Charlie Meffin says Top is rumoured to want £140m, so really how much are we worth?

[Samilktray]

10 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

£140 million is actually quite reasonable considering our assets and fan base, as well as recent(ish) success. 

 

That is why I suspect Top is stupidly asking for even more than that and scaring away potential buyers. 

 

Not sure Charlie Meffin has that much inside info to be honest, but it does generate views and attention for him to pretend he does. 

Sounds like him asking for 140 million is infact scaring away potential buyers, based on pretty much all of the noise

[hackneyfox]

Believing anything on Talkshite will lead you down so many rabbit holes.

[los dedos]

1 hour ago, sylofox said:

But what is he selling for 140m?

 

As i understand it the club owns Belvoir Drive and the contracted players.

 

KP own Seagrave and the Stadium.

 

 

Came to make that exact point,  hearing they want 140m  but that's NOT including KP and Seagrave!

[sylofox]

26 minutes ago, los dedos said:

Came to make that exact point,  hearing they want 140m  but that's NOT including KP and Seagrave!

If thats the case the clubs worth nothing.

 

You would be mad to pay 10m and all the debt with no ground.

 

140m with the ground and seagrave is is really pushing it with 80m debt.

 

So i'll go back to my original thoughts when this first came up. We aint really for sale but saying we are will take the heat off of Top n Rudkin.

[Muzzy_no7]

I reckon we are worth about 60-70m

[wurmer]

There's no way we're worth 140m - everything is leveraged and the squad has no value. There's no parachute payments - we've already leveraged that and spent it, there's no transfer payments, we've leveraged them all.

 

The only thing of value is the stadium and the training ground.

 

That's it.

[Pita]

48 minutes ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I reckon we are worth about 60-70m

If we are lucky

[STUHILL]

12 minutes ago, wurmer said:

There's no way we're worth 140m - everything is leveraged and the squad has no value. There's no parachute payments - we've already leveraged that and spent it, there's no transfer payments, we've leveraged them all.

 

The only thing of value is the stadium and the training ground.

 

That's it.

...and our future potential, which has already been demonstrated to be possible during our recent successes. 

 

Potential is usually why people buy a club. 

 

[Drew Peacock]

We can all guess a valuation, but Charlie Methven’s experience and knowledge is worth listening to. As has been mentioned above, his educated guess is a much lower figure and can be heard directly from him speaking on the latest BSLB podcast, which is a fascinating listen.

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I reckon we are worth about 60-70m

No way, maybe next yeah with massive overheads if we were stuck in league one.

 

Wrexham were valued at £350m in January as a mid table championship club. 

[Ric Flair]

People do realise that Methven is quite likely able to get an accurate valuation based on his contacts in the game and associates with CitiGroup who are leading on the sale?

[Gamble92]

Wonder how much the KPFC lot will defend King Power when they won't even let us play at the stadium 

[Jattdogg]

We are worth whatever top and a potential new owner can agree on. That doesn't help but the devil is in the details (of which none of us know the full scale of the bollox we are in).

 

What we can likely guess on is that whatever Top wants, won't be as close to what he actually gets.

 

He has to accept a big loss IMO otherwise he will bankrupt us and himself even more.

[Corky]

18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

People do realise that Methven is quite likely able to get an accurate valuation based on his contacts in the game and associates with CitiGroup who are leading on the sale?

Sorry mate, would rather get my facts from Facebook.

[CruzNoir]

It’s understandable as to why people would get conflicted on this when you’ve got people like Charlie giving a good well constructed knowledgeable account of the situation on BLSB’s

 

And then a Club owner of 20+ years in Darrah saying completely the opposite almost 

 

Naturally that’s going to cause confusion I guess when both of them are in far better positions to have a more knowledgeable opinion on it, yet being so wildly different to eachother 

Edited 4 hours ago by CruzNoir

[Stadt]

35 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

People do realise that Methven is quite likely able to get an accurate valuation based on his contacts in the game and associates with CitiGroup who are leading on the sale?

Errrm and would he be talking to citbank just for clicks??? And he doesn’t even have a season ticket?? 💙🦊 

[Vlad the Fox]

34 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

Wonder how much the KPFC lot will defend King Power when they won't even let us play at the stadium 

"It's alright. The women used to play at Burton you know."

[Chelmofox]

41 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

People do realise that Methven is quite likely able to get an accurate valuation based on his contacts in the game and associates with CitiGroup who are leading on the sale?

Valuations are largely based on how a buyer and seller wishes to structure a deal. Those NDAd won’t be discussing anything with Methven, so his ideas will be based on his knowledge and heresay. He’s probably bang on, but might be well out. 
 

I’ve been involved in several buyouts of technology companies and each was structured differently. The thing to remember is the buyer holds all the cards in a situation like LCFC . Buyers can structure deals based on revenue or profitability over several years, knowing full well targets cannot be met. Or they can buy outright in cash and try and leverage the opportunity immediately if they think there is one. A smart buyer will dangle a carrot, but aim to pay as little as possible. 

[CloudFox]

1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

No way, maybe next yeah with massive overheads if we were stuck in league one.

 

Wrexham were valued at £350m in January as a mid table championship club. 

Wrexham isn't a good comparison. Regardless of history and "size", they have created a huge, global brand, particularly visible in the States. They have a TV show and huge commercial value, as evidenced by the type of sponsorship deals they've managed to make.

 

Wrexham are a completely different beast. We'd have to look at a Sheffield Wednesday or the like for a similar valuation nowadays anyway, I think.

[Ric Flair]

23 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Valuations are largely based on how a buyer and seller wishes to structure a deal. Those NDAd won’t be discussing anything with Methven, so his ideas will be based on his knowledge and heresay. He’s probably bang on, but might be well out. 
 

I’ve been involved in several buyouts of technology companies and each was structured differently. The thing to remember is the buyer holds all the cards in a situation like LCFC . Buyers can structure deals based on revenue or profitability over several years, knowing full well targets cannot be met. Or they can buy outright in cash and try and leverage the opportunity immediately if they think there is one. A smart buyer will dangle a carrot, but aim to pay as little as possible. 

Yes 100%, he won't know the real important info but there'll be a sales deck valuation range that he's likely to get a steer on. 

 

I think we will go for way more than he says but the threat of administration can't be that car down the line as the numbers don't compute past this season.

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

People do realise that Methven is quite likely able to get an accurate valuation based on his contacts in the game and associates with CitiGroup who are leading on the sale?

Source 

[Steve Earle]

Lost me at Meffin I’m afraid.

[Trav Le Bleu]

 

Like anyone on TalkS**te knows anything!

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Gamble92 said:

Wonder how much the KPFC lot will defend King Power when they won't even let us play at the stadium 

It'll be renamed the HC Stadium.

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, hackneyfox said:

Believing anything on Talkshite will lead you down so many rabbit holes.

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