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Nico González

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moseeds

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Who on earth at the club is looking at this deal and thinking 'this is a cracking use of 30 million and agent fees and will deffo hit the kpi of 120% wages to revenue ratio and really test our new physio facilities out, let's get this done'

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3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I like his mentality, he's got some fire bubbling away inside him which can't be said about a good chunk of our squad.

Obviously talent, style of play and ability to fit in with the group are key factors, but we're badly, badly missing some of the above in this squad, or so it seems.

 

When Faes came in, he was a breath of fresh air for that reason. He just loves defending and putting his body on the line for the team, as well being a good defender, good passer, etc.

 

Vardy looks a bit broken right now. His fire is burning low, whether that's through form, fitness, age, the recent court case and media attention, or a combination of it all, I don't know. But to inject a bit of shithousery and fire into the team will do it no end of good, I think.

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28 minutes ago, kingfox said:

Tbh mate I’m in your camp, I’ve never really considered him either tbf.

 

Too many red flags for my liking, the quoted price especially is my biggest turn off, can we afford to gamble like that again after the Perez failure 😕

 

It’s a signing that would simply have to work.


As for a judge of character though, on this one @moore_94 will have to be the judge. 

I rated him after his last season, haven't really paid that much attention to him this season but he is one I have liked and have on my "list" haha

 

Good in the air - which we don't really get from any of our forwards, very versatile - useful if we switch between wingers and 2 strikers etc, very quick and a very strong dribbler - our squad lacks both of these aspects massively

 

Also seems to at least have some balls on him compared to some of our current lot which I think we massively need

 

He has had a few injury issues but plenty of people, myself included, have been happy enough for us to still go for players such as Madueke, Souttar etc even though their issues have been much worse

 

If he does have attitude issues then we should stay away - haven't really read it in any articles apart from a few Fiorentina fans on Twitter (which you tend to see when most clubs could be selling a player anyway)

 

The £30m is probably a bit too much and we should walk away if the deal is for that, hopefully we are trying to swing it with some kind of loan deal

 

Personally with how we are with money at the moment I doubt we would go straight in swinging with a £30m bid

 

Pretty sure they were also interested in Praet last summer so might be one we try and do a deal with

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14 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said:

Someone tell me he’s the new Mahrez and 30 million is a steal … please … anyone? 

...not going by his YouTube showreel!!!

  Looks l8ke a hybrid player, seems comfortable play across the whole pitch upfront. Strange the reluctance to cut inside and shoot across the keeper, he seems to avoid doing so as much as it is Barnes go to move. He does favour going down the line but the result is not shown as more likely it comes to nothing.

  Not keen on a versatile forward player, I want a player that eat, sleeps  and only look to play on the right. Tsygankov does exactly what I am looking for and Madueke does the same. Tsygankov edges it for durability and deadball situations,  he can score from anywhere.

 Whether it is £30m or 30m in Euros, not going to say he is value for money, too expensive for what he is.

 Now if you are talking Tsygankov,  then bring him in, a £30m investment is more than worth it.

 

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29 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

I rated him after his last season, haven't really paid that much attention to him this season but he is one I have liked and have on my "list" haha

 

Good in the air - which we don't really get from any of our forwards, very versatile - useful if we switch between wingers and 2 strikers etc, very quick and a very strong dribbler - our squad lacks both of these aspects massively

 

Also seems to at least have some balls on him compared to some of our current lot which I think we massively need

 

He has had a few injury issues but plenty of people, myself included, have been happy enough for us to still go for players such as Madueke, Souttar etc even though their issues have been much worse

 

If he does have attitude issues then we should stay away - haven't really read it in any articles apart from a few Fiorentina fans on Twitter (which you tend to see when most clubs could be selling a player anyway)

 

The £30m is probably a bit too much and we should walk away if the deal is for that, hopefully we are trying to swing it with some kind of loan deal

 

Personally with how we are with money at the moment I doubt we would go straight in swinging with a £30m bid

 

Pretty sure they were also interested in Praet last summer so might be one we try and do a deal with

When it comes to wingers I think we’re caught between a rock and a hard place.

 

Do we go young with a higher upside, but have a rawness about them and may not hit the ground running straight away.

Do we gamble around the £30 million range in hope they don’t fail like Perez. 
 

When it comes to realistic targets for wingers, in all honesty nobody really jumps out as a “must have”. 
 

With González in particular there’s too many red flags, the rumoured price, the league he’s coming from, the concerns he’s had this season. 7 goals, 7 assists last season is solid numbers, he can play either side which is a bonus. This season however, he’s had injury troubles and only started three games. Serie A is also a league that has gone backwards in recent times, the only wingers to have caught real attention in that league over the past year are Leao and Kvaratskhelia, who are of course way out of our league.

