SouthStandUpperTier Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 9 hours ago, Deeg67 said: Very interesting piece from 538 on what Tuchel did this season and why, and how Chelsea could be really scary next season. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/was-chelseas-champions-league-win-a-fluke/ The only thing scary about Chelsea is Tuchel's serial killer vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: 10th place next season it is then. Would be no worse than Ancellotti has done while spending less money on wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 24 minutes ago, The_77 said: Bro. Brexit means brexit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 Zidane's going to Goodison, pretty friggin obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 2 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Yeah and he's not going to be fit all season. For all the talk of how strong they are, they finished with 1 more point than the previous season despite spending 250m. They know how to frustrate city and they beat us marginally when we're nursing injuries and had been out partying. Don't buy the tuchel love in. Chelsea don't stick with managers for long and he doesn't stick around at clubs for long. Agree with this. I think Chelsea will be top 4 next season but thats all in terms of the league. 2 hours ago, Deeg67 said: They won the two most important ones games they played in the last month. Did you actually read the 538 piece? The numbers they put up under Tuchel were pretty impressive. And guaranteed he's going to be more attacking next season. 2 games in a month is different to 38 games in a season. The issue for them at the minute is scoring. In the CL final they should have been 2 up before they scored. I always feel, watching them, I don't wanna go 1 down as it's hard to come back yet going 1 up against them is more comfortable than against other sides (and I include Man Utd in that). They had a lot of possession against us in the FA Cup final but didn't do that much with it. They only had three shots on target all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 I commented towards the end of the season how un-bothered Ancellotti looked when they were shitting away home points. A more adventurous and/or interested manager could've had them challenging with us. They do have a decent squad with a few obvious shortfalls, but then so do we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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enmac Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 3 hours ago, NasPb said: We all know how good Kante is but tuchel doesn't convince me. He struggles against smaller teams. Great in a knock out tournament though against the big sides. They have problems with teams that sit deep and counter. Just like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, enmac said: They have problems with teams that sit deep and counter. Just like us. Almost every manager of a gegenpress side has this problem once their team becomes marked. Ranieri in 16/17, Klopp this year, Germany in the last world cup, Atleti almost every year unless the big two are beyond garbage. It's why Pep’s approach will be better over 9/10 league seasons. His sides are well equipped for the imbalance of modern football which usually boils down to the big teams playing attack vs defence drills vs the little teams. Ironically, its also why he's struggling to win the CL with Man City because now so much of those other sides know how to press and counter and keep picking him off and he's vulnerable in a one off knock out game. Edited 2 June 2021 by Finnegan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 How is Fofana or JJ not nominated? Think Youri could've squeezed in given he was only 24 in May. But as per, only 1 non big six player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 (edited) Madness how our players have been ignored. Greenwood had 1 goal up until March or something, Alexander-Arnold was shit for most of the season, Saka had a decent season but not sure its enough to nominated for player of the year, Rice was good but again no better than any of ours. Fofana, Justin and Barnes punished for not being around towards the end of the season. Are these nominated by the players, if so its hard to argue but its ridiculous to not have at least Fofana nominated. Just realised age may have stopped Justin and Barnes but still ... Edited 2 June 2021 by RowlattsFox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 6 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: How is Fofana or JJ not nominated? Think Youri could've squeezed in given he was only 24 in May. But as per, only 1 non big six player. I think the PFA changed their rule so the player had to be 21 or under at the start of the season - rather than 23 like it used to be. Doesn't explain Fofana's omission, but understandable that JJ isn't there. Likewise with Dias not being in the YPOTY nominees even though he also only turned 24 in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 6 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: Madness how our players have been ignored. Greenwood had 1 goal up until March or something, Alexander-Arnold was shit for most of the season, Saka had a decent season but not sure its enough to nominated for player of the year, Rice was good but again no better than any of ours. Fofana, Justin and Barnes punished for not being around towards the end of the season. Are these nominated by the players, if so its hard to argue but its ridiculous to not have at least Fofana nominated. Just realised age may have stopped Justin and Barnes but still ... Aged 23 or under at start of the year makes you eligible for it. Agree with everything you've said otherwise. Baffles me how Saka, Greenwood or Rice were nominated ahead of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 Just now, Xen said: I think the PFA changed their rule so the player had to be 21 or under at the start of the season - rather than 23 like it used to be. Doesn't explain Fofana's omission, but understandable that JJ isn't there. Likewise with Dias not being in the YPOTY nominees even though he also only turned 24 in May. In which case you may be right. The mirror here suggests it was 23 still, but its the mirror so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 5 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: In which case you may be right. The mirror here suggests it was 23 still, but its the mirror so. Wiki seems to suggest its 23 also. I'd seen it mentioned on twitter that it had been reduced, but maybe that was just circumstantial because all the shortlisted players would qualify as u21 anyway. It'll be going to Foden or Mount anyway, though, even if some of ours were included. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD_LCFC Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 56 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: How is Fofana or JJ not nominated? Think Youri could've squeezed in given he was only 24 in May. But as per, only 1 non big six player. Thanks for sharing.. For me Youri should be involved in the player of the season. Gundagon had a spell of 2 months where he was brilliant. Not really for the whole season. KDB by his own standards I don't think matched his previous seasons. Youri has had a brilliant season for a team who finished 5th and won the FA Cup. I think he definitely deserved to be in this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 41 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Aged 23 or under at start of the year makes you eligible for it. Agree with everything you've said otherwise. Baffles me how Saka, Greenwood or Rice were nominated ahead of ours. In the tweet you shared it says they had to be 21 or under on 1st July 2020. So JJ and Tielemans aren't allowed. Saka bailed Arsenal out this season with some massive performances. Rice was instrumental for West Ham for a large part of the season. Greenwood has been pretty sensational for United and looks a ridiculous prospect. Mount and Foden nobody can argue with. I'm surprised TAA is in ahead of Fofana though, obviously assists and goals are more flashy than absolutely dominant defensive performances from a teenager in his first season in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 7 minutes ago, filbertway said: In the tweet you shared it says they had to be 21 or under on 1st July 2020. So JJ and Tielemans aren't allowed. Saka bailed Arsenal out this season with some massive performances. Rice was instrumental for West Ham for a large part of the season. Greenwood has been pretty sensational for United and looks a ridiculous prospect. Mount and Foden nobody can argue with. I'm surprised TAA is in ahead of Fofana though, obviously assists and goals are more flashy than absolutely dominant defensive performances from a teenager in his first season in the country. Damn I am bloody oblivious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 4 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: The only thing scary about Chelsea is Tuchel's serial killer vibe. Much more a camp guard sporting some Hugo Boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 Conte on the verge of going to Spurs then, it would defy science if they manage to ruin Conte's record of winning a trophy pretty much everywhere he's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 It really is impressive what we do, how we do it and the rewards we get for what we spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 Someone please convince me Conte going to Spurs is good for us? Genuinely think he could sort them out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 2 minutes ago, KFS said: Someone please convince me Conte going to Spurs is good for us? Genuinely think he could sort them out. It's not. He's a very good manager. They'll definitely improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Conte on the verge of going to Spurs then, it would defy science if they manage to ruin Conte's record of winning a trophy pretty much everywhere he's been. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 2 June 2021 Share Posted 2 June 2021 Surprised Conte would even consider Spurs, they definitely become more dangerous but the man is a head case who will walk out if he doesn't get his own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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