Harry Winks

[Flappit]

2 hours ago, sphericalfox said:

He was on autopilot. Kick back to Mads. Mads wasn't there. A momentary brain fart. He'll learn from it. He's integral to the way we play. I hope we can find cover within the squad to give him a break when he needs it, cos when Winks hasn't played, we have looked a much lesser team.

He was clearly trying to play a pass out wide with his left foot, first time. It bobbled a bit, missed his left foot and hit his standing foot. Watch the replay. 

[Unabomber]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Different interpretations then. I just took it to mean the ‘play’ was not good enough. Which of course it wasn’t but as I said above, not a reason to change what we are doing especially when the same player in the same scenario was key to our second goal. 
 

I agree that the poster was probably not being serious and/or only meant it in the way I have said. I do think the poster who told them to go and support another team however was being serious which is what I was picking up on.

I was only joking I think he is fantastic. 

[Tielemans63]

Wow!

 

[Dahnsouff]

I reckon that one stray pass was worth the missing 10%

[bovril]

15 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

Wow!

 

Headline makes it sound like he did it in one game. 

[Jobyfox]

32 minutes ago, Tielemans63 said:

Wow!

 

Yep. That one straight to the Watford player standing right in front of our goal was 100% 

 

Only joking - he’s been a great signing for us 

[ARM1968]

Been outstanding all season. One slip up yesterday can be forgiven. Didn’t cost us in the end but did make the last section of the game a bit squeaky 🤣

[blueharmie]

Agh.....he's human after all!!

 

Absolute gem of a player.

[Sampson]

I’d be extremely surprised if that stat is genuinely true. We’re only 31 games into the season. He’s not going to have had the most passes in Championship history with 15 games to spare 

[coolhandfox]

9 minutes ago, Sampson said:

I’d be extremely surprised if that stat is genuinely true. We’re only 31 games into the season. He’s not going to have had the most passes in Championship history with 15 games to spare 

That not the stat though is it! 

 

It's about the amount combined with the accuracy of 90%

[Dan LCFC]

I don't even think the error was a result of the tactics really. It was just a really shit pass. There's no long term concern in that goal for me. It happens and we've not paid the price for it.

[Ric Flair]

23 hours ago, Bptiger said:

The fact is we should not be putting our selfs in that position, two goals up , we don’t need to be taking risks like that , and no blame on winks , but mads needs to show better judgement, it’s not his 1st howler

Should we have not taken risks that created our 2nd goal then? In which case we're 1 nil up and playing the football you think we should play at that point which is to get it forward and out of harms way as soon as possible, which then means its coming back our way even quicker.

 

You can't be the buyer and the seller.

[ParkerPen]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Should we have not taken risks that created our 2nd goal then? In which case we're 1 nil up and playing the football you think we should play at that point which is to get it forward and out of harms way as soon as possible, which then means its coming back our way even quicker.

 

You can't be the buyer and the seller.

we arguably should have had another goal from a similar move from the back in this game as well...

Edited 12 February by ParkerPen

[DesertFox]

12 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

That not the stat though is it! 

 

It's about the amount combined with the accuracy of 90%

Plus the fact that "Championship history" means "since we've been keeping these sorts of records" which is probably about five seasons. Still impressive, though!

[Death by Football]

With the high risk style we play we will see the occasional one of these errors.  Fortunately we're restricting it to a couple of times a season rather than a couple of times a match like under BR.

Winks has been one of the stand out players of the season so he gets a pass on the odd mistake.

Basically we saw the best and the worst outcomes from our style of play yesterday.

[Les-TA-Jon]

1 hour ago, DesertFox said:

Plus the fact that "Championship history" means "since we've been keeping these sorts of records" which is probably about five seasons. Still impressive, though!

Championship in its current iteration is 20 years old FYI 

[lcfcsnow]

2 minutes ago, Death by Football said:

With the high risk style we play we will see the occasional one of these errors.

I'd prefer us to take more risks in the oppositions half instead, we hardly tested Ben Hamer at all as we seem to be looking for the perfect opportunity to take a shot on goal, other than the penalty we only had a couple which is poor.

[5waller5]

4 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Championship in its current iteration is 20 years old FYI 

I think his point was how long have they been counting passes per player / success of them?

 

20 years in the 2nd flight? Seems like a long time to me.

[Gamble92]

1 hour ago, DesertFox said:

Plus the fact that "Championship history" means "since we've been keeping these sorts of records" which is probably about five seasons. Still impressive, though!

Call me cynical but I can't picture any perm-headed, moustached defensive midfielder in the 1940s outdoing Winks for pass completion. 

[ARM1968]

At who?

[MPH]

5 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Call me cynical but I can't picture any perm-headed, moustached defensive midfielder in the 1940s outdoing Winks for pass completion. 

 

 

I think they had an extra Stat back then too. " kneecaps taken".

[Qwerty]

 

Everyone makes mistakes! 

[BSLBPod]

33 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

I'd prefer us to take more risks in the oppositions half instead, we hardly tested Ben Hamer at all as we seem to be looking for the perfect opportunity to take a shot on goal, other than the penalty we only had a couple which is poor.

Seems to be working quite well for us.

 

Most goals, best defensive record, most points.

Edited 12 February by BSLBPod

[Les-TA-Jon]

50 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said:

I'd prefer us to take more risks in the oppositions half instead, we hardly tested Ben Hamer at all as we seem to be looking for the perfect opportunity to take a shot on goal, other than the penalty we only had a couple which is poor.

The whole point of the attacking part of our system is to reduce the chance of being caught on the transition / to concede too many turnovers of possession once we've committed players forward into the opposition half. It's why we will often recycle the ball multiple times and why we generally take fewer risks the further up the pitch. Especially important when 90% of the teams we face are set up to sit deep and try and hit us on the counter. 

 

This is also to account for our personnel, particularly Vestergaard in the centre of defence.

 

You will have seen in the early games of the season (Coventry H in particular) how vulnerable we look we caught on the transition, due to his lack of pace. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

18 hours ago, Tielemans63 said:

Wow!

 

Not bad for one game!