Maddison

[CosbehFox]

Fckin hell Cantwell got 6 goals and 7 assists in the Championship champions, no thanks 

[UHDrive]

Just now, winteriscoming said:

Cantwell will go Villa if Grealish goes Man City. 

I'm surprised Cantwell is still at Norwich to be honest.

 

But in terms of like for life replacements (or near), those 2 couldn't be further apart.

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

I don't for sure, it an educated guess.

 

Maddison got 14 goals and 8 assists (22 Goal contributions) in the Championship the season we brought him, KDH got 3 goals and 6 assists  (9 Goal contributions) last season in the championship. 

 

It would be a big ask in my view. 

..Maddison was playing for a Norwich team looking to push for promotion!!!

  They came up without him the following season he was sold. Luton is a team looking to progress but with little funds or quality to do so.

[CosbehFox]

I’d have sold Maddison, mainly because of the chronic hip issue but I don’t see us now letting a player depart to a direct rival ten days before the season starts. 
 

We will probably start looking at a no 10 player over the next twelve months to replace him next summer 

[jonthefox]

1 hour ago, midland_red said:

Ah..

But do you know why it is  called Every Street?

No i don't. I have a feeling your're about to tell me. 

[winteriscoming]

7 minutes ago, UHDrive said:

I'm surprised Cantwell is still at Norwich to be honest.

 

But in terms of like for life replacements (or near), those 2 couldn't be further apart.

I just think it would be a no brainier from Villa. Get 100m + for Grealish and spend 20-25m on Cantwell. Leaving a far chunk to spend on the rest of the squad. 

[honeybradger]

I really like maddison but an important part of progress is avoiding stagnation and in order to do that we need to shake up the side every few years, with soumare instead we can maintain quality whilst also shaking up the dynamic of our midfield. Look at spurs who held on to players like eriksen, aldeweireld, dier etc for too long. Maddison has been here for 3 seasons now and is worth 70 mil, now might be a good time to cash in and keep the upward momentum before we start to stagnate.

[UHDrive]

8 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

I just think it would be a no brainier from Villa. Get 100m + for Grealish and spend 20-25m on Cantwell. Leaving a far chunk to spend on the rest of the squad. 

And sorting out their debt 🙈.

 

I've always liked Cantwell, he's nippy, good at taking on players with both feet and he'll take anyone on if he can. He also has the added maddison bonus of taking a tumble.

 

 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

5 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

I really like maddison but an important part of progress is avoiding stagnation and in order to do that we need to shake up the side every few years, with soumare instead we can maintain quality whilst also shaking up the dynamic of our midfield. Look at spurs who held on to players like eriksen, aldeweireld, dier etc for too long. Maddison has been here for 3 seasons now and is worth 70 mil, now might be a good time to cash in and keep the upward momentum before we start to stagnate.

OMG Maddison is only 24. Arsenal want him as they think he's only going to get better and as he's got a great personality they think he will be a marketing asset to the team, kind of a Beckham type figure in the squad judging by the posts on their forum and Arsenal supporting journalists hae written in online news I have read.

[gurru991]

Players like Maddison do not come along every day of the week & we are very lucky to have him. I have huge confidence in Leicesters management team & they must feel that his hip problem has been resolved.

We will need depth this season if we are to challenge on all fronts & I feel having options in midfield will be huge for us.

 

[jerry]

22 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I’d have sold Maddison, mainly because of the chronic hip issue but I don’t see us now letting a player depart to a direct rival ten days before the season starts. 
 

We will probably start looking at a no 10 player over the next twelve months to replace him next summer 

His value may well decrease by then.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Turned on the transfer show and darragh mcanthony said arsenal had done the best business this window because they'd signed white and maddison. And that Chelsea had a good window signing lukaku.

 

Those two cretins that present it are literally the worst.

Edited 3 August 2021 by Chocolate Teapot

[Bert]

1 minute ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Turned on the transfer show and darragh mcanthony said arsenal had done the best business this window because they'd signed white and maddison. And that Chelsea had a good window signing lukaku.

 

Those two cretins that present it are literally the worst.

Kaveh Solekhol? Absolute cretin

[turlo]

54 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

Was it ever there? 

 

no another idiotic arsenal twitter kid said the same thing back in june. apparently he's never had it on his bio but still loads of Leicester pictures on there

[gurru991]

1 minute ago, jerry said:

His value may well decrease by then.

That is the same for every player but not a valid reason to sell them. Leicester have managed their transfers quite smartly & I expect that to continue.  

[coolhandfox]

36 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..Maddison was playing for a Norwich team looking to push for promotion!!!

  They came up without him the following season he was sold. Luton is a team looking to progress but with little funds or quality to do so.

If you are going to come up with a point at least do the research, they finished 14th the season Maddison scored 14 , Luton finished 12th last season.

 

They used the Maddison money to fund their promotion push the season after.

