Nigel Pearson working for KP again

[Koke]

Half our senior players need to be moved on. I'm tired of the stranglehold they have on our club. 

[4everfox]

33 minutes ago, brucey said:

Jonathan Northcroft (one of the most ITK LCFC journos) reported the day after Ranieri was sacked, that the dressing room wanted Pearson back, or Shakespeare as their second choice if that was not possible.

 

Just send em to OHL if they miss him so much

 

Edit: Wouldn't be at all surprised to see one or two of his boys actually playing for OHL one day in the next year or so if Nige is still there. Would not shock me at all if someone like Matty James or Ben Hamer was there next season in fact. 

Edited 8 May 2018 by 4everfox

[lifted*fox]

5 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

I just don't think it'd work, unless he got the band back together. I can't help but want to see him back in a Leicester tracksuit when I see those pictures though, I love the bloke. 

 

I get that people questioned his persona, but the flat-out vitriol towards him from our own fanbase is ****ing pathetic. I get that fans from other clubs can mistakenly think he's a cvnt, based on interviews, but Leicester fans should know better than that. He wasn't perfect, but he did an outstanding job and it's widely known that he wasn't as he appeared on camera. Anyone defending the fan rightly told to FOAD deserves to, themselves. If I'm not mistaken, we were 3-1 down against Liverpool. Think of that.

 

Imagine of Top and Vichai thought "we need to go forwards, not backwards" and decided not to reappoint him in 2011.

 

From experience, you can use someone's opinion of Nigel Pearson's work at Leicester as a measurement of their intelligence. Anyone that thinks Cambiasso "did the tactics" in the great escape should be locked up for their own safety.

 

If he ever did come back, I'd be delighted but there are surely better candidates now.

 

I generally agree that people who can't see the difference between Pearson's on-show and behind closed doors personas are most likely of limited brain power; especially with all the talk from people who've said that he's a very pragmatic and likeable guy.

 

He always protected his players, the club and sometimes himself where necessary. 

 

There's this weird obsession in this country though with people liking jokers, banter-merchants who play up to the camera / interviewer and makes quips and funnies all the time. It's weird because those clowns generally are full of hot-air and don't achieve anything of note anyway. We've had that kind of manager as well and look how that worked out. 

 

Yes - to a degree he started to perhaps, lose the plot a little towards the end. But it was all blown out of proportion and who wouldn't feel the pressure in that position for the first time. 

 

That man had done more than enough for this club to not deserve a roasting from some neanderthal in the crowd that night - telling him to FOAD was OTT yes, but **** it - absolutely deserved; just not at that exact moment. But hey, the mask slipped - and it slips for us all occasionally when backed up against the wall. 

 

As I've said many times now - he was loved by the players and his staff and until his son ****ed shit up he was loved by the owners as well. I couldn't give a single flying **** about what other supporters or journalists thought of him - it matters not. 

 

What he did here deserves no belittlement - he took us from the lowest of the low back to the top and kept us there, despite a few bumps along the way. It's outstanding.

 

I do not doubt that if he got the full backroom team back together then he'd come in and sort this mess out without doubt. People saying shit like 'we'd still have Morgan in defense, etc' - well that's just bullshit. Pearson proved many times that he was willing to make big decisions to benefit the team and I'm sure he'd do it again - but he'd do it in a way which the players understood and could get on board with. 

 

All we hear is 'confusion, confusion, confusion' - we're 'confused by Ranieri's methods' we're 'confused by Puel's methods and team selections'. 

 

I don't remember hearing too much of this 'confusion' during Pearson's time. He told it how it was and everyone knew where they stood. 

 

We should be so lucky to find ourselves in a similar situation to that again before we inevitably sleepwalk back down into the Championship because of 'confusion'. 

[Matt]

4 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

 

I do my best not to initiate any conversation with you because, lol, you're impossible - BUT that sentence right there is exactly why Pearson did so well in the job. 

