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Posted
2 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

This one is a troublesome read. How the hell have the gotten us into this bad of a situation?

 

 

 

 

This will probably be a big issue for potential buyers. They've ran us into the ground, sooner they're out the better. 

 

Does give grim reading, that we are way worse than you'd initially have thought.

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Joe90 said:

We don’t need a bigger ground at all, you normally need bigger grounds when we you a maxing the attendance 90% of the season when was the last time we actually sold out? We certainly don’t need to be wasting our money on making our ground bigger for empty seats 

You’ve a short memory, we always sell our ST allocation, and just because a lot of people didn’t come last season due to the horrendous football and the board that is despised we’ve a massive fanbase , one club city with over a million people living in the county/ city

 

How many people who wanted to go to games couldn’t because the lack of tickets available when we was in the prem

 

We should be looking at a 42-45000 capacity

 

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Posted
29 minutes ago, VLC86 said:

So the amount we pay in interest on this loan is the equivalent to the annual income for an average league 1 club.

 

Ive never been more convinced that we go bust than i currently am.

Be careful what you wish for though, it could be out of the frying pan into the fire with new owners 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, dayday said:

You’ve a short memory, we always sell our ST allocation, and just because a lot of people didn’t come last season due to the horrendous football and the board that is despised we’ve a massive fanbase , one club city with over a million people living in the county/ city

 

How many people who wanted to go to games couldn’t because the lack of tickets available when we was in the prem

 

We should be looking at a 42-45000 capacity

 

I think we can park this bus for years. No way we'll need a 42-45k stadium any time soon! We just won't have a squad to get to the premier League for a while. 

 

Anyway, one step at a time, we need to get out of this league first before expansion is even a thought. 

Posted
13 hours ago, Ted Maul said:

* of the modern (PL) era.

 

It would probably extend back a few years further than that, but I can't be arsed to check.

It's since 2000, so Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, and Liverpool are the other five clubs to have won all three major trophies in that time.

Posted
4 minutes ago, FoxesTalker said:

It's since 2000, so Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, and Liverpool are the other five clubs to have won all three major trophies in that time.

Same applies back to 1992, and probably even further back to Everton's last league title.

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Posted

So we still have roughly around £18m in transfer fee’s book value per year, add the £9.6m per year in interest fee’s, that’s £27.6m before you even consider player wages.

 

For context we’ve raised around £24.5m profit from player sales. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

In my opinion we don't survive under King Power, so any new owner can't be any worse than sticking with them as it's just a race against time to liquidation. The numbers don't compute.

Absolutely, the frying pan fire thing is comical. How much more fire could we be in! The frying pan was years ago!

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Posted

Paying roughly 200k a week just to service our debt in league one.... grim. So if Top doesn't put anymore in, that means soon as the cash dries up and we can't pay there will be EFL points deductions, potential relegation to L2 and administration. Better hope for a quick takeover by some white knight or we are absolutely cooked boys.

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Posted
10 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

 

Not sure if this has been covered elsewhere but this why we're not going to buy anyone unless get get taken over.

I looked at this and was horrified at it. However, I have no context or reference to measure this against. I don't know whether this sort of thing is just normal business as usual for premiership clubs. We know that there are often staged payments involved in transfers so its possible that although this looks dramatic, I suppose it might just be how football clubs operate.

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Posted
19 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

In my opinion we don't survive under King Power, so any new owner can't be any worse than sticking with them as it's just a race against time to liquidation. The numbers don't compute.

I think admin is inevitable. Why spend X amount when you could wait out until the asset is a LOT cheaper. 

 

As a fan I literally hate being so pessimistic but the pattern of behaviour from KP only points one way. A very horrible bumpy ride. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Bablemikey said:

I looked at this and was horrified at it. However, I have no context or reference to measure this against. I don't know whether this sort of thing is just normal business as usual for premiership clubs. We know that there are often staged payments involved in transfers so its possible that although this looks dramatic, I suppose it might just be how football clubs operate.

