Callum Doyle

[Lesta2014]

That pass for cannon gets better every time I see it! 

[dmayne7]

On 06/01/2024 at 15:12, Lillehamring said:

I don't think it was his defending that was his weakest attribute today - he made a fantastic double block at one point - it was his sloppy short passing.

And whilst he does look a bit slow, i don't think he's quite as bad as people make out.

 

As has been said, he's not played for months, i thought he did just fine.

Yep, it was a great double block. Shame his positioning was absolutely shocking in the first instance that meant he had to make those blocks.

 

He was very poor yesterday though a glorious pass for Cannon's goal and given his lack of pace, he's likely to look even more rusty after such a long lay lay off so isn't a game to judge him on really.

[Lillehamring]

1 hour ago, dmayne7 said:

Yep, it was a great double block. Shame his positioning was absolutely shocking in the first instance that meant he had to make those blocks.

 

He was very poor yesterday though a glorious pass for Cannon's goal and given his lack of pace, he's likely to look even more rusty after such a long lay lay off so isn't a game to judge him on really.

Very poor? - what nonsense. no one played badly, certainly not very poorly.

[SemperEadem]

15 hours ago, Lesta2014 said:

That pass for cannon gets better every time I see it! 

I could watch it all day.

[Paninistickers]

It's not quite working out for him, or us, is it? 

 

 

[dbtcity]

Just now, Paninistickers said:

It's not quite working out for him, or us, is it? 

 

 

Thought he looked mustard before he picked up his injury… looks like he’s really struggling getting back up to speed since his return though

[Paninistickers]

5 minutes ago, dbtcity said:

Thought he looked mustard before he picked up his injury… looks like he’s really struggling getting back up to speed since his return though

Was never quite sold on him. In fairness,  For 19 years of age, he's way ahead of par. But,.more or less, from day 1 I thought JJ offers us more all round. And so it's proved. 

 

Ben Nelson looked head and shoulders ahead of him today too. 

[moore_94]

Not sure whether it was a tactical thing or not but he seemed to find himself out of position quite a bit in the first half today, often leaving Wanya to have to attempt to deal with stuff at left back

 

He was also targeted by Millwall in the last round of the cup and they got a lot of joy in behind him

 

I like him and thought he was doing well before his injury, but at the moment he doesn't deserve to start games ahead of JJ

 

He will have to really push on with any more games he gets this season to make me think we should make it permanent in the summer

[frany104]

For me it’s quite simple, he isn’t a left back. He’s a cb. He is too slow to be out at lb and not a good enough 1v1 defender. 
 

if he starts playing at cb I could see him flourishing. He’s very composed on the ball and I would like to see him start at Cb. 

[CosbehFox]

27 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Not sure whether it was a tactical thing or not but he seemed to find himself out of position quite a bit in the first half today, often leaving Wanya to have to attempt to deal with stuff at left back

 

He was also targeted by Millwall in the last round of the cup and they got a lot of joy in behind him

 

I like him and thought he was doing well before his injury, but at the moment he doesn't deserve to start games ahead of JJ

 

He will have to really push on with any more games he gets this season to make me think we should make it permanent in the summer

I am certain opposition analysis have noted his weakness because a few teams have used that channel. Quite simply he’s a CB and he’s pulled out to defend a flank, it’s all a bit ‘wrong’ 

[Ric Flair]

57 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Was never quite sold on him. In fairness,  For 19 years of age, he's way ahead of par. But,.more or less, from day 1 I thought JJ offers us more all round. And so it's proved. 

 

Ben Nelson looked head and shoulders ahead of him today too. 

I said this after the Millwall game and got vilified. It's true and he's ours!!

[Chelmofox]

Wasn’t convinced before the injury. The big advantage is getting the ball upfield quickly, but he is lacking otherwise. Other teams are targeting him - it’s no accident we see it time and time again. JJ has kicked on significantly, and is way ahead in the pecking order.  Would definitely rather see minutes from a Nelson moving forward. 

[lcfc sheff]

Unless he’s going incredibly cheap come summer id not even attempt to buy him. He just doesn’t have it. As others have mentioned before me Nelson looks far more suitable. Justin is certainly the main man now 

[Aleksz]

11 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Not sure whether it was a tactical thing or not but he seemed to find himself out of position quite a bit in the first half today, often leaving Wanya to have to attempt to deal with stuff at left back

 

He was also targeted by Millwall in the last round of the cup and they got a lot of joy in behind him

 

I like him and thought he was doing well before his injury, but at the moment he doesn't deserve to start games ahead of JJ

 

He will have to really push on with any more games he gets this season to make me think we should make it permanent in the summer

I think it was a case of Wanya following the right back man to man yesterday, and more of a tactical issue. Wanya was nowhere near strong enough to deal with it. 
 

Doyles definitely been slow getting back up to standard since the injury no doubt, but let’s not forget he was quality before it.

