HankMarvin Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 10 minutes ago, Pliskin said: I knew pretty much straight away why he wasn’t starting. In the majority of his appearances he spent the majority of time with slumped shoulders and with a face like a slapped arse. He probably didn’t adjust quick enough, but there’s no time to settle in, he needed to hit the ground running and didn’t. He barely offered anything when he did start. Apart from 2 assists in his first 2 league starts.. went downhill from there when he started becoming a sub
suffolk fox Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 Underwhelmed by this. Scraping the barrel really?
Pliskin Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 1 minute ago, matty98 said: Just read a few threads on Fulham's forum, seems a lot of them think he's a very good player but faded out massively as the season went on. Also a lot say his decision making is poor. Sounds very Under-esque. Fulham faded too as the season went. It’s very hard to be a constant positive in a failing side! 2
Ric Flair Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 20 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: If we let Praet, Choudhury and Benkovic go, could we then get Lookman and someone else in? No, we also need Mendy gone just to be able to name Lookman in the EL squad. So for any other signings we'd need another 1st team player gone that hasn't come through our academy, or don't name Jakupovic in the EL squad. 12 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: A loan move with option to buy would be ideal, it will be down to the player to show they are motivated. It can go either way, but we've had very successful loans in the past; Robert Huth and Youri Tielemans come to mind. As it stands we've not lost a first team player, which is the first time that's happened since we won the title. That in itself is a big deal. Tielemans and Huth didn't have options to buy though, there's a rule of thought that if there's an agreement for the club to buy at a set price then the player can't get out of it without looking very crap so the club don't take them up on it 😂😂😂 1
Popular Post adam Posted 31 August 2021 Popular Post Posted 31 August 2021 4 minutes ago, Tanya said: Anyone know how we're going to play this lad? Mostly on the right? On the right, but he'll come a little more centrally? Very curious about how he'll fit into our system. Judging by our other summer signings brendan will put him straight on the bench and play Albrighton and perez 5
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 23 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: If we let Praet, Choudhury and Benkovic go, could we then get Lookman and someone else in? Yes if that happens. But no evidence choudhury or benkovic are going. Newcastle don't have the money for hamza even on loan.
AKCJ Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 Just now, Ric Flair said: No, we also need Mendy gone just to be able to name Lookman in the EL squad. So for any other signings we'd need another 1st team player gone that hasn't come through our academy, or don't name Jakupovic in the EL squad. Or just don't name the likes of Mendy in the EL squad. 1
Tanya Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 2 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: I think he's there to provide an option / cover for Barnes. Barnes had a bad game against Norwich, but we didn't have anyone on the bench with the same direct threat to replace him with. Now we do! Plus Harvey can't play every game. Every position in the team should have two people who can do a job there. Barnes' position was probably the only one that's not true for. Yeah our right wing options are average, but in Perez and Albrighton we do have players that can operate there. Guess we will get our answer against Man City, but I expect Lookman to come on at about 60/70 minutes for Barnes instead of Albrighton. Thanks Strider, I always appreciate your posts. I am surprised about the no right sided player. Perez isn't good enough and Albrighton is an amazing pro but needs to increase his goal scoring return. Still, the good thing is Lookman looks versatile and he's rapid. That's a start, at least. 1
foxfan92 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 1 minute ago, Tanya said: Anyone know how we're going to play this lad? Mostly on the right? On the right, but he'll come a little more centrally? Very curious about how he'll fit into our system. As many have pointed out on here, on the right, Perez seems to have been told to drift more centrally, allowing whoever is right back (normally Ricardo this season) to run down the wing, its why Ricardo has created a couple by getting down to the byline and cutting inside before playing the ball into Vardy in the box). I'd imagine Lookman (assuming he plays in that position) will similarly play more as an inside forward, and hopefully, as he seems quicker and stronger, than Perez, he'll be able to do the same kind of defensive work to help out Ricardo defensively (or Timmy), and have the pace to support up front when whoever is right back is on the attack, while not getting muscled off the ball as much. I think at times Perez's lack of pace and physicality shows when we try attacking down the right.
weller54 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 2 minutes ago, adam said: Judging by our other summer signings brendan will put him straight on the bench and play Albrighton and perez Only if Javupovic is unavailable that is.
mozartfox Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 8 minutes ago, majaco said: Lookman in the squad is more likely to improve is than make us worse! He was decent at Fulham. He was indeed decent at Fulham, in a struggling Team. I just hope BR gives him a real chance as on the face of it, for sure improves the first 11 compared to when Perez is starting. More pace and energy which is positive. 1
Pliskin Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Apart from 2 assists in his first 2 league starts.. went downhill from there when he started becoming a sub Attitude and unable to adapt I imagine. You can’t blame the manager at every opportunity like some would like too. If the player doesn’t come and throw everything at it they won’t succeed. Just look at Kelch, he was done here, and then he worked his arse off to become a key player and earn a new contract. So the sentiments the manager doesn’t give players a chance isn’t true, the players when given the chance aren’t doing enough to solidify their place in the team. Edited 31 August 2021 by Pliskin
Ric Flair Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 3 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Or just don't name the likes of Mendy in the EL squad. We would need another 1st team player out as well if we want to bring another in and name them in the EL squad. It would likely have to be a defender and with our injury problems that would be daft.