It’s normal for clubs to pay for players in installments. It’s probably not so normal that the total amount due equates to 300% the average income of teams at your level. We are lucky we can sell players at the minute, but next season we won’t have that privilege.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, ronnup said:

 

Ask Sheffield Wednesday 

Yep, and we're rocketing to Wednesday levels of disaster. When you think it can't get any worse, it does. 

 

The only difference is Chansari was a power mad sociopath and Top seems a decent enough guy who is incompetent and totally out of his depth. It will end up with the same result though. 

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Posted
19 hours ago, CruzNoir said:


Huh?

 

Globally we rank 7th most supported club in English football, considerably ahead according to online surveys of all clubs outside the traditional “top 6”
 

Now is the perfect time for a billionaire to snap us up with the position we are in, we have everything ready to go, it’s actually quite a unique opportunity 

I think if we're honest with ourselves, a lot of this is legacy-based due to the 15/16 season - the CIES Football Observatory puts us 7th due to our large social media following, but that doesn't mean much in our current situation. That Cape Verde goalkeeper is one of the most followed footballers on Instagram due to his showing at the World Cup but I don't think people will remember his name in 6 months, but they'll still be following him. I'm happy to be proven wrong by data, but doesn't feel like we are more popular than the likes of Villa or Newcastle for example at the minute. Maybe we're more of a recognised name globally because of what we did 10 years ago, but I don't think that translates into regular support of the club and global potential, but perhaps I'm wrong. 

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

I think admin is inevitable. Why spend X amount when you could wait out until the asset is a LOT cheaper. 

 

As a fan I literally hate being so pessimistic but the pattern of behaviour from KP only points one way. A very horrible bumpy ride. 

I'm quite a pessimist but I don't necessarily buy this line of thinking - yeah, you'd lay out a lot less cash initially, but then you'd have a club with basically no sellable assets in terms of players, and you'd lose a lot of what makes the club a prestige purchase in the first place - training ground probablu gets scrapped, academy loses Cat 1 status, then you have to invest a HELL of a lot of money into rebuilding a club from the ground up. If you're an investor who backs themselves, you probably see a club which is currently undervalued due to mismanagement and current league status, and you'd think "ok, this is a great chance to buy a club with potential, make some adjustments and potentially compete at the top end of the championship again, and perhaps the Premier League". The fact that we appear to be in talks with (hopefully) serious investors shows that there are people out there who would see us as a going concern at the right price. 

 

Long story short, if I was buying a motor, I'd rather buy something that needed a few repairs than a total write off. 

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Posted
24 minutes ago, VLC86 said:

Some very good/popular staff members at Seagrave are leaving, probably because they don’t feel like their jobs are secure.

Yeh, obviously less visible than when a player/manager leaves but there's been a complete talent drain from the club over the last 4/5 years or more really. Not saying there aren't talented staff left but why would you stick around. It's going to take a long long time to rebuild this club back to anything close to what it was.

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Posted
12 hours ago, Sly said:

Clubs I’d guess have a bigger fan Base than Leicester City.

 

1. Manchester United

2. Manchester City

3. Liverpool

4. Chelsea

5. Arsenal

6. Tottenham

7. Everton

8. Nottingham Forest

9. Newcastle

10. Aston Villa

11. Leeds United

12. West Ham

 

I’d imagine we are likely 13th-ish, with the likes of Wolves, Sunderland etc 

 

Forest no chance 

Posted

I would have Leeds, Newcastle, Villa ad West Ham all above Forest.

 

When we are all successful Derby, Forest and Leicester are all simliar sized clubs, not matter how loud each of them shout to argue diffferently.

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Posted
2 hours ago, fox_favourite said:

I think we can park this bus for years. No way we'll need a 42-45k stadium any time soon! We just won't have a squad to get to the premier League for a while. 

 

Anyway, one step at a time, we need to get out of this league first before expansion is even a thought. 

A case of what could’ve been unfortunately 

Posted
12 minutes ago, teblin said:

I would have Leeds, Newcastle, Villa ad West Ham all above Forest.

 

When we are all successful Derby, Forest and Leicester are all simliar sized clubs, not matter how loud each of them shout to argue diffferently.

I agree. 
 

I only placed them above us when I made that list as they’re in the Premier League currently and will get more eyes on them. 

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