yorkie1999 Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 9 minutes ago, FoxNotFox said: Can you (literally) afford not to? You'd have one helluva turnover rate of signings otherwise. How many players hit the deck running? They all take time to settle in. We're still a work in progress and trial and error in signings, formation and tactics are part of that process. I say that not in defence of any particular player as some signings don't work out. It's not all about immediate results (but there is a balanced to be struck) think back only 3 or 4 seasons, Man City were prone to shiteness. It took even the great Pep several seasons of perseverance to get the right players to play his kind of football. I think we have and that's been our problem. When you pay the sort of money we've been paying for players, you expect them to hit the ground running, when you pay the sort of money we paid for our title winning side, then you expect to give them time to bed in.
Langston Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 1 hour ago, weller54 said: Don't think anyone is 'celebrating' Silva failing with us? Personally, I hope he proves his doubters wrong (which I'm one of), and I'll be the first to say that I got my judgement wrong. Wonder if anyone thought that Kante was going to fail after his first few appearances for us?.. Wasn't he played out wide by Ranieri in his debut against Bury in the EFL Cup? Kante was played out of position but he was still by far the best player on the park, as anyone that went will attest to. He was brilliant.
elvisfmcfly Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 1 hour ago, NaijaFox said: Can’t afford to bed players in at the expense of the team and results. Well it’s not like results and especially performances have been amazing,so it’s a good chance to give more minutes to those who haven’t had them,doubtful we ll get top 10 or be relegated so not much to play for.
Dickov22 Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 On 25/11/2018 at 09:37, zealot said: You're too scared to fail Charl91 and Dickov22! ...this is okay with a creative player! You can't expect humans playing games to be 100% accurate especially in creative roles. It's getting on a players back for no good reason (people would do this about Mahrez and it would really piss me off). I'd rather a creative player gave the ball away 7 out of 10 times if it meant 3 perfect balls created goals for the team! Totally disagree. I never used to mind Mahrez losing the ball because it was usually in the oppositon’s half when he was trying to create something. Equally, I don’t particularly rate a player like Mendy who passes the ball 5 yards and has strong pass completion rates. Iborra gives it away in ALL areas though. He’s just too laid back and casual for me. What we need is a central midfielder who can do it all. A Danny Drinkwater type. He never used to lose the ball much and equally, he didn’t just play safe 5 yard passes.
lgfualol Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 Drinkwater definitely turned into a 5 yard safe passer after the title win. Showed his limitations when teams started sitting back.
HighPeakFox Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 3 hours ago, weller54 said: Wonder if anyone thought that Kante was going to fail after his first few appearances for us?.. Wasn't he played out wide by Ranieri in his debut against Bury in the EFL Cup? Exactly, you understand my point
sacreblueits442 Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 .. strange how we frowned at getting Ross Barkley, now look at him. Just needed a new environment and someone who believed in him!
Clever Fox Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 6 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: .. strange how we frowned at getting Ross Barkley, now look at him. Just needed a new environment and someone who believed in him! I would have taken him all they long. He has the skill, pace and tenacity we lack.
StriderHiryu Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 8 hours ago, Langston said: Kante was played out of position but he was still by far the best player on the park, as anyone that went will attest to. He was brilliant. N'golo Kante is literally the only player I can think of in LCFC history that never had a bad game for us. His sample size might be small at around 40 games, but I can't remember him not getting at least an 8/10 . Maybe Arsenal at home when we got beat 2-5? But even then he was one our better players on the day. Against Liverpool when we lost he was again decent and against Arsenal when we lost 1-2 he was man of the match by miles. Every player can be forgiven the occasional off day... even Messi has them. But Kante for Leicester never did! At the time as week after week went by you kept thinking to yourself... "have we just signed one of the best defensive midfielders in Premier league history? We're Leicester City... surely not?" But we had! As you say even when Ranieri put him on the wing in the early days (!) just to give him game time, he looked good and made an impact on the game! If you had to rank Kante as a signing he probably be 11/10. Immediate impact, improved everyone in the team, won us the title and sold for 4x the money we paid for him. If only we'd been able to keep him a little longer! Signings like that probably come along once in 20 years. We can count ourselves fortunate that when ours came along we maximised the impact he could have. There are many other clubs that have had great players for a season but that have never won anything. Suarez at Liverpool, Andy Cole at Newcastle, Kevin Phillips at Sunderland, etc.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 November 2018 Posted 26 November 2018 20 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said: N'golo Kante is literally the only player I can think of in LCFC history that never had a bad game for us. His sample size might be small at around 40 games, but I can't remember him not getting at least an 8/10 . Maybe Arsenal at home when we got beat 2-5? But even then he was one our better players on the day. Against Liverpool when we lost he was again decent and against Arsenal when we lost 1-2 he was man of the match by miles. Every player can be forgiven the occasional off day... even Messi has them. But Kante for Leicester never did! At the time as week after week went by you kept thinking to yourself... "have we just signed one of the best defensive midfielders in Premier league history? We're Leicester City... surely not?" But we had! As you say even when Ranieri put him on the wing in the early days (!) just to give him game time, he looked good and made an impact on the game! If you had to rank Kante as a signing he probably be 11/10. Immediate impact, improved everyone in the team, won us the title and sold for 4x the money we paid for him. If only we'd been able to keep him a little longer! Signings like that probably come along once in 20 years. We can count ourselves fortunate that when ours came along we maximised the impact he could have. There are many other clubs that have had great players for a season but that have never won anything. Suarez at Liverpool, Andy Cole at Newcastle, Kevin Phillips at Sunderland, etc. Great post. Agree 11/10
foxile5 Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 Must've been embarrassed tonight. Very little impact on the flow of a shite house cup game. At twenty nine and Euros winner I expected so much more from him. To be taken off and have made no mark - unforgivable.
