Never a penalty. Took ages as well to get to the wrong decision too. Annoying,

[Vacamion]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Not in that instance ....the ref has called the foul. The var has to decide if was inside the box ......  didn’t look like it to me though ....

 

But they replayed it again and again and it wasn't clear that the ref's initial assessment of it being outside the box was incorrect.

 

I would be furious if that was given against us.

 

The foul looked outside the box.  The REACTION carried on into the box

 

Scandalous.

 

 

[Guest Kopfkino]

Couldn’t they have used the offside lines to work it out instead of the replays or would it not work because it was the vertical line of the box rather than horizontal line?

Edited 7 December 2020 by Kopfkino

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, jammie82uk said:

Clear and obvious is to be used in every instance of VAR 

You mean like 1mm offsides ..some uses of var are are expected to be factual - being in/out of the box is one of those ....

[casablancas]

That wasn’t clear or obvious or whatever. Contact was outside the box anyway. 

[goody2028]

Just now, Kopfkino said:

Couldn’t they have used the offside lines to work it out instead of the replays

That’d be too clever for them lot

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, Kopfkino said:

Couldn’t they have used the offside lines to work it out instead of the replays

Apparently the lines only go across the pitch ......hence they couldn’t use them for saturdays West Ham incident 

[Ric Flair]

Brighton get way too much praise, their ability to get results is hideous. 

[jammie82uk]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

You mean like 1mm offsides ..some uses of var are are expected to be factual - being in/out of the box is one of those ....

Lukas Brud, general secretary of the International Football Association Board, Is quoted as saying “What we really need to stress is that 'clear and obvious' applies to every single situation that is being reviewed by the VAR or the referee.” 
 

was it really clear and obvious that the player was fouled in the box? If so why did we have so many replays? 

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

With Brighton's home form and our away form, can we swap fixtures on the weekend? 

[Corky]

9 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

But they replayed it again and again and it wasn't clear that the ref's initial assessment of it being outside the box was incorrect.

 

I would be furious if that was given against us.

 

The foul looked outside the box.  The REACTION carried on into the box

 

Scandalous.

 

 

Forget all that shit, Alan Smith again used Man Yoovers in commentary.

 

 

[Vacamion]

Just now, Corky said:

Forget all that shit, Alan Smith again used Man Yoovers in commentary.

 

 

 

I heard it. 

 

If there is ever another war, he may end up being shot as a foreign spy.

 

 

[ealingfox]

Never ever a penalty. Var is bloody useless.

[Guest Kopfkino]

11 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Apparently the lines only go across the pitch ......hence they couldn’t use them for saturdays West Ham incident 

But even if they drew a horizontal you’d still get the line that goes down from the player’s body part to make a judgement on

[st albans fox]

7 minutes ago, jammie82uk said:

Lukas Brud, general secretary of the International Football Association Board, Is quoted as saying “What we really need to stress is that 'clear and obvious' applies to every single situation that is being reviewed by the VAR or the referee.” 
 

was it really clear and obvious that the player was fouled in the box? If so why did we have so many replays? 

Lukas brud may know what var should be doing but that’s not how it’s being used here ....

[weller54]

A nice blow to Brighton's confidence before Sundays game!

.. luvvilly jubbilly.

[Koke]

Brighton have changed style but have they actually improved? This is a genuine question.

[Corky]

Just give everyone a couple of free crap decisions for and against on VAR then we can save this endless debate on TV.

 

It's all shit, we know it.

[fuchsntf]

VAR officials have no Business to decide on whether that was a penalty...The Ref ,should of been asked to "make"  the last & only Final descision.

And that is the Problem with VAR...it should be helping the Ref, Not Repeat Not Making Final descisions..The Flüchtlinge Monitor for the ref,should always be

Used...We have impartia refs, how Impartial are the workers and officials at Stockley-park...!

 

VAR could be brilliant, but Political Brain Dead idiots are in charge....Lets Now go to Robot-refs, with only VAR Making descisions from Miles away.

When such descisions outside the actual game, we have lost the "game."

 How disconnected are These people...Not forgetting other countries, wie ( even with mistakes) far better at it..

Brexit,VAR,Covid, lockdowns,Vaccines, can we ( you)  get anything right...!!  

 

[zorro en españa]

I was unaware they showed the VAR incident on the screen at the ground.  That must have put Coote (the ref) under some pressure - he’d given a foul outside the box - and I imagine he was quite relieved to see his decision vindicated.  Then he hears Banks (the VAR official) call it a penalty.  What is his moral compass now?
 

Imagine what is going through the ref’s head.  I have called a foul outside the box.  I looked at those replays and I am happy with my decision.  Then I am advised I am wrong.  I remember the last time I got involved in controversy.  I remember being removed by a team, or a man who feels he can dictate whatever he wants, who the PL seems petrified of.  OK .... this will fall on Banks.  
 

Sorry Mr Coote - much as I recognise the difficulty of your situation you needed to grow some balls tonight, tell Banks to FO and hold your head up high.

 

I would have no hesitation of removing you from the limelight for a number of months - it is best for you.

 

I am sick of VAR - it is f***ing this game up big time. Get rid.

[Tuna]

Why were there only 4 minutes at the end added on? The VAR decision making was at least 3 minutes.

[peach0000]

Definitely was a penalty. If a foul is committed outside the box but contact continues into the box that is a penalty and has been for as long as I can remember. That's exactly what happened here. The contact started outside but continued into the box. Simple.

Edited 8 December 2020 by peach0000

[Pliskin]

5 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

Definitely was a penalty. If a mould is committed outside the box but contact continues into the box that is a penalty and has been for as long as I can remember. That's exactly what happened here. The contact started outside but continued into the box. Simple.

So, if this is committed at Madame Tussauds it is still a penalty? 

[Wymsey]

1 hour ago, jammie82uk said:

So from them tv angles they can work out the foul was definitely inside the box but they couldn’t work out if the ball had gone out of play in the Man United West Ham game 

Not surprised that Man Utd got lucky again..