 

He kept people in line, communicated properly and everyone understood their job and why they were included / not included on the team sheet. 

 

Does it seem weird to you that the players were actively asking for Pearson to come back? If he did, they wouldn't be ruling anything - it'd be back to Pearson running the show.

 

Maybe, just maybe they miss the discipline and structure that he put in place.

Nail on head for me.

[Corky]

43 minutes ago, brucey said:

Jonathan Northcroft (one of the most ITK LCFC journos) reported the day after Ranieri was sacked, that the dressing room wanted Pearson back, or Shakespeare as their second choice if that was not possible.

 

Must be nice to work at a place where you can pretty much choose who you want as manager.

[GH1]

Pearson deserves great credit for what he did for our club, promotions and the great escape (ie getting us out of the shit that he got us in) and he is responsible for an excellent team spirit and work on some of the signings that became the football miracle.

 

But lets be about right , it was Ranieri that delivered the title

 

Anyway Pearson can't come back until he can control what comes out of his mouth and his unpredictable behaviour - so not soon

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

21 hours ago, funkyrobot said:

Average Manager? For us? He’s up there as one of the BEST LCFC managers of modern times. He did a brilliant job with us. He played an instrumental role in building a team that eventually won the league and I guess for Pearson haters like you it’s best to ignore this fantastic period in our recent history. 

 Believe what you will.

[funkyrobot]

5 minutes ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said:

 Believe what you will.

Yeh. Belief backed up by actual achievements (winning league 1, winning the championship, staying in the premiership in the first season back) as well as an outstanding overall win ratio figure. 

[lifted*fox]

20 minutes ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said:

 Believe what you will.

 

A serious question - what do you think of the period where we sailed up from League One and into the PL in a short space of time, all under his guidance?

 

You've always posted with a pretty harsh anti-Pearson agenda - what exactly has made you that way? What are the crucial moments during his tenure, despite all of the success he bought to us, that have shaped your image of him in this way?

 

What exactly did he do that ****ed you off so badly?

 

Your opinion is in the minority and 819 rep points for nearly 10,000 posts tells it's own story but surely when you're swimming up stream all of the time on this particular matter you must wonder why.  

 

 

[Great Boos Up]

I may have blue tinted blinkers but I'd crawl a mile over broken glass with my c0<k out just to w@nk over his white trainers.

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said:

 Believe what you will.

Thankfully, him being a huge success as our manager is something that exists as an objective fact and is not dependent on your belief. If you don't like him as a person for whatever reason, fine, but denying his achievements as our manager is irrational and defies all logic

[adam]

I'd rather have MON back

[Steve_Walsh5]

20 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

 

A serious question - what do you think of the period where we sailed up from League One and into the PL in a short space of time, all under his guidance?

 

You've always posted with a pretty harsh anti-Pearson agenda - what exactly has made you that way? What are the crucial moments during his tenure, despite all of the success he bought to us, that have shaped your image of him in this way?

 

What exactly did he do that ****ed you off so badly?

 

Your opinion is in the minority and 819 rep points for nearly 10,000 posts tells it's own story but surely when you're swimming up stream all of the time on this particular matter you must wonder why.  

 

 

DT doesn’t like Nigel Pearson as he is a “loud mouth slob” who had the audacity to react to someone shouting obscenities at him. 

 

I’d love to see how DT would have reacted if someone was shouting abuse at his precious Cilla Black. 

[shade]

can someone get a simple, nigel: yes or no poll on the go please?

[Stinkenzo]

Vichai & Top are with Pearson right this moment.

[Tuna]

8 minutes ago, Walkers said:

Vichai & Top are with Pearson right this moment.

Leuven 1-0 down at half time.

[urban.spaceman]

OMG. 

 

IT'S HAPPENING. 

