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The Enzo Thread

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Muzzy_no7

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Losing 7, 8 or 9 would’ve been silly but to lose 11 really has cheesed me off.

 

So many managers have got the better of him this season.

 

He deserves till mid- November in the EPL to prove he’s capable. 

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l444ry

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Just now, Unabomber said:

What about saints away early doors for example 

Think I'm not making myself clear. We were superb first half of the season. Peak Enzo. But when we got into a bad run he appeared (to me) to lose his way. Same players, same tactics, same everything. Lose to Plymouth, Bristol City, Millwall etc. and it looked like the wheels were coming off. Along comes Vardy's Meeting and nine points garnered. Could be coincidence or could be something was taken on board by the players that Enzo wasn't giving them? Possession stats dropped but we reversed the decline. Just my observation.  

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ChrisFilter

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2 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

how many clubs have been promoted as champions with 11 losses? i think fulham were close a few years ago

Well, yes, but we also won ****ing loads. 

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Muzzy_no7

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1 minute ago, don_danbury said:

how many clubs have been promoted as champions with 11 losses? i think fulham were close a few years ago

Our squad and budget compared to 66-90% of this league is just ridiculous. 
 

11 losses is part of why this Promotion comes with an asterisk. 

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Ricey

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I did think that a parting of ways was probably sensible in the summer, but hearing that he’s trying to get the club to restructure has potentially changed my mind.

 

I’m still not convinced that his style will work in the PL, but if he now has enough sway to wrestle some control away from Rudkin then it will be a hugely positive thing for the club.

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Dahnsouff

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Why bother cherry picking a stat so you can stay entrenched to your original position? He got us promoted after an extremely toxic season last year. He is making a move to restructure what he feels is wrong, which people have been calling for, for absolutely ages.

 

You can guess his style won’t work, and I dare say with this personnel with this style it wouldn’t, but even if he get an absolute stiffing, if he can elicit serious change, the.back the man I say.

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Matt

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1 hour ago, don_danbury said:

how many clubs have been promoted as champions with 11 losses? i think fulham were close a few years ago

It's pretty poor and abit of concern.

 

Also, it highlights how pointless draws are. We've had 4.

 

Now on the face of it you'd think we'd lost the 11 trying to go all out for the win, I don't think we were though.

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FOXSE

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If you have been mainly unhappy this season, rather than mainly very happy (we won 31 league games), then you are going to spend nearly the entirety of your time as a football fan, whatever team you supported, pretty unhappy.

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Ric Flair

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I've enjoyed the football, I've not enjoyed a lot of his principles and I don't think I ever will unless he changes.

 

Not arsed if he goes, not arsed if he stays. 

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Corky

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I don't think getting to 110 points changes anything for next season, this squad is significantly weaker than the one that went down and we have restrictions and points deductions on the way to add to the difficulties.

 

If Enzo keeps us up it will be a phenomenal job. I don't think he or anyone else does though. The mistakes of the past and poor running will hit soon.

Cropwellfox

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11 minutes ago, Corky said:

I don't think getting to 110 points changes anything for next season, this squad is significantly weaker than the one that went down and we have restrictions and points deductions on the way to add to the difficulties.

 

If Enzo keeps us up it will be a phenomenal job. I don't think he or anyone else does though. The mistakes of the past and poor running will hit soon.

Yeh, think the chants we heard about Rudkin are going to get louder and louder as we head into next season as the anger about the mismanagement grows in line with the impact it has on us. 

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Mickyblueeyes

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1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I've enjoyed the football, I've not enjoyed a lot of his principles and I don't think I ever will unless he changes.

 

Not arsed if he goes, not arsed if he stays. 

This is it for me. I don’t expect anyone to understand it and I completely appreciate anyone who wants to criticise me for it. But if we have the parade tomorrow and Monday get a tweet that Leicester City have parted company with Enzo Maresca, I’d probably shrug and say ok, cool.

 

If I’m trying to make sense of why I’m feeling like that, I can say I think Enzo has a lot of good qualities. But also think there are issues and perhaps both parties are not suited. One of those issues is his lack of basic professionalism. 3/4 times this season, happily criticising board, fans etc. in some cases, absolutely warranted but we’ve had a manager before who was happy to wash his laundry in public and belittle/criticise the club in public and it ended in tears for us. A few grumbles, fine, all managers do it but it’s at risk of being consistent and that’s not on for me.
 

I also think we cannot fund his dream and it’s unfair on both parties to pretend we can. That’s another recipe for disaster.
 

Enzo has done a good job this year. The most impressive is getting us out of the rut at the end. Well done. However, this isn’t O’Neil/Pearson fears if he goes. Well not for me. 

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Langston

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3 hours ago, don_danbury said:

how many clubs have been promoted as champions with 11 losses? i think fulham were close a few years ago

 

In the Championship era - loads have been promoted with either the same or more losses than us this year. Think the worst is Hull, who went up in 12/13 with 15 losses. 

 

Losing 11 and going up isn't that remarkable.

ARM1968

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I think, if Enzo has any intelligence at all, he jumps ship before the start of next season. Some have mentioned Saville could be an option. His stock won’t get any higher with us and he now knows our financial position. 

Foxdiamond

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4 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Losing 7, 8 or 9 would’ve been silly but to lose 11 really has cheesed me off.

 

So many managers have got the better of him this season.

 

He deserves till mid- November in the EPL to prove he’s capable. 

We got 31 wins. Another season could have seen fewer losses and more draws but also fewer wins. I bet most of us would have snapped up the prospect of 97 points at the start.

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BrummieFOX

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I want him to stay purely because he has more vision and focus than any other decision maker at the club. 

 

I actually quite like the football, but even if you don't, at the very least, he has a plan. 

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don_danbury

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2 hours ago, Matt said:

It's pretty poor and abit of concern.

 

Also, it highlights how pointless draws are. We've had 4.

 

Now on the face of it you'd think we'd lost the 11 trying to go all out for the win, I don't think we were though.

i think draws have been very important for ipswich this season. 

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don_danbury

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31 minutes ago, Langston said:

 

In the Championship era - loads have been promoted with either the same or more losses than us this year. Think the worst is Hull, who went up in 12/13 with 15 losses. 

 

Losing 11 and going up isn't that remarkable.

my fault, i meant as champions how many have lost 11 matches

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Langston

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11 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

my fault, i meant as champions how many have lost 11 matches

 

Yeah in amongst that a few have gone up with 12 losses as champions.

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