Nigel Pearson appointed Bristol City manager

[Finnaldo]

A good portion of our support (and I suppose, football supporters as a whole) are genuinely fickle aren’t they? 
 

Imagine if Pearson had been sacked in 2012/13 for failing to get us up? We’d probably still be down there getting royally fooked by FFP like Derby or Wednesday  

 

Also on his record since he left us he’s been at:

 

Derby, under the most toxic ownership that has completely sabotaged them from before he was there, whilst he was there and after. They can’t even sign on senior players as it stands ffs, what chance does a manager like Pearson have with that level of helicopter ownership? 
 

Leuven, which was neither here nor there. A favour from the owners to get him back in work which worked out as he soon went to 

 

Watford, where he was actively turning them around and actually gave them a chance to salvage their season (the SECOND time he’s done this in the PL, this time with a squad he was stuck with and got the very best out of, he was only a victim of Watford’s bizarre managerial roundabout. I’d say they probably would have stayed up with Pearson seeing out the season. 
 

In terms of consequential English appointments since leaving us, he's failed to turn around a club that turns out, were in an inevitable death spiral anyway, and he was succeeding at a club where the average manager lasts about three games. I don’t think he’s been ‘exposed’ as anything. Whether through choice or not Pearson tends up end up at the helm on the precipice of disaster and so far he has a 5 to 1 record (Carlisle, Southampton, Leicester on two separate occasions, Watford) at guiding clubs to success. Even at Hull, they came down with all kind of financial issues and he made sensible signings and built a strong squad that was just outside the play offs when he came back to us. They’d then go up automatically the following season. 
 

Bristol had a squad with an awful attitude and Covid has created massive transfer fund issues for many clubs below the PL. Their trajectory second half of last season pre-Pearson was decisively down. This season should be about getting a solid midtable finish and identifying the core of their squad going forwards. Pearson realistically will need two seasons to prove if he still has what it takes.

[Unabomber]

Happy Birthday Nige 

[King of Gipsy Lane]

Love Nigel but many of these psychological managers … man managers …. Are defunct in the modern game, they are tactically ridged and easily pulled apart, so many of them are now ineffective managers and the same is to be said for Nigel, what they are good at is organising a response to a crisis, galvanising failing men to believe they are successful men, this only generally happens in relegation battles, and that’s Nigel’s mistake taking this job he thought he can be a club man again, he is a firefighter and should have hung around waiting for the next fire, get paid well for it and then get paid well to be sacked or moved on from it ! 
 

 

[filbertway]

christ almighty. Mid table team loses at home due to inability to finish against team that is expected to be in the play offs.

[AjcW]

I’ve got an idea. We adopt Bristol City as our second team for the season (they’re inoffensive) and rename the thread so that we can get rid of some of the whoppers?  

[Corky]

1 hour ago, King of Gipsy Lane said:

Love Nigel but many of these psychological managers … man managers …. Are defunct in the modern game, they are tactically ridged and easily pulled apart, so many of them are now ineffective managers and the same is to be said for Nigel, what they are good at is organising a response to a crisis, galvanising failing men to believe they are successful men, this only generally happens in relegation battles, and that’s Nigel’s mistake taking this job he thought he can be a club man again, he is a firefighter and should have hung around waiting for the next fire, get paid well for it and then get paid well to be sacked or moved on from it ! 
 

 

He should basically admit he's not good enough to do anything other than fight relegation battles?

 

I certainly wouldn't want a manager with that mentality at my club.

 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Pearson is the GOAT. as it's been said before in this thread if you don't like him you're no fan of Leicester City. Ta-ra.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

The 'but it wasn't all pearsons doing' argument is just so hard to fathom I don't know where to begin.

[Fox92]

2 hours ago, Unabomber said:

Happy Birthday Nige 

Absolutely. The man.

[Fox92]

 

[Carl the Llama]

The best egg

[OntarioFox]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NFP
 

8 hours ago, Unabomber said:

It’s a shame we haven’t got any decent fringe strikers or centre backs to loan him. 

Benkovic 2: Might Actually Play This Time Boogaloo 

Edited 21 August 2021 by OntarioFox

[Spudulike]

7 hours ago, AjcW said:

I’ve got an idea. We adopt Bristol City as our second team for the season (they’re inoffensive) and rename the thread so that we can get rid of some of the whoppers?  

