sacreblueits442 Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 9 minutes ago, Solihullfox said: What if we are only going for a 1 year loan to tide us over until we can buy the target we want, that target not being available until next summer 🤔😉 ....that is a possibility, a bit of a reach, but a possibility!!! The amount of money required in order to help Barcelona out, make no mistake, the only guarantee in this situation is Barcelona get to lower their wage bill and it will not matter how their asset performs, they still come out on top. The sooner we get away from this the better!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 15 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Pricey then, because whereas Tielemans was always an option to buy and less wages, Coutinho is not going to sign for a club that have our wage structure, so it really would be a 1 year loan and done. It's not that pricey as we aren't buying. Tielemans could leave on a Bosman in two years and if he cost £32m and £80k a week that's £13m a season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 2 minutes ago, Gerard said: It's not that pricey as we aren't buying. Tielemans could leave on a Bosman in two years and if he cost £32m and £80k a week that's £13m a season. Well it is, if he can't get/stay fit which is the big unknown with this one and why I suspect a host of other big european clubs haven't yet made the plunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 1 hour ago, Gerard said: £7.5m for the season. That's for a year a seasons 9 months approx. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 6 hours ago, sylofox said: That's for a year a seasons 9 months approx. Good point. I'm not sure how one year loans work. Whether you just pay for the period a player is at your club or you pick up their annual salary and divide that by the time period they are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 9 hours ago, vanity said: Precisely. The problem I saw when Evans went out was there was confusion between Soyuncu and Fofana. Evans commanded respect, but neither Soyuncu or Fofana can command such respect, either from teammates or, more importantly I think, between one another. Consequently, we have nobody in the middle directing traffic. Soyuncu is 25, Fofana 20. There is no way Soy is taking direction from Fofana. Soyuncu was on the PFL Team of the Season or whatever it was called. He was rumored to be of interest to some elite sides. Then he got hurt, came back, and Fofana was the hot thing, with Soyuncu a bit on the outside looking in. I cannot speak to Sotuncu's personality, but he doesn't seem the sort to take kindly to some kid ordering him around out there. It did seem to be getting a bit sorted before Fofana got hurt against Spurs, they seemed to be figuring things out a bit, but right now, the clutch move would be to get a vocal, veteran CB to rotate with Evans, someone who could command a bit of respect from both of them. Maybe their partnership just needs more time, if we do the back 4 again, they will have an opportunity to develop that. Wouldn't mind seeing Evans backing up/rotating in that situation. The more Soyuncu and Fofana play with each other, the more compatible they should get. We shouldn’t necessarily be looking for another “Evans” but for the best available (backup) CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 1 hour ago, MGLCFC said: Good point. I'm not sure how one year loans work. Whether you just pay for the period a player is at your club or you pick up their annual salary and divide that by the time period they are here. No body ever loans for a year though. Why would you loan a player for 3 months doing nothing. Most loans only start a couple of weeks before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopy87 Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 10 hours ago, STUHILL said: Pricey then, because whereas Tielemans was always an option to buy and less wages, Coutinho is not going to sign for a club that have our wage structure, so it really would be a 1 year loan and done. That year may be all we need from him. Phillip Coutinho to Leicester will be the headline, everybody else takes note, he hopefully performs and we finally nail that top 4 spot with hopefully another trophy in the bag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 39 minutes ago, sylofox said: No body ever loans for a year though. Why would you loan a player for 3 months doing nothing. Most loans only start a couple of weeks before the season starts. Yes, I am aware that loans don't run for a whole calendar year, but you may still have to pay a whole year. As I say I am no expert, but the player will still receive his full annual salary somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 15 hours ago, splinterdream said: Why would it upset the harmony of the club? I believe it been said that Coutinhio only comes in if a deal cam be struck that doesn't break the wage structure, and other players on less are going to know it's coutinhio, ayoze perez isn't going to demand a new contract, and it's signings like that that boost the rep of the club, and keeps players like youri signing extensions I would imagine. He's reportedly on somewhere between £350-£400k a week. Even with a paycut, he will likely instantly become our club's highest earner. If you're a key member of the first team and someone comes in on more money than you, who is frequently injured and is out of form, what is that going to do to the morale of the squad? If it was me, I'd be thinking 'This bloke's here on big money based on the strength of his name and reputation, he's been injured, he hasn't hit top form since he was at Liverpool, meanwhile we're the ones who have gotten this club where it is over the last few seasons - now he's earning more than all of us?