 

Whether it’s González, Ouattara, Madueke, they all come with a hint of doubt. 
 

I just feel it’s too much of a gamble in the region of £30 million especially after failing on Perez. 
 

Loan with an option to buy would be the sensible route 👍🏻

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1 hour ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

Well I for one can't wait to wish him well as he departs for Istanbul Basaksehir with no option to buy

 

As an aside, have you seen Gala's squad recently. Absolutely hilarious. It's like a graveyard of FM 2004 wonderkids. 

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2 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

If you take his injuries out of the equation, this guy is really good. He would have made the Argentina World Cup squad and featured in their Copa America win. He's very versatile and has even played wing-back at times.

 

However, like the rest of the sentiment of this thread, paying a lot of money for someone with injury and attitude issues seems very risky given our current predicament.

This will be the clincher for Brendan. 

But seriously 30 million  is too much especially as he wouldn't last more than a handful of games before getting injured. Also that would basically mean no money for anyone else.

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i do get the feeling that any player coming in for rw must also be able to play lw. I think we know we have other options to fill in on the right (mads, praet, albrighton, perez) but we literally have nobody else in the squad who can comfortably play on the left. (maybe maddison can but we’ve not really seen it) 

 

Id guess the logic is that this player needs to be the person to switch to the left of barnes is ever out. so that one of the previously listed players can come in on the right 

 

we can probably rule out any rw only specialists :,( 

 

I honestly have no clue about this guy, but I feel that if we get that right it’s a good move. One of the things that was greta about west ham in the last 2 was how fluid their front options were. Bowen played left, right, cam and st and even when players were missing they always had options at a similar level. 

 

The dream would be a lw a rw and then a jack of all trades like this guy. But they all need to be first 11 standard and good enough to rotate. I want someone that makes us ask… should maddison be starting this one… that’s when we are back in business 

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26 minutes ago, reynard said:

This will be the clincher for Brendan. 

But seriously 30 million  is too much especially as he wouldn't last more than a handful of games before getting injured. Also that would basically mean no money for anyone else.

People hate it but there's a very strong argument that we should be playing wing backs right now anyway. Better defensively, have two up top, get the best out of Nacho, no Maddison so not really wasting him in the system. You get less control but can be more competitive. Worked OK when MON was in charge of the club, even if football has moved more to 343 instead of 352.

 

If we get Gonzalez, I think it's more likely to be a loan deal with option to buy than an outright purchase. If we went that way, would we be happier with the move?

 

 

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12 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

People hate it but there's a very strong argument that we should be playing wing backs right now anyway. Better defensively, have two up top, get the best out of Nacho, no Maddison so not really wasting him in the system. You get less control but can be more competitive. Worked OK when MON was in charge of the club, even if football has moved more to 343 instead of 352.

 

If we get Gonzalez, I think it's more likely to be a loan deal with option to buy than an outright purchase. If we went that way, would we be happier with the move?

 

 

Got no real issue with 3-5-2 / 3-4-1-2 / 3-4-3 but we don't have appropriate wing backs to play it properly, nor do I think it's Rodgers formation he's any good at.

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Stupid question……Have we brought any one in this far?  Has Rudders fired up his chainsaw and felled some dead trees yet?

 

I suspect the answer to both is - No fvcking idea?

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1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said:

People hate it but there's a very strong argument that we should be playing wing backs right now anyway. Better defensively, have two up top, get the best out of Nacho, no Maddison so not really wasting him in the system. You get less control but can be more competitive. Worked OK when MON was in charge of the club, even if football has moved more to 343 instead of 352.

 

If we get Gonzalez, I think it's more likely to be a loan deal with option to buy than an outright purchase. If we went that way, would we be happier with the move?

 

 

Why would maddison be wasted in that system? You just play him in the hole the same way we used Mahrez. 

 

The issue is the left back slot. Thomas is not up to that role but if we bring in the right sort of player than this system is the way to go. 

 

The one player that has to make way for it though, is Barnes.  But given how terrible weve been recently, id rather make him a second striker 

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1 hour ago, jim5000 said:

We’re not buying anyone. We’re so desperate as a club that I can’t believe that we’d still be negotiating now rather than having the deals wrapped up with just the formalities to sign 1st January.


 

it just isn’t as simple as that. Some times deals can only be done based on what other deals get done at other clubs. Clubs don’t often want to sell a player  until their replacement is signed .  Kind of like being in a house buying chain.

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