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 Im absolutely stunned at the high level of negativity on here about this..... Is it an amazing signing? No Is he a panic buy? Possibly. But come on guys, he's hardly terrible, in fact a very decent player and in an area that we are woefully short. Without doubt he could be a good signing if Rodgers can get his potential out. If it is a loan then its a risk free and bolsters the squad also As for the comments of him being right footed and more suited to the left, doesnt matter to be fair. Perez and Albrighton are both right footed and play on the right..... He'll cover a couple of roles and has potential to improve
Blanchflower78 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 Should be better than Under, has prem experience and an age where development is still happening. Fingers crossed. My main worry is Rodgers must look at what's happening around him with players moving and fees etc and does this project still excite him enough?
sdb Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 I think this is a great squad addition. We've effectively swapped him out for Praet, which gives our squad better balance. I think this will be us for the day but I'll do a little prayer that some hidden RW gem is also on his way...
Haywood_6 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 He seemed a good player at Fulham. Always a threat when he played. No he wouldn't be most people's first choice but we needed someone. Better make sure he gets a higher number of goals and assists than Gray does at Everton this season. Over to you Lookman.
filbertway Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 I look forward to him making more contributions than Perez in a few fleeting appearances and then being banished from the starting line up while big Dan Amartey gets a start on the right when Perez is injured. Then the fun part is being told by people that he's not a good enough right back to be playing on the wing for us.
indierich06 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 14 minutes ago, Tanya said: Anyone know how we're going to play this lad? Mostly on the right? On the right, but he'll come a little more centrally? Very curious about how he'll fit into our system. If he's anything like our other summer signings, he'll probably be sat on his arse on the bench.
turtmcfly Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 5 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: I think he's there to provide an option / cover for Barnes. Barnes had a bad game against Norwich, but we didn't have anyone on the bench with the same direct threat to replace him with. Now we do! Plus Harvey can't play every game. Every position in the team should have two people who can do a job there. Barnes' position was probably the only one that's not true for. Yeah our right wing options are average, but in Perez and Albrighton we do have players that can operate there. Guess we will get our answer against Man City, but I expect Lookman to come on at about 60/70 minutes for Barnes instead of Albrighton. Lookman much more two-footed than either of them - could see him being tried on the right wing as well
Greg2607 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 he may well be a decent addition, time will tell, but we certainly shouldn't be expecting him to come in and add a hatful of goals to the team. HIs goalscoring record is relatively sketchy. 25 goals in 156 appearances or 1 in every 6.5 games. Perez, by comparison is 1 in 4.5 games. (even if you only count his PL career, it's roughly the same) if you ONLY look at Lookmans top flight stats, he is 1 in 9 ish.... it doesn't scream goals. or assists either. his assist stats are even worse than his goalscoring one... 1
Innovindil Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 6 minutes ago, chris_lcfc_85 said: Im absolutely stunned at the high level of negativity on here about this..... Is it an amazing signing? No Is he a panic buy? Possibly. But come on guys, he's hardly terrible, in fact a very decent player and in an area that we are woefully short. Without doubt he could be a good signing if Rodgers can get his potential out. If it is a loan then its a risk free and bolsters the squad also As for the comments of him being right footed and more suited to the left, doesnt matter to be fair. Perez and Albrighton are both right footed and play on the right..... He'll cover a couple of roles and has potential to improve Think you're confusing negativity with disappointment. It's not that he's an awful player by any stretch, it's that out of the zillion wingers out there, we should be doing better. Can't expect people to get happy clappy over an average player anymore. 3
TiffToff88 Posted 31 August 2021 Posted 31 August 2021 14 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...it shouldn't be...!!! We have been crying out for a Right Winger for a few seasons now and our attempt to cover the positions were, Albrighton, Gray, Diabate, Ghezzal and Under, we haven't really been trying have we? As for the Mahrez standpoint, no one on here believes we are going to replace like for like..no one is saying so!!! At this moment we are looking at a player who has just moved into our U23s and we are clamouring to give him a run out in the position. It is not about the big name player, just someone who plays the role and is excited to do so, as opposed to someone who carries out instructions and is unspectacularly effective in the position. You're quite right, it SHOULDN'T be all we can hope for, but what i meant by that was that it's deadline day. Any world class wingers would cost far too much. The best we can hope for for today is someone who will be an upgrade on what we currently have, and Lookman will be just that. And with the Mahrez point, nobody is saying we should get a like for like Mahrez replacement, but you're kidding yourself if you think that nobody will be making comparisons to Mahrez with whoever we bring in. Nobody will match up to what we had in Mahrez unless we spend upwards of £80m, which we will never do.
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