 

@weller54 @sacreblueits442

 

Edited 3 August 2021 by coolhandfox

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

3 minutes ago, Bert said:

Kaveh Solekhol? Absolute cretin

Yeah and his dumb mate Darmesh.

[honeybradger]

3 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

OMG Maddison is only 24. Arsenal want him as they think he's only going to get better and as he's got a great personality they think he will be a marketing asset to the team, kind of a Beckham type figure in the squad judging by the posts on their forum and Arsenal supporting journalists hae written in online news I have read.

Eriksen fell of for spurs at 28, dele alli is 25 and dropped off a cliff. I had the same stance as you with chilwell last year but ive come to the realisation that freshening up the squad regularly is how we stay on top. I really like maddison and i think maddison ndidi tielemans is an excellent midfield but cashing in for 70 mil, investing that into 2 quality players and trying a more physical approach with soumare instead is the safer option for me. Pep guardiola and alex ferguson say you need to keep the squad fresh regualrly even if youre winning and id tend to agree with them considering theyre two of the best managers ever.

[brucey]

1 hour ago, chapero82 said:

Was it ever there? 

 

No it hasn't been there for ages.

[chapero82]

1 minute ago, brucey said:

No it hasn't been there for ages.

I thought so  they are a weird bunch 

[NYC Fox Fan]

What a bunch of a55hats

[Bert]

8 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Yeah and his dumb mate Darmesh.

It’s painful. Seriously living in borrowed time. Mad how many people still buy into it all. 

[knitro]

2 hours ago, ttfn said:

Ok, I’m going to out myself as one of the few people who thinks we should sell him.

 

We don’t have a bottomless pit of cash to

improve the squad and continue to progress. Our entire model as a club is built on selling players who are worth more to other clubs than they are to us. Maguire, Chilwell and Drinkwater are the poster boys in that regard. That doesn’t mean they’re bad players, it just means that we can do better for the money.

 

Maddison falls into that category. He’s invariably brilliant for a 6 week spell every season, decent for another 6 weeks and then somebody we’re painfully wishing back into form for at least half of the season. Arsenal are desperate right now, their fans were mutinous after the ESL business and it seems the Kroenkes have finally decided to throw serious money at the problem.

 

His goals and assists output is decent but no more than that for a top half number 10 on all set pieces (until recently) who doesn’t contribute greatly outside of those metrics. I’ve seen the stat about “most chances created” but a ton of those must have been chipped crosses onto Maguire and Evans’ heads because he’s nowhere near the top of the charts for expected assists since he’s been with us. The quality of those chances is evidently not great.

 

In Soumare, Tielemans and Ndidi we have the making of a truly top class midfield trio without the need for a traditional number 10. Soumare is still a bit of an unknown quantity in this set up but in the case of Tielemans and Ndidi losing them would be absolutely catastrophic to our style of play and efforts to build a team. These are players that are worth more to us than they are to other clubs and must not be sold if we can possibly avoid it.

 

Can we really say the same for Maddison? Is he really a player whose value to us is higher than it is to Arsenal or Spurs? Realistically that’s our market to sell him - he’s not good enough to play regularly for Chelsea (as I’ve said before he’d be at best 4th choice in one of the two positions behind the striker), Manchester United (nowhere near Fernandes), Man City or Liverpool (don’t play with a number 10). Arsenal are a “special purchaser”. They’re desperate but realistically one of only two options available to Maddison if he wants to go and earn more money and/or have a different life experience.

 

If we could get £60m for him I am very confident we could improve the squad to the extent that he would not be missed. That could fund a new winger and a more forward-minded central midfielder than the Tielemans/Ndidi/Soumare triumvirate.

 

Selling good players does not mean that we don’t value them. It means that the value another club has for them is greater than ours. At 24 and with 3 years left on his contract, Maddison’s value may never be higher. Could we miss him next season? Of course. But I trust that armed with £60m we could find a way to make both the starting XI and squad stronger than it is currently.

 

I don't know if I fully agree with this conclusion, but I think this is a very fair, sensible take. We will see. The way I see it is if 60M is possible, so is 75M. 

[deep blue]

2 hours ago, Lesta Legend said:

Yep it’s what we‘ll miss from Madders but also what Arsenal gain, a direct rival. 
 

It’s obvious we sell and we reinvest smart.. 
 

But to think we’ll give a main rival an advantage, to our own detriment at a late stage in the window, as we panic to replace a player capable of those all important stats, is quite frankly nonsense. Our owners are smart and I trust them implicitly. 

Arsenal are playing catch-up for sure but they’ve yet to learn how to deal with us, time is running out for them, fast.

On the other hand, if Arsenal sign him but his hip problems persist and worsen then it would be a disastrous buy for them, a total waste of money and a disruption to their strategy.

[AKCJ]

Arsenal fans are genuinely mental aren't they?