UniFox21 Posted 29 May 2018 Share Posted 29 May 2018 12 minutes ago, knitro said: Here's that Villa Talk ITK - top of page 710 https://www.villatalk.com/topic/4026-jack-grealish/?page=710 Actually quite an interesting read through the last 2 pages. A fair few seem quite accepting a move to us would help his career and be quite good for him, whilst admittedly hating it. Seems a similar situation with us and mahrez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 29 May 2018 Share Posted 29 May 2018 31 minutes ago, StevieB said: I reckon King and James aren't in the first team plans for next season. were losing Mahrez and Puel doesn't seem keen on Albrighton, I can see us getting Maddison, Grealish and Roberts in, and It will be nice if the Barkley rumour is true as well Barkley's not coming here for too many reasons to list. I think we could well sign two out the three of Maddison, Grealish and Roberts but we won't want all three IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 29 May 2018 Share Posted 29 May 2018 1 hour ago, knitro said: Here's that Villa Talk ITK - top of page 710 https://www.villatalk.com/topic/4026-jack-grealish/?page=710 Quote spiezels Reserve Team Full Members 157 647 posts Report post Posted 7 hours ago 7 hours ago, bobzy said: I just don’t see what he gains from going to a club like Leicester, as a Villa fan. Albrighton got more wages, champs league footy and a premier league winners medal out of it. Cant blame the lads ambition if he does leave, as hard as it would be for the club, fans and the lad. Alby still goes to Villa games, so his decision won’t have been made lightly. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 29 May 2018 Share Posted 29 May 2018 Cvnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 15 hours ago, mod hero said: Massive drop in standards from Vicente. Iborra doesn’t score over head kicks in the champions league final though ay Suzie? PS people, not all. But some have likened me to a young Lee Philpott. Just have a think about that. X I used to have a thing about Philpot. Imagine that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 15 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: But Suzie, you wouldn't say no to lots of young men.... Pfft you know me too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 3 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said: I used to have a thing about Philpot. Imagine that Me too actually ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Oxlong Posted 30 May 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 30 May 2018 3 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said: I used to have a thing about Philpot. Imagine that 17 minutes ago, Katy said: Me too actually ? Hi, it’s Lee here 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 3 hours ago, Suzie the Fox said: I used to have a thing about Philpot. Imagine that Until he ,allegedly, nicked your handbag? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 9 hours ago, Babylon said: No player has gone for close to that, so not sure that's standard. That's a jump of about £5m on what was slowly becoming standard for the top goal talents like Wood and Assombol-what's-his face. Sure but they have not perhaps gone to cash rich clubs. Circa 20 million will be the quoted haggling starting fee because we have cash. If if you think he’ll go for less that’s cool but I think he is a different level of gravy to Wood and what’s his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 1 hour ago, Swan Lesta said: Sure but they have not perhaps gone to cash rich clubs. Circa 20 million will be the quoted haggling starting fee because we have cash. If if you think he’ll go for less that’s cool but I think he is a different level of gravy to Wood and what’s his face. I have no idea what he'll go for, that's dictated by many different things. I was just surprised by the sort of "£20m yeah that's about right" posts on here. I just look at what he's done before, his end product this season and that seems a lot considering what the market was only very recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 I'm baffled how highly rated this kid is given he's a humungous bellend and his end product is every bit as bad as Demarai Gray's. What part of his game has made the footballing public think he's the next big thing? This season at Championship level in a strong team he's scored and assisted a pitiful amount. What's the explanation there, I don't get it? I know there's more to goals and assists but our scouting team work on many key attributes when looking for new players, I'd love to know what boxes he's ticked so far? The price tag is much more than a potential gamble ala Gray, you'd want a player who's outgrown his level and destined to hit the ground running in the PL for £20-25m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 26 minutes ago, Babylon said: I have no idea what he'll go for, that's dictated by many different things. I was just surprised by the sort of "£20m yeah that's about right" posts on here. I just look at what he's done before, his end product this season and that seems a lot considering what the market was only very recently. 19 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I'm baffled how highly rated this kid is given he's a humungous bellend and his end product is every bit as bad as Demarai Gray's. What part of his game has made the footballing public think he's the next big thing? This season at Championship level in a strong team he's scored and assisted a pitiful amount. What's the explanation there, I don't get it? I know there's more to goals and assists but our scouting team work on many key attributes when looking for new players, I'd love to know what boxes he's ticked so far? The price tag is much more than a potential gamble ala Gray, you'd want a player who's outgrown his level and destined to hit the ground running in the PL for £20-25m. And somehow being touted as the best player in the Championship this season... Not sure how that equates either in all honesty but being definitely touted as different gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 do we need more youth is the question? are we perhaps going for the Monaco model with transfer i.e. buy them young, develop them and sell them on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayFox Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 Decent read and comments, I think he’s a cockwomble but would be a decent acquisition..