Guest Col city fan Posted 16 January 2019 Posted 16 January 2019 8 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Won 4, drawn 2, lost 5 at home. 1.27 points per game, which would translate to a 48 point season if that form was across all games (away form, W5, D2, L4 - translates to a 58 point season if across all games). So, yes it is just a few bad results. We're doing better away than at home, and I think a major part of that is how utterly toxic our fans are, but home form is hardly terrible, it's standard midtable fare. We've played good in spells, poor in other spells. Just like every other midtable club. If the fans have had enough of being a midtable club with all that that entails then they need to get a grip or **** off and support someone like man city, and I don't really care which they do.
Tuna Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 1/3 to be next Leicester manager on Betfair and Paddy Power.
HoustonFox Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 4 hours ago, The Doctor said: He was never at Cardiff and he was sacked by Reading after 6 months and 23 games, having lost 11 of them and taken them down to 21st in the Championship. Swansea
z-layrex Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 3 hours ago, The Doctor said: Won 4, drawn 2, lost 5 at home. 1.27 points per game, which would translate to a 48 point season if that form was across all games (away form, W5, D2, L4 - translates to a 58 point season if across all games). So, yes it is just a few bad results. We're doing better away than at home, and I think a major part of that is how utterly toxic our fans are, but home form is hardly terrible, it's standard midtable fare. We've played good in spells, poor in other spells. Just like every other midtable club. If the fans have had enough of being a midtable club with all that that entails then they need to get a grip or **** off and support someone like man city, and I don't really care which they do. 100 times this, our fanbase can actually get in the sea.
dayday Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 5 hours ago, Tuna said: 1/3 to be next Leicester manager on Betfair and Paddy Power. Mugs or clever money ?
ultrafox Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 9 hours ago, AjcW said: There’s no chance Brendan leaves Celtic mid season Sorry..why not? Hes not on to a winner this season as Rangers and maybe Kilmarnock could burst his Premiership winning streak. Why wouldnt he quit while he's ahead with a clean streak of premiership titles under his belt. It wouldn't be a popular move with Celtic fans but when has that ever been taken in consideration. (apart from when we had our MARTIN DON'T GO campaign in the 90's) ?
foxinsocks Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 He's failed in the pl. Spl is pub football. It's a no from me.
Monsell1976 Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 Didn’t vote, wouldn’t say yes, as don’t see him as a massive improvement for the money it would cost, but if puel was sack I wouldn’t say no way
ozleicester Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 17 hours ago, The Doctor said: Which is exactly what was said when Nigel Pearson said it 7 years ago this week: In fact, any post now or then with the manager name removed would be indistinguishable. Plus ça change... To be fair... 7 years later we are League 1 Champions, Championship Champions and Premier League champions, Champions League 1/4 finalists and a strong mid to high table premier league team.
volpeazzurro Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 13 hours ago, Col city fan said: Liverpool really should have won the league under Rogers and Celtic have dominated all the time he’s been up in Scotland. What are you talking about? Yes they should of but didn't and when his golden boy Suarez went it went to rats. Shouldn't really fail to dominate in Scotland with his set up should he really but he's made poor signings like at Liverpool and it's now starting to tell. The so called lesser lights with vastly inferior funding are catching him up. He's being found out.
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 1 hour ago, foxinsocks said: He's failed in the pl. Spl is pub football. It's a no from me. Hahaha hows he failed in the SPL? He's pretty much won everything every year, which is to be expected but he's hardly failed.
shade Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: Hahaha hows he failed in the SPL? He's pretty much won everything every year, which is to be expected but he's hardly failed. pl
foxinsocks Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 Just now, Ric Flair said: Hahaha hows he failed in the SPL? He's pretty much won everything every year, which is to be expected but he's hardly failed. Failed in the pl. .. liverpool only moved fwd after he left. I agree he has won all he could in spl..but i discount it
Langston Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 1 hour ago, ozleicester said: To be fair... 7 years later we are League 1 Champions, Championship Champions and Premier League champions, Champions League 1/4 finalists and a strong mid to high table premier league team. We won League One three years before he said that...
Lionator Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 34 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Failed in the pl. .. liverpool only moved fwd after he left. I agree he has won all he could in spl..but i discount it They were literally one slip from winning the league under him. Hardly a failure.