baldeagle Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 Looked so rusty and was chasing shadows most of the time or should I say jogging round aimlessly
funkyrobot Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 3 minutes ago, foxile5 said: Must've been embarrassed tonight. Very little impact on the flow of a shite house cup game. At twenty nine and Euros winner I expected so much more from him. To be taken off and have made no mark - unforgivable. Yeh it was probably his last chance and unfortunately for him he blew it.
KFS Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 1 minute ago, baldeagle said: Looked so rusty and was chasing shadows most of the time or should I say jogging round aimlessly He’s looked like that in every game I’ve seen him for us. We all thought he needed a pre-season, it could be bigger than that; maybe he’s just not up to the pace..
foxile5 Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 Just now, Stevosevic said: Doesn't look good for him does it. He can pass sideways. When the ball gets to him he slows it exponentially.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 I'd like to see him get a loan, look at how well all wrote off Mendy and he's been the biggest surprise this season. I think there's a good player in there, but the complexity of his move certainly hasn't helped him and with the amount of players we have in that position it's hard to get a few appearances under your belt to settle into a role because we have plenty of good replacements.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 He'll be on his way in January. Never performed here. Whilst the shirt at Palace away thing got a strong reaction at the time, I felt it said a lot about his mentality. Clearly felt a strong connection with his last club and not sure he ever wanted to leave for anything other than more money. I think he underestimated just what a battle English football can be. Walking in front of your travelling fans after a pathetic performance to give your shirt to the fan of your last club wasn't really a demonstration of that win at all costs mentality a combative central midfielder needs to thrive in this country. The pace of the game and the size of the battle were too much for him. There's a decent player in there somewhere but both parties will look upon the move with regret.
StriderHiryu Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 He'll be loaned back to Sporting in January I reckon. Not every transfer can work out, but what a massive disapointment. At least Slimani had a few good games for us and scored some important goals. Silva's done literally nothing.
Richard Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 He looked like a player who’s barely played in 12 months... think everything may have affected him mentally too
lgfualol Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 Didnt think he was that bad but everything he does just seems so half hearted somehow.
Suzie the Fox Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 He wasn't horrible he just doesn't seem to create or really offer anything to the team. Its really sad what happened to him and maybe unfair to write him off when he hasn't had much game time. But when he does get a chance, i don't feel he does enough (or more than the others in that position to warrant more time.) For me its a real shame as i was super happy when we looking at signing him.
Ric Flair Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 18 months loan to Sporting, followed by a pitiful permanent transfer like £5m afterwards. Slimani will command even less. I cant help but feel this is punishment for daring to win the league and the riches that followed. Now we need a Mahrez or Vardy to push the value for money balance back in our favour as theres many more who look on the north side an'all.
st albans fox Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: 18 months loan to Sporting, followed by a pitiful permanent transfer like £5m afterwards. Slimani will command even less. I cant help but feel this is punishment for daring to win the league and the riches that followed. Now we need a Mahrez or Vardy to push the value for money balance back in our favour as theres many more who look on the north side an'all. 5m for a 31 year old? you win some and you lose some ...... we lost on this big time but then we screwed Chelsea over on drinky at the same time ......
Vestan Pance Posted 27 November 2018 Posted 27 November 2018 I watched him closely tonight and I just find it strange how a player of his supposed ability could do so little in the game. He's always 2 yards behind the game and his positional sense seems non existent. All in all he's a really strange case, but I feel he's blown his chance here and needs to move on for everyones benefit. Sad really.
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