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 38 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: do we need more youth is the question? are we perhaps going for the Monaco model with transfer i.e. buy them young, develop them and sell them on? Don't think we need to become a selling club like that, as doing well financially. I suspect we are going down this route because we can't compete with the big boys in terms of buying a top "finished article" player at £60-70million, so instead we are buying younger players that seem on a path to becoming a top player. It's an exciting strategy in terms of potential, but not without its risks, as experience and maturity still has its value in success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 Interesting that Maddison was in the Championship Team of the Year and there was no Grealish. Perhaps Maddison > Grealish in terms of pricetag/value too. I wouldn't say no to both but I do think Roberts will join, so perhaps just one of these are more likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 Hanging with Ben Chilwell too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 16 minutes ago, chapero82 said: Hanging with Ben Chilwell too "Fvck all but the flag" how pleasant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifted*fox Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 I reckon this will happen tbh. All signs looking likely especially as he's spending time with Gray and Chilwell. Interesting read on the Villa forum - quite a humble bunch on there tbh and most agree that a move to us would be a step up with benefits for his England chances. Again - yes, the lad comes across as a bit of a bell but I reckon he'd mature here under the right guidance; as he has started to with Terry taking him under his wing. Some of our fans seem to have a problem with taking on younger players with a bright spark about them - quick to jump on them for 'attitude problems' and not having end-product. Players like Gray, Chilwell, Grealish, etc - they all have 'something' about them - it just needs the right environment for it to develop, much like Vardy did with us. I'd rather we were signing players like this and giving it a go - we're all too quick here to jump on their backs. I'd welcome him tbf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifted*fox Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 11 minutes ago, Tuna said: "Fvck all but the flag" how pleasant. The designers of that brand (twin brothers from Canada) released that line as a nod to their Canadian heritage apparently. We're not really going to start judging a players attitude by the slogans on their t-shirts, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 (edited) Don't underestimate the pull of going to play at the same club as all your mates. I'm not convinced as the stats suggest he doesn't have a great end product but if he joins then I'll support him 100%. However, there are players our fans seem to instantly love and those they seem to instantly hate. Doesn't take a psychic to work out that Grealish will probably go straight into that latter category if he doesn't kill it from the word go. Seems like a lot of people are judging for him for being a bit of a flashy bastard but let's be honest, most of us would probably act like a bit of a knob head if we earned what he does at his age. I definitely would have Edited 30 May 2018 by Paddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 1 hour ago, NewquayFox said: Decent read and comments, I think he’s a cockwomble but would be a decent acquisition..... I would tend to agree with the fact that he seems VERY easy to dislike but to be fair, most people I've spoken to who have no affiliation with Leicester, feel the exact same way about Vardy. Players like that tend to be loved by their fans and despised by everyone else..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lifted*fox Posted 30 May 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 30 May 2018 4 minutes ago, Paddy. said: However, there are players our fans seem to instantly love and those they seem to instantly hate. Doesn't take a psychic to work out that Grealish will probably go straight into that latter category if he doesn't kill it from the word go. This is something I can't get my head around. We seem to have a large section of our fans who can't seem to get on with young players who have confidence in themselves - as if it's a bad thing. They also can't seem to overlook / understand that sometimes young people (in general) make mistakes and occasionally do stupid stuff like use 'laughing gas' (harmless, for the most part, btw). Yes, yes - paid a lot of money, got a lot of influence, should know better - shouldn't we all? I'd love to know how many of the 'squeaky-clean' posters of FT, so quick to call people out are actually free of misdemeanour and mistakes themselves. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 30 May 2018 Share Posted 30 May 2018 We did experiment with a 4-1-4-1 last season as well as the 4-2-3-1. Think Grealish is ideal for Puel because he can play either as a number 8 in the first formation or as a 10 behind the striker in the 2nd formation. Many times under Puel last season It was obvious we were lacking a player in the midfield who can go direct at the defence and make things happen either with their dribbling ability or looking for sharp little one twos. Think he would be massive for us if we get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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