Ranieri gets stay of execution till end of season after talks

[Bob Weasel Fox]

10 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Has Claudio changed?

 

Have the players changed?

This is the real question isn't it

 

perhaps a bit of both?

 

nobody is blameless in all this

 

Ranieri certainly isn't and in fairness has admitted his mistakes painfully lots of times

 

have the players owned up to being shit and making mistakes? Does Claudio's team tactics include sending them out there to make basic errors and play like shitty cvnts? 

 

Definately think all parties should accept their own portiion of blame

[Guest Danny Clender]

5 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

The ringleaders amongst the workforce, football works slightly differently though because of contracts and transfer windows but if you give power to the players by sacking Claudio, and letting them decide how they want to train and who their boss is then we are already relegated if not this season then next.

 

I'm not saying doesn't deserve to go but start sacking managers on the players say so is an incredible dangerous thing to do.

I know we all say football is different, but I still believe the nuts and bolts of psychology, democracy and civilisation within any work space is the same.

You're right, as an owner, you'd firstly sack the ringleaders and then if that didn't work, the manager would go next, if you were really serious.

The owners here have stated, whether we believe it fully or not, they stand by Ranieri until the end of the season. 

So that must mean he has to drop the "ringleaders" to solve his crisis. 

Once they are out of the way, Ranieri will have a limited amount of time to prove he's right.

If the results don't turn with the "ringleaders" out of the way, he will go. 

My morales are completely in favour of sticking with Ranieri and I agree with that.

However I do not agree with relegation, so, with that in mind that's where the test of will comes in.

This is my last chance with Ranieri, drop the problem players and do it your way, if that don't work, thanks and goodbye. 

We have 4 games to see how that pans out.

After that, the club needs to work out how this happened and make serious changes. 

[ozleicester]

7 minutes ago, Callabinho said:

Our football club is doomed. The love developed for Ranieri has helped him keep his job. 

 

The man is incompetent...these lads have pulled of miracles without him and I my opinion last season was largely down to them, not him.

 

we won't pick up another point all season, it seems the owners are the only people standing behind Ranieri because I know for a fact that other people are not.

 

Dark days lay ahead. 

If last season was largely down to the players... surely the same applies this year?

[foxinsocks]

Ok so ranieri can stay  (forever? ).... but he has to change.... he needs to ask if his methods and his decisions (like letting way the psychologist go ) are right

He needs to pick those with confidence. Now.

 

For under performers he needs to set out what he wants to see from them.

 

Vardy needs to work on revising his game now he is 30.... that will take time and effort and focus (...he and yoko have alot going on)

We need change.... it starts with claudio

 

[Mark 'expert' Lawrenson]

4 minutes ago, Callabinho said:

Our football club is doomed. The love developed for Ranieri has helped him keep his job. 

 

The man is incompetent...these lads have pulled of miracles without him and I my opinion last season was largely down to them, not him.

 

we won't pick up another point all season, it seems the owners are the only people standing behind Ranieri because I know for a fact that other people are not.

 

Dark days lay ahead. 

I do agree mostly with what you say but Claudio does not send the players out to not score for 10+ hours, that fact in itself is a sad indictment on the players, ok CR seems to be lacking tactically but he's not responsible for players making ridiculous mistakes, if it's the players who won it last year then it's the players fault this year, where's their personal pride? 

Players have to stand up and be counted.

[TheUltimateWinner]

I'll admit that when we went through our bad run under Pearson I was quite vocal that I wanted him gone.

 

Thankfully and rightfully I had egg on my face. But comparing now and then, it's hard to find similarities. The team are playing no where near the expected level of performance, come match day they just get walked over, there's no confidence, no creativity and no defensive solidity.

 

The annoying thing is that we're in a better position now than two years ago, we don't need to make up ground to catch up anyone, we're already out the relegation. But this time round, you know we won't pick up points and its other teams that are going to overtake us.

 

I place the blame with the players for their poor performances, I blame Ranieri for his stubbornness and stupid decisions, I blame our recruitment team for not strengthening over TWO windows when we needed reinforcements in both and now I place blame on the owners for not making the only thing we can change now which would give us a chance for survival.

[RowlattsFox]

Whether you like the manager or not, the players need to show professional pride. They'll be the ones remembered as the players that got relegated as champions. 

 

I dislike my manager at times but have to still do my job. 

 

Easy to give days days off when you're winning, there'd be outcry on here if the players had a few days off after there latest battering. 

 

 

[splinterdream]

Who's fault is this slump and who should take the fall? -

the players? It's quite clear there is a Mahrez, Vardy, Slimani rift with other factions possibly involved, drop Vardy now, get rid of any poison at the end of the season.

the manager? Ranieri' fault lies with allowing it to get to this, I can't see any way back from this, what can Ranieri do to get them playing again? He should have been moved out or sideways. There's failings on all sides here.