The Doctor Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 1 hour ago, ozleicester said: To be fair... 7 years later we are League 1 Champions, Championship Champions and Premier League champions, Champions League 1/4 finalists and a strong mid to high table premier league team. We won league one 2 1/2 years earlier but the following success doesn't mean he was wrong - that was said after a 2-1 defeat to Barnsley at home - starting lineup that day: Schmeichel, Peltier, Mills, Tunchev, Konchesky, King, Wellens, Danns, Dyer, Gallagher, Nugent (Beckford came on off the bench). Less than half of those were then involved in the promotion in 13/14, let alone the 15/16 season - in fact with Drinkwater on loan at Barnsley then, our opponents had as many of our 15/16 title winning first XI as we did. He was right, our fans had delusions of grandeur and thought we should walk the league because Sven wasted a load of money. He needed time to fix that. 7 hours ago, HoustonFox said: Swansea Fair he did improve them, but that's really the only job I'd consider to be a success worth considering (Celtic in a league with no rangers, it should be nigh on impossible to not win the league)
ClaphamFox Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 It's all immaterial anyway because Marco Bielsa is going to be our next manager
ozleicester Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 23 minutes ago, The Doctor said: We won league one 2 1/2 years earlier but the following success doesn't mean he was wrong - that was said after a 2-1 defeat to Barnsley at home - starting lineup that day: Schmeichel, Peltier, Mills, Tunchev, Konchesky, King, Wellens, Danns, Dyer, Gallagher, Nugent (Beckford came on off the bench). Less than half of those were then involved in the promotion in 13/14, let alone the 15/16 season - in fact with Drinkwater on loan at Barnsley then, our opponents had as many of our 15/16 title winning first XI as we did. He was right, our fans had delusions of grandeur and thought we should walk the league because Sven wasted a load of money. He needed time to fix that. Fair he did improve them, but that's really the only job I'd consider to be a success worth considering (Celtic in a league with no rangers, it should be nigh on impossible to not win the league) We had every right to expect more from our team... he and they were playing crap and this was another of his usual media rants when the pressure got to him.
RoyFox Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 I still remember going to Swansea (in the Championship) we were completely dominated and passed off the park. We couldn’t get the ball off them. He’ll get us playing good football, but at a faster tempo.
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 1 hour ago, shade said: pl Sorry misread that. He didnt fail at Swansea and his stint at Liverpool could be argued both ways. He took them as close to winning the title as anyone previously had in 25 years. The issue we have with managers that are established and experienced is, there is going to be some sort of blemish against them to even consider coming here. Unless we go for a complete unknown or a untested progressive manager like Marco Rose, then theres going to be fans say they're shit. Management is the most precarious job in football, theres so many facets that have to be on your side to succeed and this isn't an excuse as this is the case for Puel as well who is getting dogs abuse when all of it isn't his fault. Rodgers ticks a lot of boxes with how we want to run the club long term. Some may argue he's achieved less than Puel due to the poor quality of Scotland and not winning a trophy in the PL but I'd take him over a lot of similar banded managers like Wagner, Howe, Dyche etc. Dont forget our board arent the most flamboyant at their scouting of new managers, all these exotic managers doing bits in inferior leagues in Europe, China and South America are highly unlikely to be considered by our board. Rodgers would be my choice right now if he would come, I think he'd get us 7th straight off the bat.
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 1 hour ago, foxinsocks said: Failed in the pl. .. liverpool only moved fwd after he left. I agree he has won all he could in spl..but i discount it Opinions, I personally think what he did at Liverpool was a decent job after the shit that they'd had between Benitez leaving and him arriving.
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 17 January 2019 Posted 17 January 2019 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Sorry misread that. He didnt fail at Swansea and his stint at Liverpool could be argued both ways. He took them as close to winning the title as anyone previously had in 25 years. The issue we have with managers that are established and experienced is, there is going to be some sort of blemish against them to even consider coming here. Unless we go for a complete unknown or a untested progressive manager like Marco Rose, then theres going to be fans say they're shit. Management is the most precarious job in football, theres so many facets that have to be on your side to succeed and this isn't an excuse as this is the case for Puel as well who is getting dogs abuse when all of it isn't his fault. Rodgers ticks a lot of boxes with how we want to run the club long term. Some may argue he's achieved less than Puel due to the poor quality of Scotland and not winning a trophy in the PL but I'd take him over a lot of similar banded managers like Wagner, Howe, Dyche etc. Dont forget our board arent the most flamboyant at their scouting of new managers, all these exotic managers doing bits in inferior leagues in Europe, China and South America are highly unlikely to be considered by our board. Rodgers would be my choice right now if he would come, I think he'd get us 7th straight off the bat. So more or less the same as we are now?
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