 

Needs a run of games again, but I don’t think he’s gonna get it with Justin being so solid.

[Chelmofox]

6 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

I think it was a case of Wanya following the right back man to man yesterday, and more of a tactical issue. Wanya was nowhere near strong enough to deal with it. 
 

Doyles definitely been slow getting back up to standard since the injury no doubt, but let’s not forget he was quality before it.

 

Needs a run of games again, but I don’t think he’s gonna get it with Justin being so solid.

I keep reading this, and appreciate its opinion. But i don't think he was quality at all, just good at times. Teams had already started to target him and imho he had started to show some defensive frailties. His biggest asset was the ability to pass with his left foot and transition up the field quickly. It's interesting in a match like yesterday where defensive quality was needed, he actually struggled and we needed a more experienced head in his place.

 

However! He's only 20 and he's still developing. I have to remember he is the same age as Brandon Cover and younger than Arjan Raikhy!!

[Aleksz]

5 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I keep reading this, and appreciate its opinion. But i don't think he was quality at all, just good at times. Teams had already started to target him and imho he had started to show some defensive frailties. His biggest asset was the ability to pass with his left foot and transition up the field quickly. It's interesting in a match like yesterday where defensive quality was needed, he actually struggled and we needed a more experienced head in his place.

 

However! He's only 20 and he's still developing. I have to remember he is the same age as Brandon Cover and younger than Arjan Raikhy!!

Agree to disagree mate. One thing we’re mutual on right now is he’s not up to standard at the minute. Hope he turns it round.

[MGLCFC]

Wonder if he could play the Vestergaard role, presuming Vesty isn't around next year. He is comfortable on the ball and won't get exposed as much centrally as he does out wide. Just a thought. Him, Nelson and Faes wouldn't be too bad as 3 of the 4 centre backs in the squad?

Edited 28 January by MGLCFC

[South Shire Fox]

Too slow to play as a LB in this system imo. I do like him as a player though, think he’d be more effective central. I dont like the idea (if we go up) of Prem wingers running at him at all

Edited 28 January by South Shire Fox

[Supergray22]

13 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I said this after the Millwall game and got vilified. It's true and he's ours!!

That was a very calm assured performance from Nelson yesterday. He adds a bit of pace to our back line besides dominance in the air. He seems to have improved his knowledge of positioning and it helped pull the rest of the defence into position especially second half. He has plenty of time to develop more but I hope we see more of him in the near future. 

[Blanchflower78]

2 hours ago, lcfc sheff said:

Unless he’s going incredibly cheap come summer id not even attempt to buy him. He just doesn’t have it. As others have mentioned before me Nelson looks far more suitable. Justin is certainly the main man now 

Completely agree. He looks too exposed at the wide left role. I'd imagine tucked in a defensive "two" he'd be much better suited but that doesn't appear on the cards. Justin came on a completely lifted that side of the pitch. 

[Claridge]

1 hour ago, MGLCFC said:

Wonder if he could play the Vestergaard role, presuming Vesty isn't around next year. He is comfortable on the ball and won't get exposed as much centrally as he does out wide. Just a thought. Him, Nelson and Faes wouldn't be too bad as 3 of the 4 centre backs in the squad?

Not as good as vesty and not much quicker, which is a worry 

[Paninistickers]

2 hours ago, MGLCFC said:

Wonder if he could play the Vestergaard role,

I think we all might underestimate how physically strong Vestergaard is to play that role. 

 

Numerous occasions each game, he makes what ordinarily be a risky move but he has the strength to hold off the opponent and move past. Vesty's role is really really specialised. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I think the injury has curtailed the undoubted progress he was making,

he isn’t being rushed back from the injury, rightly so and as a consequence it will take him a few games to get back up to speed. He has missed a lot of football over the last 3/4 months, I think we just need a little patience, he is a very talented player and will be back to his levels in time. 
 

I still think he will sign permanently in the summer. I could see him and Nelson being the backbone of our defence in a couple of years time. 

[whoareyaaa]

15 hours ago, frany104 said:

For me it’s quite simple, he isn’t a left back. He’s a cb. He is too slow to be out at lb and not a good enough 1v1 defender. 
 

if he starts playing at cb I could see him flourishing. He’s very composed on the ball and I would like to see him start at Cb. 

Good observation 

Doyle,  Faes and Vesterguard as cb options in the Prem would be pretty good.

 

I don't know If the coaching staff or Doyle would have even considered that yet though

Edited 28 January by whoareyaaa

[gurru991]

6 hours ago, MGLCFC said:

Wonder if he could play the Vestergaard role, presuming Vesty isn't around next year. He is comfortable on the ball and won't get exposed as much centrally as he does out wide. Just a thought. Him, Nelson and Faes wouldn't be too bad as 3 of the 4 centre backs in the squad?

I think he could play that role quite comfortably but we don't know if he will be back next season.  I think Man C would sell but I don't know if we could afford him.