[davieG]

...and to add, the loyalty seemingly shown to last years winners is not just down to stubbornness but a reflection on the fact he has little choice because of the woeful recruitment particularly in defence and mid-field.

[FoxFossil]

25 minutes ago, Callabinho said:

Our football club is doomed. The love developed for Ranieri has helped him keep his job. 

 

The man is incompetent...these lads have pulled of miracles without him and I my opinion last season was largely down to them, not him.

 

we won't pick up another point all season, it seems the owners are the only people standing behind Ranieri because I know for a fact that other people are not.

 

Dark days lay ahead. 

This is not a car crash, this is Jumbo Jet crash from 30,000 feet all on fire. In a year we will sit near bottom of the Championship, in the smoldering wreckage, and the owners walk off into the sunset.

[shade]

the players are mentally weak, and their confidence is in tatters. I don't really believe that they aren't trying, or they don't care. they're just crippled by anxiety, you can almost see them sweating when they get the ball and it's too late now for that to magically correct itself. Ranieri had made mistakes, definitely, but not enough for us to be this low. 

 

the only solution i can see now is, like the derby game, change it up completely and let the players who aren't psychologically broken have a crack, if things improve great, if they don't then it can't be any worse than the string of 2 and 3 nil defeats were witnessing at the moment. I don't take any pleasure in saying this, but these players, this season at least, are no longer 'lions' or 'fighters', they're nervous wrecks and I don't think they can just snap out of it.

[Callabinho]

Oz and Mark your points are valid! 

 

I look at it like this though, if you have a leader/manager whom you have completely lost faith in, it's very hard to pick yourself up. Yes some of these players are on stupid wages but forget money for a second, just because you're paid so much money doesn't mean you still aren't human.

 

the lack of effort isn't just down to one player, it's the whole group, once you've lost the respect of the man leading you, you stop putting in that extra 10% as a team that made all of the difference the year previous. Players like Albrighton, Slimani and Okazaki naturally work hard, because it's part of their game, others not so much you can see that the players concentration has gone, mainly because something is pre-occupying them and in this case it's Claudio and his bizarre tactics.

 

It's too much of a coincidence to leave him totally blameless, it's happened to him at every club, Claudio's strength have always been lifting people who aren't in a good place at the time he takes over, everything is a bit different about him, however when his philosophy goes stale, he never recovers.

 

the rot has well and truly set in, and you can't just sit there and shout at the players just because we've all paid so many hundreds for season tickets, if they have lost belief in what the manager is doing then they won't be able to function together. And anyway I buy a season ticket because I support Leicester city not Jamie Vardy or Danny Drinkwater. 

 

We now play in fear, and as a result can't focus on our game. We fear that we are going to make mistakes, and when we do we then fear that we're going to concede a goal, and when that happens heads drop because we fear that we are going to lose again.

 

this is the job of the manager to sort out, he has to lift the group and make them believe again, but if the lads don't believe in what he is saying, it won't happen....the political side of football exists too, and it seems we have fallen victim to it...but because the likes of Savage and Lineker say he should have a job for life, he stays.

 

We need someone to wake the lads up, someone to look up to, they need a leader, not a boss.

[Kitchandro]

33 minutes ago, Callabinho said:

 

The man is incompetent...these lads have pulled of miracles without him and I my opinion last season was largely down to them, not him.

 

 

The levels of delusion on this forum are astounding. It's so obvious that some of you can't come to terms with  the fact that players you elevated to god like status have let you down so badly, so you need to scapegoat Ranieri.

 

Very convenient that these players are responsible ALONE for winning the title yet Ranieri is responsible ALONE for cocking things up. And also that they are able to organise themselves for a 38 game season to great effect yet now they cannot organise their feet enough to play a forward pass. But that's not their fault either, right?

 

Face it, these pricks have let you down and your reaction is of a child throwing a tantrum when they're told Father Christmas isn't real.

 

Guess what, the heroes aren't real, they don't give a shit about you and they're adults behaving like spoilt teenagers.

 

Stop absolving them of blame, they're the ones playing and they aren't even doing the fvcking basics.

 

In short, you sound like an idiot.

[ealingfox]

You can call the players backstabbing twats for alienating the manager who brought them their greatest success,  but if Ranieri has marginalised and alienated the backroom staff and coaching staff that brought him his, how is he any better?

[Kitchandro]

28 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

 

After reading that, I now lay all the blame on his door. 

Oh right. Cos you were so supportive of him before!

[Guest Col city fan]

1 minute ago, Kitchandro said:

 

The levels of delusion on this forum are astounding. It's so obvious that some of you can't come to terms with  the fact that players you elevated to god like status have let you down so badly, so you need to scapegoat Ranieri.

 

Very convenient that these players are responsible ALONE for winning the title yet Ranieri is responsible ALONE for cocking things. And also that they are able to organise themselves for a 38 game season to great effect yet now they cannot organise their feet enough to play a forward pass. But that's not their fault either, right?