I intended to tune in for this but then remembered they have rugby lines all over the pitch making it unwatchable. 

 

... and I haven't got Sky. 

[Guest Col city fan]

8 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

The 'but it wasn't all pearsons doing' argument is just so hard to fathom I don't know where to begin.

It’s a very simple argument. From what I’ve heard, The players didn’t often see Pearson during the week. And he rarely took training. Shakespeare was the man the players went to for most things. He was the buffer between Nigel and the squad. Walsh, (as is surely known!) was the ace recruiter. 
And none of them have done anywhere near as well when they weren’t the tri-partite

’Team Pearson’ did wonders for the club. They got us promoted at a canter and miraculously managed the great escape

But to say this was ‘all Pearson’s’ doing is just bollox. 
As I said before, there are certain similarities to Clough and Taylor. They ‘worked’ together. In isolation, they were next to useless.

Our success was due to ‘Team Pearson’ and it worked extremely well.

[Sharpe's Fox]

7 hours ago, Fox92 said:

 

"There we are." I actively seek to replicate this man's energy. This is what peak performance looks like.

[Spudulike]

54 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

It’s a very simple argument. From what I’ve heard, The players didn’t often see Pearson during the week. And he rarely took training. Shakespeare was the man the players went to for most things. He was the buffer between Nigel and the squad. Walsh, (as is surely known!) was the ace recruiter. 
And none of them have done anywhere near as well when they weren’t the tri-partite

’Team Pearson’ did wonders for the club. They got us promoted at a canter and miraculously managed the great escape

But to say this was ‘all Pearson’s’ doing is just bollox. 
As I said before, there are certain similarities to Clough and Taylor. They ‘worked’ together. In isolation, they were next to useless.

Our success was due to ‘Team Pearson’ and it worked extremely well.

"... miraculously managed the great escape" but don't forget that Team Pearson were in charge when we spent 5 months at the bottom of the league. 

[CosbehFox]

2 hours ago, Col city fan said:

It’s a very simple argument. From what I’ve heard, The players didn’t often see Pearson during the week. And he rarely took training. Shakespeare was the man the players went to for most things. He was the buffer between Nigel and the squad. Walsh, (as is surely known!) was the ace recruiter. 
And none of them have done anywhere near as well when they weren’t the tri-partite

’Team Pearson’ did wonders for the club. They got us promoted at a canter and miraculously managed the great escape

But to say this was ‘all Pearson’s’ doing is just bollox. 
As I said before, there are certain similarities to Clough and Taylor. They ‘worked’ together. In isolation, they were next to useless.

Our success was due to ‘Team Pearson’ and it worked extremely well.

Shakespeare has done very well for himself 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

3 hours ago, Col city fan said:

It’s a very simple argument. From what I’ve heard, The players didn’t often see Pearson during the week. And he rarely took training. Shakespeare was the man the players went to for most things. He was the buffer between Nigel and the squad. Walsh, (as is surely known!) was the ace recruiter. 
And none of them have done anywhere near as well when they weren’t the tri-partite

’Team Pearson’ did wonders for the club. They got us promoted at a canter and miraculously managed the great escape

But to say this was ‘all Pearson’s’ doing is just bollox. 
As I said before, there are certain similarities to Clough and Taylor. They ‘worked’ together. In isolation, they were next to useless.

Our success was due to ‘Team Pearson’ and it worked extremely well.

But why do you confuse people having admiration for Nigel and holding him in high regard with thinking he was the only person who should take any credit for what was achieved when he was here. If you can find someone who has anything negative to say about any of the management team from that time I'd love to see that. My admiration for Nigel isn't a dismissal of the team around him at the time (which he put together, so to claim he wasn't involved in this or that, but put in place the people who were as a stick to beat him with, I just don't get it.). Anything he has achieved or failed at since, I'm afraid again, I don't see the relevance as to why that should change any Leicester fans view on him. Its clear from the way you phrase what you say you don't like him and that's fine but nothing you can say will diminish my respect or admiration for him. I could go on but it's as simple as I like Nige and you don't, not a lot more really needs to be said. 

