crisp packet Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 That was awful . 10-10 in possibly the easiest group ever! Plus points vardy didn't get sent off after being booked ? That's it .He was dross didn't look same player . Roll on sat now vards has had his warm up . Game passed him by.
adam Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Woy should have picked albrighton or dyer if he wanted a winger . They would of been a far better bet.
lgfualol Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Honestly if I never saw an England game again it wouldn't be that bad.
wardyfox86 Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Result yes, performance and set up, no. You've not really tried any alternatives in terms of approach - so, you'll go into next summer still playing as a collection of 11 players, passing and passing and passing, but the likes of Spain, France, Germany, Italy will be more disciplined than Estonia or Lithuania, you won't be able to control the game, you won't know an alternative because you've not tried it, and it'll be the traditional quarter-final exit once more. Rinse and repeat... and we all come back
Mike Oxlong Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Wonder what the England TV rights are worth. I'm going with a packet of cheesy wotsits
orangecity23 Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 I don't understand why England persist with 4-3-3, we've been playing it for a while, and I don't see how it suits the squad at all. We have no really good wingers, so we just end up shoving strikers like Vardy or Welbeck out wide, or put midfielders like Oxlade Chamberlain or Lallana there. Then we play one central striker, which means a slow player like Kane or Rooney being isolated. I'd like to see the 3-4-1-2 that we used last season - England have plenty of fullbacks like Walker, or Baines, who seem to be better going forward than defending, plus a wing back role might actually suit James Milner, the world's most defensive winger. It would mean that players like Sterling, Lallana or Barkley could play "in the hole", and it means 2 strikers, allowing us to fit in a pacy forward like Sturridge, Walcottt, Vardy or Welbeck up front alongside the undroppable Rooney. Surely it's worth a go over the tedious dross we play at the moment.
foxfanazer Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Honestly if I never saw an England game again it wouldn't be that bad.This. I actually don't enjoy us scoring as it just papers over the cracks and allows ITV to wheel out the same shitty things in commentary
RowlattsFox Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Poor from hodgson and poor from vardy. We'll see how we go in the friendlies.
Corky Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Moment of the night was Jonjo Shelvey almost reviving the Zaire defending of a free-kick from 1974.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 HARRY KANE HARRY KANE HARRY FVCKING CAME COME ON LADS WANK INTO THE POT SOME MORE I ****ing hate our national team and its wankathon
yorkie1999 Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Trouble is when we need a counter attacking game against the likes of Spain woy won't pick players like vardy who can play that style, but instead try to play the slow build up game and we'll get passed off the park.
johnny the fox Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 I'm happy ...Jamie didn't get injured... all good.
Dan Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Sadly nowhere near good enough. Still think he isn't played to his strengths but he should be doing better than that.
fuchsntf Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Vardy, best foul of the night... No complaints over Kane or Vardy not their game, these games, usually midfield players score. Chamberlain, poor night. Henderson/delph . No my choice Barclay/Lallana. Milner or Shelvey...Shelvey.Though a fit Carrick would be my first choice. Walcott and Sturridge if fit with Rooney are the front 3. Vardy Townsend and Kane impact subs. Clyne, Shaw..FBs Cahill, Stones CBs. 2nd half tonight England lost shape and momentum. fazit..The group was too easy, but unlike past decades, England made it look easy. Again, even new young players have the skill, unlike international peers, dont give their all in concentration and discipline. Played to much in the center, and since Beckham we have nobody who can consistently cross a ball, unless shaw keeps fit he can cross well. 4 big friendlies, mean nothing whether we win or lose big. Vardy imo should be in the Euro Squad, next year the teams will not lay so deep, then impact sub. If he has a non eventfull end of season, no place for him.
Corky Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 He just looked completely stifled. No snarling, no aggression. It was a world away from club performances. If everyone's fit he's behind Rooney, Walcott, Sturridge, Welbeck and Kane. Then you've got Berahino and Ings before we get to Sterling, Lallana, Oxlade-Chamberlain who all play in and around the strikers. Will be very difficult to make the squad next year.
Mike Oxlong Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Might buy Mrs O the England squad calendar for Christmas
Always Next Year Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 So f-----g boring it almost sent me to sleep, so slow to get the ball forward, and when they did it was all about everybody trying to make a name for themselves, Kane and the likes. Vardy must feel so out of place, they don't know how to play him it at all, to many greedy players. 30 odd players now been given a run out and still playing the same sh-t style France,Germany, Spain and the likes must be hoping they play us at some stage.
Collymore Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Vardy was the pits tonight. He'd be more effective versus Spain, Italy, Argentina, Brazil etc...... I just don't think teams like San Marino and Lithuania utilise his capabilities..... Saying this he really looks uninterested to say the least. I think LCFC and Vardy just work- they're made for each other.
Leicesterpool Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Wasn't the most exciting England performance I've ever seen, Vardy didn't really fit in much as we'd like tonight. Maybe not his fault, the formation was probably wrong for him and for two or three others. A wins a win and it's 10/10 but for some reason I do fear us up against the likes of France, Germany and Holland who were facing next, unlike previous years I don't think this is our best team to take a tournament.
Izzy Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Woy is vewy vewy pwowd of the team. We won the gwoup and we're off to Fwance. Its all gwavy..
Ozwin Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Only good in a counter attacking formation. His strengths are completely nullified in a possession based game, even more so when he's plonked on the wing.
urban.spaceman Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 Disappointed for him tonight. Seemed to be excluded out on the wing - I'm pretty sure he didn't actually touch the ball in the first 15 minutes of the second half until Kane was taken off. Butland probably had more touches than him! I hope this inspires him to carry on his brilliant form for us in the next month to make him absolutely undroppable. Hodgson better start getting his system sorted out and start playing players in the right bloody positions!
inckley fox Posted 12 October 2015 Posted 12 October 2015 The question, I suppose, is whether that game did anything to help us prepare for the next tournament. Friendlies and qualifiers against weaker opposition, as we already know, tell us very little about what will happen in the games that matter. This, of course, is the reason why Rooney's record is such a red herring. However it'd be a reasonable question to ask the manager why it is that one of 2015's, and this season's top scorers in the EPL - a far higher level of competition than this - has gone through a game against opposition that would struggle in our third tier, without a shot on goal. It seems too easy an explanation to keep putting this down to the lack of quality among our ranks, and would seem to say more about the way we try out alternatives to the tried, tested formula, than it does about players who deliver the goods week in, week out at a higher level. If we go into another competition and Rooney or whoever else ends up misfiring on his own up front against quality opposition, will we honestly be able to say we'd given everybody else a fair crack at the whip?
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