US Presidential Election 2020

[Fightforever]

1 minute ago, nnickn said:

why do you think Trump=Bad and AnyoneElse=Better,, but Trump is winning?

Qanon did this IMO. As in more people believe that shit then expected as a result trump is doing better.

Edited 4 November 2020 by Fightforever

[Stadt]

The Dems are one of the most shambolic political parties in history

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

This is going to be very, very close.

Additionally, given how close it's likely going to be we're not going to get a result today and there's probably going to end up being some court challenges over postal votes.

 

Not good.

[nnickn]

9 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

This is going to be very, very close.

eh?, he looks like winning further than Shergar

[knitro]

It's simple as this:

Trump - let's learn to live with Covid and open up. People's lives depend on normalcy returning.

 

Biden - Winter of Darkness, mandatory masks and more lockdowns - SAFETY UBER ALLES

 

Trump - Law and order, defend the police, stop the looting.

 

Biden - Defund the police, it's peaceful protesting not looting.

 

This is heavily oversimplified, and I'm assigning surrogate positions to the main candidates, but I really think these are the two critical things that the pollsters missed and the media missed. Both are areas that the 'shy Trump/tory' effect were most evident.

 

People can look at graphs that say that COVID is 99.9% nonlethal for those under 75 and recognize extended shut downs are a gross overreaction. They can also see storefronts and police stations torched and not call it protesting. 

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, nnickn said:

eh?, he looks like winning further than Shergar

All of the critical swing states bar Florida - North Carolina, Penn, Arizona, Georgia, Ohio are still in play. Provided Michigan and Wisconsin go Dem Biden only needs one of those. To say nothing of the postal ballots yet to be counted.

 

This is still very much early doors.

[dsr-burnley]

2 minutes ago, nnickn said:

eh?, he looks like winning further than Shergar

Arizona. Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin were all Trump states last time and are too early to call this time.  If he loses three of those, he'll probably lose.  I don't think there are really any more vulnerable ones unless Georgia goes.  

[Nalis]

Well this is shite, again....

 

Bookies now have Trump at 4/9, he was 6/4 earlier. This doesnt look good either: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/us2020/results

[bovril]

Biden wins Arizona, according to Fox. 

Edited 4 November 2020 by bovril

[Lionator]

13 minutes ago, bovril said:

Biden wins Arizona, according to Fox. 

May hopefully be the turning point. Win Pennsylvania and it’s biden’s? 

[UPinCarolina]

Trump has likely won.

[Lionator]

11 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said:

Trump has likely won.

Doesn’t appear that way.

 

It appears very very close. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

I need to go to bed, I don't think we'll know for another few hours who has been elected, it seems very close!

[UPinCarolina]

2 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Doesn’t appear that way.

 

It appears very very close. 

When these things happen, favor the incumbent.

[Jattdogg]

9 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said:

Trump has likely won.

Im going to bed now.  This is exactly how i saw it unfolding in another Trump win. Only a miracle will save Biden if you ask me.

 

Goodnight folks enjoy the results.

 

 

[st albans fox]

Surely the fact that this is on a knife edge after the year we’re having shows that whatever happens, Biden doesn’t have the support he needs to govern ???

 

Days of messy legal arguments will simply exacerbate the fact that trump supporters will not accept a narrow loss ......

[That_Dude]

Woke up, saw the map and couldn't believe my eyes. That's stuff of nightmares.

 

I hope that the mali-in ballots are going to save the day.

Edited 4 November 2020 by That_Dude

[Innovindil]

Me waking up to them trumpet odds. 

 

[Ian Nacho]

I reckon at this we should just have a penalty shootout to decide, with Tim Howard in goal. Trump to take first in front of the Biden fans. 

Edited 4 November 2020 by Ian Nacho

[st albans fox]

21 minutes ago, That_Dude said:

Woke up, saw the map and couldn't believe my eyes. That's stuff from nightmares.

 

I hope that the mali-in ballots are going to save the day.

And that’s where the problems start as trump has set the narrative on them and the democrats haven’t corrected that ......

[SemperEadem]

The planet is even more screwed.

[Buce]

 

So, Trump wants all the ballots to be tallied in Arizona (where he's trailing) but not in Pennsylvania (where he's leading).

 

He has no shame.

 

 

[That_Dude]

8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

And that’s where the problems start as trump has set the narrative on them and the democrats haven’t corrected that 

There were always going to be problems if Biden didn't win by a landslide. The hopes for a blue Senate are also probably gone.

 

That with Trump's massive Covid feck-up and a tanking economy. Biden would've been utterly destroyed if it weren't for Rona. Was he really the best candidate the Dems could come up with?

 

[CosbehFox]

How many deaths we going for by the end of the week with this outcome? 

[Lionator]

Not sure why Trump is odds on with the bookies based on what we know.