[Sharpe's Fox]

After thinking about it I think my favorite Nige was ‘Bearded Derby Nige’

 

 

Although early days Nige when he was rocking the sweatshirt rather than the tracksuit will always have a place in my heart

 

[WigstonWanderer]

1 hour ago, Great Boos Up said:

I may have blue tinted blinkers but I'd crawl a mile over broken glass with my c0<k out just to w@nk over his white trainers.

I’m sure he’d be suitably grateful

[CosbehFox]

Love him to bits but he’s not the same bloke he was (there’s a sad reason for that).  He was ideal for us. We do need a bloke with similar qualities as a builder and ability as a man motivator. Personally think Fulham’s manager fits that - he’s had to deal with an utter arsehole in between him and board level too. 

[coolhandfox]

No, time to move on, need a strong manager like him, but with a better tactical brain. 

[inckley fox]

5 hours ago, Donut said:

Does Pearson have a role in our downward trajectory now?

 

Genuine question, not banter or trying to annoy people.

 

It's a good question. I suppose if we credit him for the potential of his signings and their potential as a unit, then we also have to point out that over time - and without the guidance of that specific management team - some of those characters had the potential to lose focus.

 

In fact, many of the players who've been involved in our post-2016 slumps were also involved in the early 2013 downturn (Vardy, Morgan, James, King, Drinkwater etc.) and even more were involved in the 2014-15 mid-season collapse. So they have it within them to suffer prolonged periods of horrendous form.

 

Alternatively, you could argue that this applies to any set of players anywhere and that poor signings made things worse along the way. And obviously how a side does in the aftermath of a manager's departure, when most of the set-up is still in place, is always going to tell you more about how well systems were established by that manager, than the same club 18 months, 2 years, 3 years later.

 

I remember one football magazine, years ago, looked at managers' records and in doing so it presented a graph which included (distinguished by colour) the two seasons before their arrival and the two which followed it, to show both what they were inheriting and what they left behind. If such a thing were replicated for Pearson it would show him to be something quite exceptional in the modern game; his impact on the club would be greater by this measure than almost anyone else's in the game. But then again, the same table might also make Micky Adams look like a disaster, and Sven a bit of a hero.

 

So we should take these arguments about legacy with a pinch of salt. In Pearson's case (as with O'Neill's, to a far lesser extent) the main argument in favour of them having left the club in a tremendously health state, is how well we did immediately after their exit with the players they left behind, and how things fell away as time went by.

[NorthfieldsFox]

2 hours ago, Great Boos Up said:

I may have blue tinted blinkers but I'd crawl a mile over broken glass with my c0<k out just to w@nk over his white trainers.

You need to see a shrink 

[Bluearmyfox28]

12 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

No, time to move on, need a strong manager like him, but with a better tactical brain. 

Benitez...

[inckley fox]

5 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

No, time to move on, need a strong manager like him, but with a better tactical brain. 

I'm never sure what people mean by a good tactical brain. Surely it just means playing the right system to get a result, by which measure Pearson did fine. My appreciation of the complexities of tactics isn't strong enough to judge a manager's merits in this area, and when pundits try to point out a stroke of tactical brilliance it often doesn't seem to be anything exceptional. It's easier for fans to judge things on outcomes than it is on the high-level stuff, which plenty of ex-players and a good few managers don't seem to be too clear on either.

 

He certainly wasn't one-dimensional. He had a very different style of play in his first stint to his second on account of the better resources available to him. He switched systems quite frequently, sometimes to great effect (e.g. the 3-5-2 in 2015). I wonder whether people see him as a quite brutish, old-school Englishman and therefore not the sort of bespectacled foreign scholar who we tend to see as a tactician.

 

I know Mahrez praised the tactical improvement after Ranieri replaced Pearson, but plenty of others have questioned how good an organiser or match-prep manager Claudio was. Equally, we've seen plenty of managers who were supposed to be very tactically astute, but who aren't very good at winning matches. Pleat, Taylor, Levein, Sousa, Eriksson and Puel were all supposed tacticians. O'Neill, Adams and Pearson weren't.