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 7 minutes ago, indierich06 said: He's reportedly on somewhere between £350-£400k a week. Even with a paycut, he will likely instantly become our club's highest earner. If you're a key member of the first team and someone comes in on more money than you, who is frequently injured and is out of form, what is that going to do to the morale of the squad? If it was me, I'd be thinking 'This bloke's here on big money based on the strength of his name and reputation, he's been injured, he hasn't hit top form since he was at Liverpool, meanwhile we're the ones who have gotten this club where it is over the last few seasons - now he's earning more than all of us?' The footballing reputation scale is the following IMO. Level 1 - Messi, Ronaldo possibly Neymar. Level 2 - Salah, Suarez, Coutinho, Griezmann etc... Level 3 - Vardy, Sterling, Kane etc... Level 4 - most of our squad (players like Tielemans are trying to break into level 3) Level 5 - Amartay types. If you are 2 levels below the player, you have no right to question them and should be in awe of their presence injured or not. What you're talking about might happen if a level 3 or 4 player came in on mega bucks and had a nightmare. Coutinho though would be a different level to what we've seen before and I'd imagine the players would be in awe whether he's injured or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 7 minutes ago, Collymore said: The footballing reputation scale is the following IMO. Level 1 - Messi, Ronaldo possibly Neymar. Level 2 - Salah, Suarez, Coutinho, Griezmann etc... Level 3 - Vardy, Sterling, Kane etc... Level 4 - most of our squad (players like Tielemans are trying to break into level 3) Level 5 - Amartay types. If you are 2 levels below the player, you have no right to question them and should be in awe of their presence injured or not. What you're talking about might happen if a level 3 or 4 player came in on mega bucks and had a nightmare. Coutinho though would be a different level to what we've seen before and I'd imagine the players would be in awe whether he's injured or not. I'd be in awe of his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeskeyForever Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 We all know how well our club is run and realistically, we're fully aware that the board won't jeopardise a model that they've spent years building for the sake of one player, however big their reputation. Should Coutinho be willing to take a wage cut, this would be monumental for the club - he'd be working with the manager who he played his best football under and when firing, he's an absolute magician. Moreover, he commands an enormous individual fanbase and would boost our global recognition massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: I'd be in awe of his agent. 2 years of Coutinho would cost the same as Slimani's transfer fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 I'd honestly have no interest in Coutinho at all, injury prone, massive wages and his stats hardly blow you away considering he will be playing for the massive favourite in the majority of games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 Just now, Collymore said: 2 years of Coutinho would cost the same as Slimani's transfer fee. And likely be just as much wasted money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 1 minute ago, Collymore said: 2 years of Coutinho would cost the same as Slimani's transfer fee. And both would go down as massive mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxFossil Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 4 minutes ago, HeskeyForever said: We all know how well our club is run and realistically, we're fully aware that the board won't jeopardise a model that they've spent years building for the sake of one player, however big their reputation. Should Coutinho be willing to take a wage cut, this would be monumental for the club - he'd be working with the manager who he played his best football under and when firing, he's an absolute magician. Moreover, he commands an enormous individual fanbase and would boost our global recognition massively. Good points. Wasn't one of Beckhams moves basically funded through shirt, merch, and advertising revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 1 minute ago, filbertway said: And likely be just as much wasted money Just now, SouthStandUpperTier said: And both would go down as massive mistakes. Hmmm taking into account what he would do for our global reputation I don't think you can categorically say that. Not to mention the manager knows him inside out and it's not a case that he will be definitely injured all the time like a lot of people have said will happen. We should definitely get him if we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post murphy Posted 20 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 20 July 2021 15 minutes ago, Collymore said: Level 1 - Messi, Ronaldo possibly Neymar. Level 2 - Salah, Suarez, Coutinho, Griezmann etc... Level 3 - Vardy, Sterling, Kane etc... Level 4 - most of our squad (players like Tielemans are trying to break into level 3) Level 5 - Amartay types. Level 42 - Kansas City milkman 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coolhandfox Posted 20 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 20 July 2021 (edited) With regards to profile this would be a massive signing, Coutinho has 23 million instagram following more then the club and the rest of the first team combined. Even with injury his played 42 games in the last 2 seasons, 14 goals, 11 assists. Edited 20 July 2021 by coolhandfox 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 He's Barcelona's mistake, not ours. Let them suffer the consequences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNM Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: With regards to profile this would be a massive signing, Coutinho has 23 million instagram following more then the club and the rest of the first team combined. Even with injury his played 42 games in the last 2 seasons, 14 goals, 11 assists. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 Just saw this - a reminder of how good he is. He’d be the most skilful player ever to play for us IMO. Better than Mahrez at his peak. He is still a very good footballer even if he has had a troubled period since leaving England. If the financial math somehow works out (I personally doubt that we will pay what would be needed), it would be box office. Tbh, even talking about this, it’s just amazing to me that this is even in the realms of possibility for the same Leicester City I grew up watching, love it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 20 July 2021 Share Posted 20 July 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: He's Barcelona's mistake, not ours. Let them suffer the consequences. Their mistake could be our opportunity. They aren't going to get a fee, they are a best going to get a loan or let him go for free. If he was on 200k a week you are looking at 20m for 2 years, minus all the extra money he bring in sponsorship, shirt sells etc We spent 24m on Ghezzel and Benkovic!!! Edited 20 July 2021 by coolhandfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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