 

Face it, these pricks have let you down and your reaction is of a child throwing a tantrum when they're told Father Christmas isn't real.

 

Guess what, the heroes aren't real, they don't give a shit about you and they're adults behaving like spoilt teenagers.

 

Stop absolving them of blame, they're the ones playing and they aren't even doing the fvcking basics.

 

In short, you sound like an idiot.

Nah....too much.

I agree about the players don't give a shite about us fans..that's true, they don't.

But I suspect they think Ranieri is a tit. Whatever happened last season, I suspect that's how they are now thinking. So they don't want to play for the manager anymore.

Where they are turds is that they don't even want to play for themselves anymore.

[Kitchandro]

1 minute ago, Col city fan said:

Nah....too much.

I agree about the players don't give a shite about us fans..that's true, they don't.

But I suspect they think Ranieri is a tit. Whatever happened last season, I suspect that's how they are now thinking. So they don't want to play for the manager anymore.

Where they are turds is that they don't even want to play for themselves anymore.

What's too much?

[Jon the Hat]

There is a little hope here.  The line is drawn, Claudio is staying, and I guess he has free reign to drop whoever., which perhaps he didn't feel he had before the weekend.  I expect this message to be drilled in over the next couple of games, and potentially they players finally realise there are ****ed if they go down.  The club should also tell them they will not be sold, they will play in whichever league they are in next season.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

6 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

You can call the players backstabbing twats for alienating the manager who brought them their greatest success,  but if Ranieri has marginalised the backroom staff and coaching staff that brought him his, how is he any better?

Don't think either side are covering themselves in glory over this

 

Ranieri has clearly made mistakes, the players just haven't even tried have they?

 

disgusting shambles

[dannythefox]

Owners must not be concerned about going down then. If only it was that easy to come back up, probably thinking of the 100m for promotion again. Only problem is ranieri won't be the right man to get us up.

[Fox92]

3 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Players need to shut the fvck up and get on with playing PROPERLY!.

 

THEY are the ones letting this club down, these players were able to win the league last year, this year they cant even win a game, thats not down to the manager. 

 

If they are pi$$ed off, they need to sort it out..but NOT by playing like a bunch of 6 year olds who cant string 5 passes together, IF the dressing room is lost, it STILL comes back to the PLAYERS! You dont stop playing... you dont stop trying, you show some pride and responsibility to your fans and get your ar$e out there and play up to your ability.

 

If you are a player who is unhappy and not trying... then WALK AWAY, dont turn up on a Saturday and put in a half shift that is pi$$ poor and embarrassing for you and our club.

 

Play properly.. or FVCK OFF!

Yes it is down to the manager.

 

I'm fed up of seeing "it's the players". They do take blame, yes, but ultimately they are managed. I've said all season there is a lack of effort, desire and motivation..... if the manager cannot motivate them then there is an underlying problem.

 

The players have performed poorly but then the manager has constantly picked the same team every week. What's that say to them? The likes of Morgan and Vardy can't seem to do anything wrong to get dropped. The manager also sets up the team, sets up set pieces (which we are very bad at), selects the style of play....

 

This huge drop from top of the league to relegation battle is down to the manager and any other manager would have been sacked by now for this huge drop.

[The Guvnor]

Once respect for the Manager has gone that is it no sticking plaster will help we are fcuked, same thing happened with Chelsea and Mourinho. Blind loyalty on this occasion looks like a one way ticket to the Championship and the greatest fcuk up by reigning champions in the modern era.

[Manwell Pablo]

22 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

 

The levels of delusion on this forum are astounding. It's so obvious that some of you can't come to terms with  the fact that players you elevated to god like status have let you down so badly, so you need to scapegoat Ranieri.

 

Very convenient that these players are responsible ALONE for winning the title yet Ranieri is responsible ALONE for cocking things up. And also that they are able to organise themselves for a 38 game season to great effect yet now they cannot organise their feet enough to play a forward pass. But that's not their fault either, right?

 

Face it, these pricks have let you down and your reaction is of a child throwing a tantrum when they're told Father Christmas isn't real.

 

Guess what, the heroes aren't real, they don't give a shit about you and they're adults behaving like spoilt teenagers.

 

Stop absolving them of blame, they're the ones playing and they aren't even doing the fvcking basics.

 

In short, you sound like an idiot.

 

Can someone give Alanis Morissette a call, looks like we've got another line for the chorus of one of her songs.

 

 

[Marvin]

It would be a huge shame to see Ranieri sacked but getting relegated would be even worse.     Even if Craig Shakespear became caretaker I would suddenly feel quite confident about our survival.

 

I do buy into the one season wonder theory for Ranieri.

 

if ever we needed a fresh start it is now.

[Ricey]

If he is ignoring the advice of the coaching staff and sports science team then that is madness and would explain why we aren't anywhere near as fit this season as we were last season. He needs to trust the experts that made us the fittest and most injury free team for two seasons running.