yorkie1999 Posted 5 January 2020 Share Posted 5 January 2020 On 03/01/2020 at 18:00, Fox92 said: Trouble is with Maguire, and paying that sort of money for any player, you expect a great great player..... he isn't that and never will be. Van Dijk cost Liverpool £75m but he is class and without him Liverpool struggle, he's the type of player that makes the other centre back look decent. I think Carragher described him as a "big brother" type which is correct. I saw it in Huth and I see it in Evans here. I think Man Utd fans thought they were getting their Van Dijk, or their new Vidic/Ferdinand/Stam but Maguire isn't on their level. They still need an actual World Class centre back, which we've come to learn that they always have (I mentioned the likes of Vidic and Stam there). Man Utd obviously don’t scout players properly then. Surely if you’re gonna hand over 80 million quid, you’d do a bit of research to see if the player is any good and fits your needs. Their scouts only needed to read a few posts on here to realise he wasn’t exactly a speedboat when it came to turning. It’s like they look at the price and say he must be good if that’s how much money they want...and that’s it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 5 January 2020 Share Posted 5 January 2020 I think Maguire will look snd play better in a better team. If we still had Maguire we would still be second in the table snd he would get plaudits (with Evans) on our excellent defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 5 January 2020 Author Share Posted 5 January 2020 Maguire has zero protection for his midfield, no senior/fit left back and a team trying to play higher up the pitch against lower opposition when they can’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 5 January 2020 Share Posted 5 January 2020 Let's not forget Man United have a piss-poor manager and when they get rid of him and get a proper gaffer in they and Maguire may start looking a whole lot better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 5 January 2020 Author Share Posted 5 January 2020 5 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Maguire is a big part of that high line problem tho, nothing to do with him being a bad footballer he just doesn’t have the natural pace to play it. We couldn’t do it very well with him and got caught out time after time, Soyuncu comes in and there’s no problem. Little coincidence there Correct hence we told most Man U fans the case. As Ealing says Man U employ the worst manager in the league and as soon as he’s off, Maguire will have a manager who make him look far better. In fact Mourinho would have been perfect fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 5 January 2020 Share Posted 5 January 2020 38 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Maguire is a big part of that high line problem tho, nothing to do with him being a bad footballer he just doesn’t have the natural pace to play it. We couldn’t do it very well with him and got caught out time after time, Soyuncu comes in and there’s no problem. Little coincidence there Helps that Brendan has got our midfield on point and in particular our midfield press. It’s our effective closing down on the opposition defenders and midfielders that allows us to play a high line. If we didn’t press properly, even soyuncu would get bypassed by through balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 5 January 2020 Share Posted 5 January 2020 There's been half a dozen times or more this season our high line has caught us out, nature of the beast obviously, but more often than not cags has managed to get back to put pressure on/make a challenge on the player that has got through, Harry would be a good few metres off when cags manages to apply pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 (edited) Edited 6 January 2020 by Dahnsouff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 On 02/01/2020 at 12:00, AKCJ said: EIGHTY MILLION POUNDS. 3 x the value of our title squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 Evans is slow but you never see him caught (or very rarely at least). Maguire’s reaction times are slow which is exacerbated by his lack of pace. Maguire is a top half standard centreback with some extreme strengths and extreme weaknesses; he’s not good enough to completely alter a system around to play to his strengths either. £80m ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 Maguire has the reaction time of a three toed sloth and the turning circle of an oil tanker. He's a good centre half, because he's a unit who's reasonably good with his feet. Pull him out of position though and it's easy to play round him. The trouble he has currently is, as already pointed out, Utd are playing too high which leaves him exposed, particularly as his midfield offer so little protection. He would look far better for us this year in our current setup but I would think we're all glad that we didn't get to witness it with the emergence of Soyuncu. Also because I genuinely believe he would slow us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 On 05/01/2020 at 13:11, Koke said: I think Maguire will look snd play better in a better team. If we still had Maguire we would still be second in the table snd he would get plaudits (with Evans) on our excellent defence. Fair point, but I can think of a number of times Soyuncu pace has got us out of trouble. I think Soyuncu and Evans, covers more bases then Evans and Maguire However I'd would have like to see them in a 3! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HybridFox Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 6 minutes ago, brucey said: Fair play to them that's excellent PR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 14 minutes ago, brucey said: They definitely, definitely mean us. So proud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 1 hour ago, TK95 said: Fair play to them that's excellent PR Southampton are often quite good on social media. However I find them to be not the most helpful when it comes to the press. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phube Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 I can’t work out why “Welcome to Liverpool” is muted forever?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sianist Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 Just now, Phube said: I can’t work out why “Welcome to Liverpool” is muted forever?! For a few years Liverpool brought their best players again and again 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 34 minutes ago, Phube said: I can’t work out why “Welcome to Liverpool” is muted forever?! Lambert Lallana Mane Van Dijk Clyne Lovren Have I missed anyone?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phube Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 56 minutes ago, Sianist said: For a few years Liverpool brought their best players again and again 21 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Lambert Lallana Mane Van Dijk Clyne Lovren Have I missed anyone?? Aaaahhh, I was trying to think of a Liverpool pasting at Anfield for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los dedos Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sianist Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 10 minutes ago, los dedos said: Wait, have I overslept? ... since which decade were Gillingham a Premier League team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 7 minutes ago, Sianist said: Wait, have I overslept? ... since which decade were Gillingham a Premier League team where does he say 'league games' ???? btw, that 2-0 loss we took was a v comprehensive win as i recall ……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandFox Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 3 of those games happened in May 2018.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OadbyBlue Posted 6 January 2020 Share Posted 6 January 2020 24 minutes ago, los dedos said: I swear I remember their fan base hating him at the time though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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