[Guest Col city fan]

12 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

But why do you confuse people having admiration for Nigel and holding him in high regard with thinking he was the only person who should take any credit for what was achieved when he was here. If you can find someone who has anything negative to say about any of the management team from that time I'd love to see that. My admiration for Nigel isn't a dismissal of the team around him at the time (which he put together, so to claim he wasn't involved in this or that, but put in place the people who were as a stick to beat him with, I just don't get it.). Anything he has achieved or failed at since, I'm afraid again, I don't see the relevance as to why that should change any Leicester fans view on him. Its clear from the way you phrase what you say you don't like him and that's fine but nothing you can say will diminish my respect or admiration for him. I could go on but it's as simple as I like Nige and you don't, not a lot more really needs to be said. 

Which part of ‘Team Pearson did wonders for the club’ equates to me beating Pearson with a stick?

I think you’re avoiding the point I’m making in favour of some other argument, for some strange reason 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

I don't get what is being spoken about now, we seem to of crossed wires somewhere. I totally agree nigels team were instrumental in the success the club achieved at the time. 

[Carl the Llama]

2 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

I don't get what is being spoken about now, we seem to of crossed wires somewhere. I totally agree nigels team were instrumental in the success the club achieved at the time. 

Well it all started with Col making a dig about "Pearson lovers" as though it's unusual to admire the guy for what he's done, followed by an eagerness to judge his tenures elsewhere as failures which has been quite fairly rebutted by other posters (ie Finnaldo's comment at the very top of this page).  There are no crossed wires, Col just has ulterior motives and has a long history of struggling to argue in good faith.

[Fox92]

18 hours ago, Col city fan said:

It’s a very simple argument. From what I’ve heard, The players didn’t often see Pearson during the week. And he rarely took training. Shakespeare was the man the players went to for most things. He was the buffer between Nigel and the squad. Walsh, (as is surely known!) was the ace recruiter. 
And none of them have done anywhere near as well when they weren’t the tri-partite

’Team Pearson’ did wonders for the club. They got us promoted at a canter and miraculously managed the great escape

But to say this was ‘all Pearson’s’ doing is just bollox. 
As I said before, there are certain similarities to Clough and Taylor. They ‘worked’ together. In isolation, they were next to useless.

Our success was due to ‘Team Pearson’ and it worked extremely well.

O'Neill rarely took training I believe? Plus there should be a buffer between players and manager. Trouble is with Shakespeare he couldn't step away from that when he became manager (ie still insisted he was called "Shakey"). Nige was probably one of those where he hates you one week then loves you the next. Like O'Neill and like Clough (well, O'Neill thought he was Clough I think). Nothing wrong with any of that. You don't want the manager to be to close with the players.

 

Pearson takes credit because he's the manager. Similar to Rodgers now. We don't go out our way to thank his backroom staff, it's the manager that gets the love and the songs sung about him. Similar to when we've lost, you didn't want Shakespeare and Walsh sacked did you, you just wanted Pearson gone as he's the manager (edit - I don't mean "you" as in you directly Col).

 

As for recruiting, as I said before, I read an interview with Pearson in 442 and he described what it was like. He watched players and mentioned the only player he didn't watch live before signing him was Mahrez.

Edited 22 August 2021 by Fox92

[Steven]

On 21/08/2021 at 08:46, Finnaldo said:

Imagine if Pearson had been sacked in 2012/13 for failing to get us up? We’d probably still be down there getting royally fooked by FFP like Derby or Wednesday

The record at the Club since Pearson left would suggest otherwise. Even Micky Adams manged to get us promoted to the PL and that achievement was a greater one than Pearson's. I do not understand the messianic following some have for Pearson as he played his part in Leicester City's history better than some and not as good as others. 

 

That said, Happy Birthday Nigel. 

[bovril]

34 minutes ago, Steven said:

The record at the Club since Pearson left would suggest otherwise. Even Micky Adams manged to get us promoted to the PL and that achievement was a greater one than Pearson's. I do not understand the messianic following some have for Pearson as he played his part in Leicester City's history better than some and not as good as others. 

 

That said, Happy Birthday Nigel. 

 

 

[CosbehFox]

18 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Shakespeare has done very well for himself 

@Fox92 He’s twice been assistant manager at PL clubs. Hardly some huge fall